Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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Minoosh said:
I'm just guessing, but I don't think these international trips matter much to his base. Some softer Trump supporters are peeling away, it seems. He so often manages to sound like either a boastful rube or a starstruck fan of fascist regimes.
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Why is this suddenly a downside for his supporters?
 
The Don said:
Not explicitly, not even President Trump is that much of a polemicist. He may however flatter his host and make some comments about strong leadership and assertive action in the face of such a challenge and bemoan the fact that the obstructive Democrats, liddle' Bob Corker, Crooked Hillary and the #Fakemedia are tying his hands back home.......
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Considering that he has no qualms about calling for death penalties or for the killing of families of terrorists, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he made a comment while over in the Philippines that appear to support the notion of extra-judicial killings of drug-related people (not necessarily criminals). I'd say he's less likely to make that kind of comment while in the US, but it's not beyond imagining either.

I guess it depends on how sweet the smoke is that Duterte blows up his ass. Even leaders who don't like him know that it serves them better to manipulate him.
 
TofuFighter said:
Considering that he has no qualms about calling for death penalties or for the killing of families of terrorists, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he made a comment while over in the Philippines that appear to support the notion of extra-judicial killings of drug-related people (not necessarily criminals). I'd say he's less likely to make that kind of comment while in the US, but it's not beyond imagining either.
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He has admired Dutere in the past. Also Kim Jong-un.
 
How can any country take President Trump seriously ? After weeks of bellicose rhetoric, he's now suggesting diplomacy:


US President Donald Trump has urged North Korea to "come to the table" and discuss giving up its nuclear weapons.

Striking a different tone from previous fiery rhetoric, he said he "hoped to God" he did not have to use the US military against Pyongyang.

Mr Trump was speaking at a press conference with his South Korean counterpart Moon Jae-in in Seoul, as part of his tour of Asia.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41896635

Which should be good news but how can anyone be sure that he's not going to revert to his original message ?
 
The Don said:
How can any country take President Trump seriously ? After weeks of bellicose rhetoric, he's now suggesting diplomacy:




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41896635

Which should be good news but how can anyone be sure that he's not going to revert to his original message ?
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Away from the egregious lickspittles and comfortable safety of the whitehouse and his golf resorts, I think reality begins to permeate his thoughts. Within weeks (days?) he’ll be calling for Armageddon again.
 
Minoosh said:
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Lord knows how his translators manage to get all that goop conveyed in Japanese or whatever the language du jour. I can picture a translator being tempted to edit Trump's words, because they make so little sense taken at face value. How do you translate that crap? Samurai nation should have shot down North Korea's missile. ...snip...
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I seriously do wonder. In English you can grab some sense from garbled and grammatically incorrect sentences - which is one of the reasons it has become the lingua franca of the world - but in many languages you can't. I wonder how many of the translators just say "random words" when they translate.
 
Darat said:
I seriously do wonder. In English you can grab some sense from garbled and grammatically incorrect sentences - which is one of the reasons it has become the lingua franca of the world - but in many languages you can't. I wonder how many of the translators just say "random words" when they translate.
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In Trumps case it's often "random sounds".
 
Argumemnon said:
Yeah but I mean someone who could actually get their hands on Trump for a few hours and either interview them in the proper setting or plant a probe into their brain and look into the problem.
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Aliens, and their famous probe of the other end. That's where most of Trump's thoughts come from anyhow.

Meanwhile, this morning he's talking about negotiating with North Korea. That'll turn off the base like nothing else.
 
"Something, something, um...nope...don't understand that bit...rhubarb...nonsense...noise..."
 
Tolls said:
"Something, something, um...nope...don't understand that bit...rhubarb...nonsense...noise..."
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I'd be amused to find that some international leaders consider Donald Trump a fine politician and great public speaker because the translators go from the original written versions of his speeches whenever his ramblings become unintelligible :)
 
Darat said:
I seriously do wonder. In English you can grab some sense from garbled and grammatically incorrect sentences - which is one of the reasons it has become the lingua franca of the world - but in many languages you can't. I wonder how many of the translators just say "random words" when they translate.
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That is a surprising glaim! Got a source on that?
 
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