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Michael Shermer vs. "alternative history" Hancock and Crandall

King of the Americas said:
I recall him qualifying that statement...
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Watch the video and quote him.

King of the Americas said:
Plato's statements have been well versed on previous pages.
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Plato didn't offer any date at all. In Plato's fable for discussion, it was Critias of Athens who proposed "I can recollect and recite enough of what was said by the priests, and brought hither by Solon" (from Egypt).

""Let me begin by observing, first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place"

....and, (Atlantis) when afterward sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of mud to voyagers sailing from hence to the ocean.

So Atlantis didn't sink 9,000 years ago did it? :)

Where did Solon say was impassable to sailors?
 
Porpoise of Life said:
And when people do watch the video and want to discuss specific points brought up in it, you'll dismiss their questions and try to reset your thread.
You did the exact same thing in your 'Jews founded Atlantis in Spain' thread.
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But, but that's the reason he's here - did you expect him to do otherwise?

He just reset the thread - he tried arguing 'evidence' got thoroughly shredded, and I suspect he will now go back to standard DDD, Demaind, Deny and Denigrate (the evidence)

Lets see...................chuckle
 
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*sigh* thesis work is exhausting...

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So, PP dating, I want original samples from originally placed stones, or I call bull butter results.

As for the Younger Dryas Flood...what impact on what kind of existing civilization DID it have according to modern archaeologists?
 
King of the Americas said:
*sigh* thesis work is exhausting...

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So, PP dating, I want original samples from originally placed stones, or I call bull butter results.
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Already asked before and rejected as irrelevant, 'or I call' is laughable as your opinion has no bearing on scientific matters which you clearly don't understand.

As for the Younger Dryas Flood...what impact on what kind of existing civilization DID it have according to modern archaeologists?
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No known existing civilizations - so the result was 'nothing'. It did change the climate which may have aided or not aided other groups in moving towards agriculture.
 
King of the Americas said:
*sigh* thesis work is exhausting...
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Yes. You have now realised , that Critias of Athens, said 9,000 year had past since the war ended and not when Atlantis "sank". This destroyed all your previous dating claims concerning Atlantis.

Don't forget to drop back in for a visit in the future, when you have a new hypothesis and supporting facts you can actually post. :)
 
King of the Americas said:
*sigh* thesis work is exhausting...

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So, PP dating, I want original samples from originally placed stones, or I call bull butter results.
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We know what you will do. You have already telegraphed your intentions by stating that disturbance and vandalism have affected every aspect of the Tiwanaku site; so you'll refuse to accept any date that may be obtained. But the carbon dating gives a range of dates in which activities were performed in the site by its residents; and you have seen what these are.

Your impossible conditions are intended to explain away the valid findings that have already been made, and to set arbitrary criteria enabling you to replace reality with whatever fantasy is churned out by the charlatans whose misdirection you have chosen to follow.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
You have my sympathy.
It would be so much easier if you could just submit a link to a YouTube video, along with a demand that the university watch it, followed by endless repetitions of that demand should anyone dare ask for clarification, summary or any actual supporting evidence.
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:thumbsup:
 
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Craig B said:
We know what you will do. You have already telegraphed your intentions by stating that disturbance and vandalism have affected every aspect of the Tiwanaku site; so you'll refuse to accept any date that may be obtained. But the carbon dating gives a range of dates in which activities were performed in the site by its residents; and you have seen what these are.

Your impossible conditions are intended to explain away the valid findings that have already been made, and to set arbitrary criteria enabling you to replace reality with whatever fantasy is churned out by the charlatans whose misdirection you have chosen to follow.
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That's sounds like the actions of someone who is trying to make their conclusions unfalsifiable.
 
Craig B said:
Your impossible conditions are intended to explain away the valid findings that have already been made, and to set arbitrary criteria enabling you to replace reality with whatever fantasy is churned out by the charlatans whose misdirection you have chosen to follow.
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SOP for conspiracy theorists.

See threads on 9/11, Apollo and the Shroud.
 
John Jones said:
That's sounds like the actions of someone who is trying to make their conclusions unfalsifiable.
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Yes and where he can set himself up as 'judge' and use DDD, demand evidence, deny evidence and denigrate evidence and sayer. A standard form of those who live beneath transportation structures.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
SOP for conspiracy theorists.
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Yep standard methodology, unfortunately he hasn't seemed to have grasped that we 'are on to him'. I guess he thought avoiding the thread for a few days would reset everything....lol
 
Hans said:
Already asked before and rejected as irrelevant, 'or I call' is laughable as your opinion has no bearing on scientific matters which you clearly don't understand.



No known existing civilizations - so the result was 'nothing'. It did change the climate which may have aided or not aided other groups in moving towards agriculture.
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I understand that occupations happen for generations after something is constructed. Dating its 'original' creation, in my opinion, would be a matter of finding a stone(s) that has not been disturbed, and dating the material directly under it. OR, one could date the mortar between two originally placed stones. Dating backfill(s) on or around disturbed sites would yield little.

'Nothing'...??

GT is direct evidence that a very advanced agricultural civilization DID indeed exist before or around the Younger Dryas.

In the video that began this thread, we see evidence OF agriculture, and then a decline into the hunter gatherer state...
 
Matthew Ellard said:
Yes. You have now realised , that Critias of Athens, said 9,000 year had past since the war ended and not when Atlantis "sank". This destroyed all your previous dating claims concerning Atlantis.

Don't forget to drop back in for a visit in the future, when you have a new hypothesis and supporting facts you can actually post. :)
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I am sorry, I am a little lost... Which war are you citing?

THE hypothesis is and has been, that there was an advanced civilization that was wiped out by a flood, around 12,500 years ago, cause by an asteroid impact across the Northern, North American Continent. This impact unleashed massive amounts frozen glacial water that dramatically changed the ocean levels very quickly.

I have posed several coastal images of sunken ruins from along the coast of Spain that have circular walls.

*Using Google Earth, you can zoom in on the shallows along almost any coastline, of Europe and the Mediterranean and see flooded ruins...
 
Cosmic Yak said:
You have my sympathy.
It would be so much easier if you could just submit a link to a YouTube video, along with a demand that the university watch it, followed by endless repetitions of that demand should anyone dare ask for clarification, summary or any actual supporting evidence.
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Message Boards and Graduate Thesis Work are 'different'...
 
King of the Americas said:
I understand that occupations happen for generations after something is constructed. Dating its 'original' creation, in my opinion, would be a matter of finding a stone(s) that has not been disturbed, and dating the material directly under it. OR, one could date the mortar between two originally placed stones. Dating backfill(s) on or around disturbed sites would yield little.
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Nope you find something in the soil beneath the stone - this has already been explained to you twice. Shall you go for three?

Nothing
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Yep nothing

GT is direct evidence that a very advanced agricultural civilization DID indeed exist before or around the Younger Dryas.
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Nope, I suggest you read a book or a paper on pre-dynastic Egypt and the various cultures that existed there. (in the Nile Valley)
 
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