Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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Argumemnon said:
Given that several posters on this forum have said that they voted for Trump, isn't that directed at them?
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There are several conservatives on this forum, too, and you're only now wondering if disparaging comments made about a group of people count as direct attacks on forum members?

But to answer your question: No.
 
Subpoena Orders Trump To Turn Over Documents From Assault Allegations

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Trump’s reality TV show The Apprentice, accused Trump of kissing and grabbing her when she went to his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 to discuss a possible job at the Trump Organization. After Zervos made the accusation last October, just weeks before the election, Trump denied her accusation and called it a lie.

She responded by suing him for defamation. As part of that suit, her lawyers served a subpoena on his campaign, asking that it preserve all documents it had about her.

They also asked for “all documents” concerning other women who have accused Trump of groping them, including Jessica Leeds, Mindy McGillivray, Rachel Crooks, Natasha Stoynoff, Temple Taggart, Kristin Anderson, Cathy Heller, Jill Harth, and Jessica Drake. The subpoena seeks “all documents concerning any accusations that were made during Donald J. Trump’s election campaign for president, that he subjected any woman to unwanted sexual touching and/or sexually inappropriate behavior.” Last year, Trump tweeted a blanket denial, saying, “Nothing ever happened with any of these women.”
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
There are several conservatives on this forum, too, and you're only now wondering if disparaging comments made about a group of people count as direct attacks on forum members?
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You say that as if it's the first time I point it out.

But to answer your question: No.
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I disagree. If you say that you collect stamps and then I say that all stamp collectors are idiots and rapists, no exceptions, you don't think that this, especially the last bit, is pretty explicitly directed at you?
 
Argumemnon said:
I disagree. If you say that you collect stamps and then I say that all stamp collectors are idiots and rapists, no exceptions, you don't think that this, especially the last bit, is pretty explicitly directed at you?
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I assume your question was a subtle attempt to point out a Membership Agreement violation. However, as long as I've been here, the mods have never acted as if this is how they interpret the MA. If you have a problem with enforcement, take it up with them.

That's the last I'll say on the topic, as it's completely off-topic and better suited for Forum Management.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
VERY bad example.
All communication systems rely from the get-go on mass adoption. As Kevin Kelly said: the first fax machine was useless. It only became functional once the second one was bought.
The PC was always aimed at the wider market, not just the very rich or huge companies.

There are very few cases were early adopters paid for products that later became mainstream.
High end photography might be an example, as would be some car parts adopted from proffesional racing (turbo charger).
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Indeed.
 
a_unique_person said:
Please explain.
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A friend of mine insists that "Trickle Down" has been a economic success and raised people out of poverty. According to him, Reaganomics has given the Middle Class and even the poor, Refrigerators, Air Conditioning, TVs (yep TVs), and Cellphones. As he continues to see it, minimizing taxes on the wealthy and holding down minimum wages creates a better standard of living for the "unwashed masses."

He lives in a bubble in which there are jobs for everyone and systemic racism no longer exists.

We passed a homeless person begging on the street. he noticed that the homeless person had a bicycle. So he declared her a fraud.
 
Apathia said:
A friend of mine insists that "Trickle Down" has been a economic success and raised people out of poverty. According to him, Reaganomics has given the Middle Class and even the poor, Refrigerators, Air Conditioning, TVs (yep TVs), and Cellphones. As he continues to see it, minimizing taxes on the wealthy and holding down minimum wages creates a better standard of living for the "unwashed masses."

He lives in a bubble in which there are jobs for everyone and systemic racism no longer exists.

We passed a homeless person begging on the street. he noticed that the homeless person had a bicycle. So he declared her a fraud.
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How does he explain countries that didn't do that by have those things?
 
BobTheCoward said:
How does he explain countries that didn't do that by have those things?
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When it comes to any talk about the standard of living in other countries, he always says, "Irrelevant. We do it the American Way. We are a free country with no Socialism."
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I assume your question was a subtle attempt to point out a Membership Agreement violation.
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I think it was quite direct, nothing subtle about it.

However, as long as I've been here, the mods have never acted as if this is how they interpret the MA.
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Nor I. I just think it's a poor excuse to insult members of this forum.

If you have a problem with enforcement, take it up with them.
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I had a problem with a statement made by a member, and I took it up with him.
 
Apathia said:
A friend of mine always makes the point that it's obvious "Trickle Down" works.
Every home can now afford such luxuries as air conditioning, TV, and a refrigerator.
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That is the result of multiple journeys by myriad enterprises down the learning curve. Long-run costs and prices approach minima via iterative optimization. Normal outcome, to be expected. Zero to do with supply side voodoo.


ETA: In fact, your friend's comment is validation of the role of knowledge and knowledge management in lifting all boats over time, across history. Not a popular perspective among tax dodgers and "I-did-it-all-myself" libertarians.
 
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Stacko said:
They're all lies of delusional self aggrandizement. That some may work as cons is tangential to the purpose of the lie.
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I agree, these aren't strategic lies, they aren't lies to facilitate anything they are simply his character.
 
Tero said:
Senators printing dollars in three 8 hour shifts in Capitol basement to pay for trump tax cuts. Exhausted senators setting up cots for naps when the printing machines do not need any monitoring.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/16/trump-tax-plan-deficits-243759
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Mulvaney responded in kind during an interview last week, accusing Corker of “ignoring reality.”

“Macroeconomic changes will always lead to change in the larger economy, okay?” he said. “You raise a tax, it has impact. You lower tax, it has impact. It just does.”
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When you do stuff, other stuff happens. It's brilliant!
 
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