Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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On Morning Joe they're eviscerating this morning's tweet as a lie:

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Much evidence that Corker was vocally opposed to the Iran Deal.
 
Some people don't want to learn.
They are convinced they are right.
No matter how many times I'd inform the parent, try to explain the difference between a country and a continent (no offense meant Australia), they'd call me racist because I wouldn't let their kid use Africa as their country and I'm disrespecting their heritage.

It was meant to be a "Get a load of this poop" type of comment.
 
That is what makes his position as a school teacher in the community so good, he is part of the very system that failed them. It is more important that they learn about the history of important white places after all.

"He is part of the very system that failed them"

Guilt by association, then?

Not sure what educating a student (and parent) on the fact that Africa is not a country has to do with (supposedly) prioritizing "the history of important white places."

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On Morning Joe they're eviscerating this morning's tweet as a lie:

[qimg]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/37190868484_c04d0a244d_z.jpg[/qimg]

Much evidence that Corker was vocally opposed to the Iran Deal.

Does pointing out all of Trumps lies even matter anymore? His supporters either don't care or have accepted that the truth is what ever Trump says. What is the point of marking everything he says that is trivially provably false?

It just has stopped feeling like the truth matters about anything anymore.
 
"He is part of the very system that failed them"

Guilt by association, then?

Not sure what educating a student (and parent) on the fact that Africa is not a country has to do with (supposedly) prioritizing "the history of important white places."

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It depends on what tone and reaction you were expecting from his post. It felt like the goal was to laugh at the dumb black people who make up fake African sounding names for their kids and don't know anything about Africa.
 
A small Montana company located in Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke's hometown has signed a $300 million contract to help get the power back on in Puerto Rico, The Washington Post reported.

Whitefish Energy — had only two full-time employees on the day Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, according to the Post. It added that the company signed the contract with the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority — the largest yet issued to help restore Puerto Rico — to help fix the island's electrical infrastructure.

The company now has 280 workers on the island, the Post reported, a majority of whom are subcontractors.

A former senior official at the Energy Department and state regulatory agencies said it was "odd" that Whitefish would be chosen.

“The fact that there are so many utilities with experience in this and a huge track record of helping each other out, it is at least odd why [the utility] would go to Whitefish,” Susan F. Tierney said.

“I’m scratching my head wondering how it all adds up.”

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Whitefish spokesman Chris Chiames told the newspaper that the company is taking "personal risks and business risks working in perilous physical and financial conditions.”

“So the carping by others is unfounded, and we stand by our work and our commitment to the people of Puerto Rico," he said.

Zinke's office said in an email to the Post that Zinke and Whitefish's chief executive know each other.

"Everybody knows everybody" in the town, Zinke's office said, adding that Zinke wasn't involved in the contract.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...nterior-chiefs-hometown-wins-massive-contract

Zinke seems more and more like a corrupt sleazebag:

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has directed millions of dollars in political contributions since 2014 to a network of Washington operatives that prominent conservatives have accused of profiting by misleading donors.

Beneficiaries of Zinke’s largesse include groups linked to Washington-area political operative Scott Mackenzie, organizer of a Virgin Islands GOP political action committee that hosted the secretary at a St. Croix fundraiser in March. Before that, when Zinke was a Republican congressman from Montana, his political operation steered significant portions of its spending to a handful of Washington, D.C.-area consulting firms that also have had ties to Mackenzie and his associates.

Zinke has continued this relationship even as other Republicans have recoiled from dealing with Mackenzie, whose critics say he operates "scam PACs" that raise small-dollar donations from conservative voters but then spend the bulk of the money on consultants and overhead. The critics include former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who filed a suit accusing Mackenzie and other defendants of running a “national fundraising scam” after they gave his 2013 campaign for governor less than a half percent of the money they had raised in his name.

Similarly, Zinke’s own leadership PAC also relied heavily on small donors while spending heavily on consultants, in a departure from how most members of Congress operate those kinds of groups.

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Zinke is separately facing investigations by Interior's internal watchdog and the independent Office of Special Counsel over his habit of mixing politics and official business.

Legal limits on Zinke’s partisan activities have tightened now that he’s Interior secretary, and he has cut ties with his PACs since being sworn in. Still, he has kept up appearances at fundraisers and other political events — averaging more than one per month — a pace that is unusual for a Cabinet member. Those include his appearance at the March fundraiser in the Virgin Islands, which occurred during a taxpayer-funded trip less than a month after he became secretary.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/24/zinke-fundraisers-republican-operatives-244094

Lock him up! Lock him up!
 
On Morning Joe they're eviscerating this morning's tweet as a lie:

[qimg]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/37190868484_c04d0a244d_z.jpg[/qimg]

Much evidence that Corker was vocally opposed to the Iran Deal.

I'm actually feeling a little depressed that i kind of look forward to the 3-4pm daftness that is likely to arrive on twitter every day. (plz, americans, not a word. I live in your future and you can just be thankful I didn't say 15h00-16h00)
 
"He is part of the very system that failed them"

Guilt by association, then?

Not sure what educating a student (and parent) on the fact that Africa is not a country has to do with (supposedly) prioritizing "the history of important white places."

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Well, when I was teaching (over 20 years ago) I had all sorts. From Qatar, Palestine, Indonesia, China etc. Without exception, it was the white caucasian locals who came up with the stupidest questions. And these were adults. Eventually, I tired of it and got out and did something else. It was nothing to do with race at all. If anything, the foreign nationals were far better educated and informed
 
Does pointing out all of Trumps lies even matter anymore? His supporters either don't care or have accepted that the truth is what ever Trump says. What is the point of marking everything he says that is trivially provably false?

It just has stopped feeling like the truth matters about anything anymore.
We're on a major detour through objectivism right now (left, right, and center).

If, like me, you tend to frame morality from a perspective of total collective benefit/harm done, then you may find this quite distressing.

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It depends on what tone and reaction you were expecting from his post. It felt like the goal was to laugh at the dumb black people who make up fake African sounding names for their kids and don't know anything about Africa.


I was largely sympathetic with the part about the parents, but he lost me with his response to the child.

Schadenfreude, sarcasm, and abandonment don't seem like appropriate teaching tools. He probably could have helped the kid, in spite of the parent, but he chose the satisfaction of self-justification over doing his job as a teacher.

Unless there was more to the ending of this anecdote, of course.

I'm kind of hoping there was.
 
Does pointing out all of Trumps lies even matter anymore? His supporters either don't care or have accepted that the truth is what ever Trump says. What is the point of marking everything he says that is trivially provably false?

It just has stopped feeling like the truth matters about anything anymore.

Yes, because there are those who only tentatively support him that are giving up on the wait to see him "pivot" to be presidential.
 
Yes, because there are those who only tentatively support him that are giving up on the wait to see him "pivot" to be presidential.

Stop fooling yourself, he has been exactly who he always was, anyone who pretends he will ever change is lying to themselves about their motives.
 
I was largely sympathetic with the part about the parents, but he lost me with his response to the child.

Schadenfreude, sarcasm, and abandonment don't seem like appropriate teaching tools. He probably could have helped the kid, in spite of the parent, but he chose the satisfaction of self-justification over doing his job as a teacher.

Unless there was more to the ending of this anecdote, of course.

I'm kind of hoping there was.

It was the mother's ignorance which - can't think of the right word - "filtered down"? "tainted the daughter's processing filters? - couldn't let her daughter* see past that a white man wouldn't let her study Africa.

Trust me, I tried. My son is 14 and still can't tie his shoes. I try every so often to teach him, he just doesn't have the motor skills. I showed political maps, and maps of the continents, explained the differences to my class(es).
Sometimes, all you can do is keep trying.
Sometimes the message can't or won't get through.


*Some years it is a boy. Sometimes it is more than one child.
 
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Stop fooling yourself, he has been exactly who he always was, anyone who pretends he will ever change is lying to themselves about their motives.

Yes, but his poll numbers are trending down, ever so slightly, but down. Also, some people reach a point where they can't keep lying to themselves.
 
Yes, but his poll numbers are trending down, ever so slightly, but down. Also, some people reach a point where they can't keep lying to themselves.

Not in any serious fashion. You would think making fun of millions of americans with out clean water would be bad and distasteful to americans but apparently it is all good fun like mocking the disabled.
 
Yes, but his poll numbers are trending down, ever so slightly, but down. Also, some people reach a point where they can't keep lying to themselves.

My in-laws insist that when anyone points out his lying, that is just fake news. I ask them to define "fake news" and they just blow it off as unimportant. Then my mother-in-law cries because she just wants people to "Give him a chance"

Then my wife asked, "Did you give Obama a fair chance?"
To which my mother-in-law replied, "I feel betrayed!"
 
Yes, but his poll numbers are trending down, ever so slightly, but down. Also, some people reach a point where they can't keep lying to themselves.


I think we are way past the point where most of those would have jumped off the Trump bus.

If they haven't figured it out by now the chances that they are going to at some point in the future are slim to none.

They are fully invested in their self-deception.
 
On Morning Joe they're eviscerating this morning's tweet as a lie:

[qimg]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/37190868484_c04d0a244d_z.jpg[/qimg]

Much evidence that Corker was vocally opposed to the Iran Deal.

I wonder what President Trump thinks he's going to achieve by picking a fight with someone who might possibly be in a position to help pass "tax reform" (aka giving $2bn to the billionaires) ?

  • Does he think he can batter Corker into submission ?
  • Is he trying to get his excuses in early in case it doesn't pass ?
  • Is he not thinking strategically or tactically and merely venting against someone who is currently annoying him ?

Regarding repeating debunked untruths. His approval rating of 80% or thereabouts with GOP members and supporters shows that the truth is completely unimportant to them so he may as well make up whatever he wants.

Heck he could just say that he'd locked up Hillary, built the wall and got Mexico to pay for it and hugely reduced taxes and the GOP supporters would just give him credit for it. :(
 
My in-laws insist that when anyone points out his lying, that is just fake news. I ask them to define "fake news" and they just blow it off as unimportant. Then my mother-in-law cries because she just wants people to "Give him a chance"

Then my wife asked, "Did you give Obama a fair chance?"
To which my mother-in-law replied, "I feel betrayed!"

You know, sometimes I wonder how some people learned to speak and walk.
 
New tweet, because who doesn't like to keep beating at that horse:

@realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
Isn't it sad that lightweight Senator Bob Corker, who couldn't get re-elected in the Great State of Tennessee, will now fight Tax Cuts plus!


ETA: and a little earlier from Corker:
@SenBobCorker 1h1 hour ago
Same untruths from an utterly untruthful president. #AlertTheDaycareStaff
 
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