Trans Women are not Women

[lobosrul5]

And yet it doesn't matter enough that drivers (riders?) are selected the same way as horse jockeys.

Its a pretty damn big deal in some motorsports. I've heard 1 kg is worth .03 seconds per lap on the average F1 track. Doesn't sound like much but thats just about 2 seconds over the course of a race per kilo. Most drivers are smaller than average and I've heard stories of them starving themselves leading up to a race weekend.

Their height also matters the higher the drivers head the more drag.
The heavier the car the less the drivers weight will impact performance, and that goes even more so if your mostly drafting. So its not too critical for NASCAR for example.

 

[rustypouch]

It's not unheard of to undergo major medical procedures for a performance edge. Don't you remember all of those runners who had their legs amputated so they could enjoy the same advantages as Oscar Pistorius?

It wouldn't surprise me if certain countries, particularly Russia and China, forced some athletes to do this. Something similar to East Germany in the 70s and 80s.

 

[cullennz]

And Robby Gordon is a nobody driver from a nobody racing class he invented so he had a chance of winning and he still loses

What he thinks can be taken with a grain of salt

 

[theprestige]

A few trans-women may feel empowered an gain confidence in their own situation

That would be delusional. A male athlete who competes against women to feel empowered and confident has even more serious problems than gender dysphoria.

 

[BobTheCoward]

As long as the sanctioning body is private, I don't care what they decide. That is for them to figure out.

 

[lobosrul5]

As long as the sanctioning body is private, I don't care what they decide. That is for them to figure out.

If you mean Olympic sports, then pretty much every country has a government or government sponsored/endorsed sanctioning.

 

[William Parcher]

BTW, today's breaking news is that Russia has been banned from the Winter Olympics because of drugging.

 

[BobTheCoward]

If you mean Olympic sports, then pretty much every country has a government or government sponsored/endorsed sanctioning.

The ioc and iwf are non government.

But if they are government, then my policy
Prescription is stop being part of government. That resolves this issue.

 

[lobosrul5]

The ioc and iwf are non government.

Most countries sanctioning bodies are though. The US is sort of an exception... but each sport has a sanctioning body that is officially recognized and endorsed to represent the USA on the world stage. So in a way they are.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Most countries sanctioning bodies are though. The US is sort of an exception... but each sport has a sanctioning body that is officially recognized and endorsed to represent the USA on the world stage. So in a way they are.

Then the solution to this problem is to scrap that system.

 

[cullennz]

BTW, today's breaking news is that Russia has been banned from the Winter Olympics because of drugging.

They can still compete though

They just cant do it waving a Russian flag

And when one of the top nations in the medal table says "Independent" I think 99% of people will just think "Russia did well this year"

 

[lobosrul5]

Then the solution to this problem is to scrap that system.

Just get rid of international sports competitions? OK.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Just get rid of international sports competitions? OK.

Get rid of any Government involvement.

 

[cullennz]

Get rid of any Government involvement.

A lot of countries don't have a zillion multi-national corporates to fund the sports.

 

[lobosrul5]

A lot of countries don't have a zillion multi-national corporates to fund the sports.

It even goes beyond that. I mean from what I can read, little if any government funds go into US Olympic sports. But we still organize tryouts, regulate the sport, form teams etc. Without that, then what? What would stop there being multiple US Womens Soccer teams? Is the first one to claim it, the one??

 

[BobTheCoward]

A lot of countries don't have a zillion multi-national corporates to fund the sports.

The US also needs to scrap incorporation and limited liability.

 

[BobTheCoward]

It even goes beyond that. I mean from what I can read, little if any government funds go into US Olympic sports. But we still organize tryouts, regulate the sport, form teams etc. Without that, then what? What would stop there being multiple US Womens Soccer teams? Is the first one to claim it, the one??

It doesn't matter if there are multiple groups claiming to be the US team. It's fine.

 

[William Parcher]

They can still compete though

They just cant do it waving a Russian flag

And when one of the top nations in the medal table says "Independent" I think 99% of people will just think "Russia did well this year"

A person from Russia can compete if they test clean and they cannot represent a country. They compete as "neutral" (they aren't using the term "independent").

 

[Giz]

It doesn't matter if there are multiple groups claiming to be the US team. It's fine.

I think your version of the Olympics might be a little bloated and unwieldy.

I'd like you to run it though, as the Olympics are a bit of a bore.

 

[Doghouse Reilly]

QFT

We don't know. Right now to assert that they don't is simply an argument from incredulity. I have no opinion either way, but it is a mistake to underestimate the lengths to which people will go to achieve athletic success.