Michael Flynn charged

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Yes.

Well, I mean, kudos to you for admitting that on a public forum, I suppose...

 

[Upchurch]

I suppose you’re going to ask me for evidence that the FBI and State are working against the Trump administration?

"State"?

The FBI investigates crimes. They work against criminals. Trump only needs to worry if he's done anything illegal.

So, yeah, in that sense, they maybe they are.

I have no evidence for you, we’re just going to go with our gut that they are.

"Faith". The word you're looking for is "faith".

 

[Trebuchet]

Flynn won't be getting a pardon. He and Trump have thrown each other under the bus.

Manafort, maybe.

BTW, "unmasking" refers to Americans recorded in conversations with foreign nationals under FISA. Ameriicans caught up in that aren't supposed to be revealed unless they've committed a crime. That doesn't mean they can lie to the FBI about it.

ETA, from the article:

"Minimization procedures" limit the collection of information concerning United States persons by protecting their identities and requiring a court order to retain the communications for longer than 72 hours. The communications can be retained without court order if there is evidence of a crime. Identification of a US person, known as "unmasking", may also be authorized if an agency believes it is necessary in order to understand the intelligence or believes that the person was committing a crime.[11]

 

[logger]

"Faith". The word you're looking for is "faith".

I also have faith that this question will be answered.

Question being was State and the FBI compromised or were certain people working against the administration.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

... I have no evidence for you, we’re just going to go with our gut that they are.

Sure, why should this time be any different than all the others ?

 

[logger]

Sure, why should this time be any different than all the others ?

Well, many times that’s how investigations start. Like the current Russian collusion one.

 

[logger]

Well, I mean, kudos to you for admitting that on a public forum, I suppose...

I find it fascinating that people on the left cannot possibly see the strategy in filling the State Department and the FBI with their minions. Lucky for the rank and file the leadership understands it.

Even on a skeptics forum.

 

[Dr. Keith]

You say that, and you back it up with evidence, but that's not how this works anymore. Make up some off the wall ****, then you'll be closer.

Ten points for plague311.

Would have been twenty, but you weren't clear about the followup of just ignoring when your **** has been exposed.

 

[phiwum]

Doubt it.


Never said there wasn’t, why don’t you list those limitations?

I agree. I don't see that Trump couldn't pardon Flynn.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

If Flynn's defense is, "They forced me to lie by asking me questions," I hope the judge gives him an extra year for that.

I remember a similar defense of Bill Clinton’s lies to a judge.

 

[WilliamSeger]

I remember a similar defense of Bill Clinton’s lies to a judge.

Okay, so Flynn's defense is, "They tricked me into lying by asking questions, and Bill Clinton did it, too?"

 

[phiwum]

I also have faith that this question will be answered.

Question being was State and the FBI compromised or were certain people working against the administration.

Surely, if the FBI believes that a crime has been committed by someone in the administration, it is their job to investigate.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Okay, so Flynn's defense is, "They tricked me into lying by asking questions, and Bill Clinton did it, too?"

To be clear, the excuse is equally pathetic in both cases.

 

[CapelDodger]

Doing a Downfall parody of Trump seems...I dunno. Unecessary?

I mean...wouldn't it just be Trumpertantrum's tweets as the subtitles?

It would take some arrangement, but in his own words is an excellent idea.

Trump did say something a few months ago on the Russia enquiry that put me in mind of Hitler's "We should never have let them cross the Oder!"

 

[CapelDodger]

Yeah, I don't think that even Trump is that stupid.

I doubt Flynn reached the conclusion that he couldn't get Trump to do it. Which suggests Mueller has stuff on him that Trump can't pardon.

 

[CapelDodger]

Yes.

Not all parts of the deep state are the same thing. All they have in common is that they are part of the deep state. This is how they try to confuse you.

 

[CapelDodger]

I kinda wonder what Fred Thompson would think of Trump.

I think bringing Fred Thompson and Trump to mind simultaneously is the most vicious thing I've ever seen done to the orange turd. Bravo.

 

[Trebuchet]

Fred Thompson is dead, and he's still smarter than Trump or Flynn.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

Latest Opening Arguments podcast had a “deep dive” into what the Flynn guilty plea may or may not signify.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Even though the Obama Administration no longer existed when Flynn lied to the FBI?

It's amazing how much secret influence liberals have over every part of the government. Not unlike the Jews in the early 20th century. Maybe some brave conservative will propose some kind of solution to this liberal problem.