Real İslam is reverse of spiritualism

Is there, perhaps, a written version somewhere? The video moves very slowly, and I really don't feel up to clicking through a youtube video for something that looks like it's probably a wee bit ridiculous. I'll read it, but not in that format.
 
It was loading slow for me, so I wasn't able to watch much. But I do wonder why there is a Baha'i' symbol near the start of the video? Are you saying that the Baha'i' faith is mired in spiritualism?
 
In a nutshell (pardon the expression)

Spiritualism is against Islam because the Quran says so. The Quaran is authoritative because God appeared to someone and told them it was.

I don't really expect an answer to this question, but I am on the edge of my seat wondering why I should believe Spiritualist's say-so over Islamic say-so.
 
Nobody has got ghost according to Quran

Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost ...

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h t t p://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html


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According to the verses; Spirit is revelation, holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel) and revelation book.

spirit = revelation (according to Quran)
 
And In the Qur'an, the spirit word is passed in singular form. The word "ervah", which is a plural of spirit, never goes in verses. This gives us another proof of the absence of souls.

Peace
 
Emre_1974tr said:
According to the verses; Spirit is revelation, holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel) and revelation book.

spirit = revelation (according to Quran)
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Are you saying the angel Gabriel is the holy spirit? Because The holy spirit/ghost in the bible is a part of the trinity. The holy Ghost spoke through the mouths of the disciples.

Muhammad says the angel Gabriel gave him the message of the Quran, and I think he confused Gabriel with the holy ghost.
Quran surah 16.102
Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims
 
Quote from post 6. Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)

As I have said on another thread nothing is solid. Everything was energy which is the source of atoms, and atoms are largely empty space.

The story of Adam is obviously a myth and the idea that he was made out of clay is laughable, it is also stolen from the bible.

As for Jinn, Genies, they too are an Arab myth.
 
There exists no "element fire". This explaind why there exist no jinns.

What difference does it make if my dead body is recreated today or in a million years? As long as I don't exist, I have no concept of time, suffering, longing. I shall sense nothing of the intervening ages.
 
As for the resurrection of the body, where will all the dead be resurrected. Not on this earth for sure, as there would be standing room only.

In any case to be an eternal human being resurrected in the body would have problems.
Frank Tipler pointed out in his book 'the physics of immortality' after the first thousand years all the memory cells of the brain would be used up so an eternal human being would become unable to remember anything.

Besides who would want to be an eternal human being in Muhammad's pathetic heaven.
Reclining on couches where the fruit hangs low being waited on by wide eyed youths.
It might appeal to dusty old desert Arabs for a few centuries, but after that they would probably pray for death.
 
Lets try the moral argument. The Quran quotes God as saying. " I created men and Jinn only that they might worship me." What kind of pathetic God would create beings just to worship him? and what kind of human beings worship a God that will burn unbelievers in eternal hell?

Here are some of the verses in the Quran about what God will do to people and it makes him out to be an insane sadistic monster. No human father or mother would do these things to their children, so why would God?

4.56 Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as
their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may
taste the penalty: for God is Exalted in Power, Wise.


22.19 These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those
who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads
will be poured out boiling water.
22.20 With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins.
22.21 In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them.
22.22 Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be
forced back therein, and (it will be said), "Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!"


40.70 Those who deny the scripture and that wherewith we send our messengers.
But they will come to know.
40.71 When yokes are about their necks and chains, they are dragged.
40.72 Through boiling waters; then they are thrust into the fire.
 
emre, you are right about one thing, spiritualism and Islam are incompatible.

But if you think about it all you have to support your beliefs is a fourteen hundred year old book which is full of myths and flaws. But I have a lifetime of experience of listening to the revelations of living spirits. They say there will be no judgement day and there is no hellfire. They say there is no devil and as you have observed in post 6 they say we reincarnate in a cycle of rebirths. But only until we reach an enlightened state of spiritual evolution. After which we continue to evolve as immortals in the spirit world. Or higher planes of experience.
 
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