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Kevin Spacey accused of sexual assault on minor......and he's gay

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Kevin Spacey: British police investigate sexual assault claims

Officers look into allegations man was assaulted in London in 2008, while Spacey was working in the UK capital

According to the paper, the man, now aged 32, alleged that Spacey abused him after he passed out at Spacey’s home, where they had shared a drink after the complainant, then aged 23, asked Spacey to help him with his career.

The Sun reported the man’s claims that he awoke to find Spacey performing a sexual act on him, told him to stop and left after Spacey warned him to keep quiet about it.
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https://www.theguardian.com/culture...lt-harassment-house-cards-workers-netflix-cnn

Seems like Spacey didn't had to act much at all for his role as Frank Underwood.
 
Arcade22 said:
Does he go around molesting, or just generally sexually exploiting and abusing, pretty teenage boys and young men in that show?
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Yes, all the time. :rolleyes:

Underwood is intimidating and predatory on people when it comes to his goals.
As far as it seems, Mr. Spacey behaves quite similar in his real life.
 
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
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My thoughts exactly. He could woo lovers with status, money and lavish vacations.
Harvey W same thing. He looks like Jabba the Hutt but can easily afford prostitutes who'll be able to act like they think he's a looker.

They seem to have a power fetish or something. And it'd more about that than the sex. How many of these allegations involve just some nerdy director masturbating in front of his shocked 'audience' and then leaving.

They could have fired up Pornhub at home and still have a career.
 
I think the advent of Donald Trump doomed House Of Cards beyond season 6 anyway, (the idea of a megalomaniac ruthless President became a lot less entertaining) but the Spacey revelataions made it DOA.
This is like a huge ship...in this Case Harvey Weinstein...going down:The resulting suction is taking a lot other people down with it.
 
I see they've closed down production pending a review. Whew! There's still hope ...
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
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He's probably not scene. I've certainly never seen him in Heaven.
 
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Eddie Dane said:
My thoughts exactly. He could woo lovers with status, money and lavish vacations.
Harvey W same thing. He looks like Jabba the Hutt but can easily afford prostitutes who'll be able to act like they think he's a looker.
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I tend to think there's also an element of being deluded that they still have the same pulling power they had when they were a lot younger and a bit easier on the eye. There's something similar going on with some old-enough-to-know-better politicians in the UK.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
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I thought maybe Spacey became a predator because he'd been preyed on. But don't know if that thinking holds up. I'm much less likely to think that about a straight man. I would ascribe a completely different motive to a straight man who preyed on vulnerable women - that he was rejected and now gets off on extorting women into sex. And the men I know who were abused actually seem eager not to do that with someone else.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
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Hence my earlier comment about power not bringing out the best in some people.
 
And over at Warners/DC, a lot of thankfulness that neither Spacey or Bryan Singer is connected with the DC Cinematic Universe. So what happened with Superman Returns might have been a blessing in disguise.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's goddamn 2017, Spacey's lived in the US and the UK, and he's rich and famous. If he wants to grope hot younger men he should have had zero difficulty finding willing ones. That he chose instead to pursue unwilling ones means he's not getting off from the sex itself, he's getting off from the predation.
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Yeah, it seems like there's an assumption that since they're both old and not as good looking as their peers (or sexual competition), both Spacey and Weinstein would be unable to find attractive, willing sexual partners. Not only is that a fundamentally bad assumption (who hasn't seen couples who don't seem to match up in their physical attractiveness?), but these are also people who are rich, famous, and powerful - those qualities tend to enhance one's ability to find companionship and sex. I think it's entirely possible neither of these guys can fully get off without an element of coercion and/or force. Such a fetish is not at all uncommon.
 
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Minoosh said:
I thought maybe Spacey became a predator because he'd been preyed on. But don't know if that thinking holds up. I'm much less likely to think that about a straight man. I would ascribe a completely different motive to a straight man who preyed on vulnerable women - that he was rejected and now gets off on extorting women into sex. And the men I know who were abused actually seem eager not to do that with someone else.
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According to an interview Spacey's brother gave some years ago they come from a very abusive home.
 
Mark F said:
According to an interview Spacey's brother gave some years ago they come from a very abusive home.
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And I'm left wondering if wanna-be rapists (or actual rapists) are born or made. If we imprint on childhood traumas and repeat them in our adult lives. Is it an excuse, or an explanation?

I happen to think Spacey is quite attractive. In a creepy, oily kind of way. He can sing and dance, too. If he keeps his hands off the kiddos I could see him still having a career. I'm sure it never occurred to him that his behavior could cost him his career. And frankly as a teenager my default assumption was that men would touch you, and keep touching you, until you told them to stop or physically removed yourself. More than one male friend has told me they've gone along with sex just because it was easier than saying no. Is that rape?
 
3point14 said:
Everybody that knows believed their career was more important than the dignity and mental health of those in danger.
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Sure. Being worried about ones career prospects is probably one of the common factors explaining such behavior.

However there are plenty of other motivations since most people aren't absolutely and completely motivated by their self-enrichment.

A desire to protect the reputation and standing of the organization they are a part of for example. People often feel loyalty towards any organization or group they have been part of, especially if they have been part of it for a long time and their own social standing depends on the standing of the group.

Another possible motivating factor is the often unsaid principle that "no one is completely clean" and reporting someone else would bring scrutiny upon themselves let alone the possibility that others would tell on them. This is one way you can reduce the risk of people ratting you out: get them to join in on your crimes, make them think they are a co-culprit or at least partially responsible (whether they really are or not). Even if they are uneasy about the situation and might find their actions to be highly questionable they are more likely to resist the urge to go to the cops or whomever.

None of this is specific to sexual abuse scandals and is more general in to what kind of organizations one is a part of or what kind of illegal behavior one is engaging in.
 
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