Cosmic Yak
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As I said upthread, there was no scandal. In fact, they asked him to stay for one more year.
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As I said upthread, there was no scandal. In fact, they asked him to stay for one more year.
Henri McPhee
Illuminator
This matter is difficult to detect if Heath's former colleagues all categorically deny it and the victims are regarded by the police as fruitloops. The Mail on Sunday and the Chief Constable of Wiltshire are a bit more sceptical:
www.barthsnotes.com/2017/10/0/mail-...s-of-edward-heath-child-sex-abuse-allegations
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Judith Reisman is a certified nut job. Who believes a great deal of nonsense and lies habitually.
For example regarding Gays. Reisman believes that Homosexuals systematically recruit people into their evil "lifestyle". And Reisman believes that the Nazi Movement was a creation of the German homosexual movement who were also to a large extent responsible for the Holocaust. The fact the German Gays were victimized by the Nazis she regards has a myth. And Ms. Reisman believes that the modern American homosexual movement is much like the Nazis movement and like them is planning mass atrocities. Her nonsense isn't confined to demonizing Gay people it extends to other areas.
There is absolutely no reason to take anything produced by this nut bar seriously
I hesitate to believe as I am reminded that sometimes investigations can actually be cover-ups. Naturally we sometimes may not know whether or not we are looking at a high level cover up. Trust in media is another issue. Sometimes accusations are false too.
The world wide cover-up by the black robe pedophiles in power being an example. Although that problem was recently exposed and prosecuted somewhat, it could still be happening somewhere. It was members of the clergy rather than members of the judiciary in robes. As far as I know we have not yet heard of this problem in the judiciary.
Then there is the ubiquitous impediment of denial among certain types, other citizens, parents, and peers & colleagues of the pedos. I'd guess police are the least susceptible to this denial. They work the streets. Then there is the information system's record of reliability, and connections to power to consider. Government has placed agents in gatekeeper positions in media for other reasons, a glimpse of the range of possibilities in one arena of corrupted power, and the black arts of deception.
I saw a piece recently about the folly of blindness to real data based on that type attitude.
I doubt you would always look away from any and all actual data unearthed by nutbars going about their business.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Wow. the Daily Fail cited as a source. Get over it.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
And the diamond tipped drill of fact. How does that figure into your reality?
Fact used to be better than it is now. Before things like operation mockingbird produced phony facts. Afterward, I was in fact disappointed to find some facts were in fact fake facts. In fact I'd like to have a reliable deception detector device installed please. Got any extra?
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phiwum
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Eh, she makes a point. There's a weird juxtaposition of little girl photos with nudies, don't you think?
Mind, such a point does nothing at all to establish the conspiracy of pedos that is at issue here.
You are assuming that Ms. Reisman produces or produced in this case "real data". My point was that she habitually lies, fabricates and distorts to support her koo-koo agenda and therefore is extremely unlikely to produce any "real data". But then that is not the purpose of her "research". The purpose of her research is to support her nut bar beliefs.
Her beliefs about Gay people "recruiting" and founding the Nazis movement etc., are supported by her fabricated "research" and that "research" is nonsensical and a pack of lies / distortions. Given Ms. Reisman's track record of falsification etc., why should she be taken seriously about anything?
And yes I would at the very least seriously question the value of research done by all nut bars, especially in a case like this where the nut bar in question already has a history of distortion, fabrication and lying. Ms. Reisman has a Socio-political agenda and is dedicated to advancing that agenda by any and all means. This "research" paper on Playboy is obviously in further service of that agenda.
Oh I did read the paper. It is hilarious. It's fantasies and assumptions are laughable. Ms. Reisman has issues.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Nope, she simply makes utter crap up. If you fold it in quarters and turn it left 45 degrees, then yes, it does look like a flock of geese. There is a huge difference between pareidolia and willful invention.
Correct. Pedos exist in all walks of life. Is there some over-arching pedo-ring of power? Sure. And Sauron is real. Really, it is the very same as the satanic panic of years ago, or McCarthy's reds under the bed crap.
ddt
Mafia Penguin
Operation Conifer, Operation Yewtree... no wonder the English police doesn't find these pedo rings, they can't see the forest for the trees. Wake up sheeple, connect the
ddt
Mafia Penguin
I'm really surprised that Valerie Sinason hasn't turned up in this thread yet. She knows so many details about these satanic child abuse rings, up to the colours of the robes of their high priests. And I disagree with "years ago", as most of these SRA inventing therapists, Sinason is still pushing it.
"a point"....yes.
To me the juxtaposition of little girl photos with nudies is a data point. As in a piece of raw data. A fact. No matter who notices it and writes about it.
The juxtaposition of little girl photos with nudies is a data point. If the playmate's kiddie pics fold out across the nude centerfold pic frequented by the 'readers', and if Hefner said nothing is by accident in his magazine....its not a coincidence 'readers' can view both simultaneously, as she wrote.
Facts are facts even if monkeys point us to notice the juxtaposition of the pics.
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abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Sorry, it is a bit of a stretch to imagine that origami is a pre-requisite for paedophilia. That is just messed up.
The juxtaposition of little girl photos and nude photos does not prove in the slightest a pedo purpose. Ms. Reisman is simply engaged in looking for a pattern which of course she will find because it fits her agenda. The idea that this is designed to habituate people to pedo practices is utter bull and something Ms. Reisman pulled from her backside.
Please present the evidence that pedophiles use Playboy for erotic purposes in any numbers.
Yes facts are facts. And the following are also "data points". Ms. Reisman is liar, distorter and true believer out on a crusade against "evil". She deliberately and coolly lies to advance her agenda has illustrated by her lies about Gay people. She is to use a descriptor a fanatic who does not hesitate to use foul means to destroy her enemies.
Her "research" about Playboy's alleged, fantasized pedo agenda is par for the course for a established liar and falsifier. Ms. Reisman's fantasies regarding the reasons for the juxtaposition is of course just that deranged fantasies.
Please present the "evidence" that pedophiles routinely masturbate to such juxtapositions. Also present the evidence that Playboy was deliberately playing for the pedo market.
All we have is the fantasies of a well established liar and fabricator who fantasizes that the juxtaposition of such photos is done to advance some sort of pedo agenda for which she presents zero evidence.
Ms. Reisman noted a juxtaposition and ignores the obvious reasons why such photos were used and then fantasizes a pedo agenda. And this fits perfectly her agenda which she advances through lying, distortions and fabrications.
The fact is it is virtually impossible to take such a manipulative, lying nut bar seriously about anything. How is that for a data point.
Since no one said that specifically...it appears as revision per agenda...ie isnt that one of the ways that strawmen find their way into this world?
Its no stretch that playmate kiddie pics unfolding to allow viewing with the adult monthly centerfold focal points could promote fantasy/thoughts involving kids.
If people not born as pedos could thereby become a threat to kids, it matters.
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
No. Your wild claim, your burden of proof.
Except that it is. Your inventive origami is more indicative of your state of mind.
And that just paints you as a pedo. Sad.
The paper is primarily about sexualization of kids by playboy. Boys and girls.
I would not claim either of your two were (hilited items) I did not see them asserted by anyone. Hence, they remind me of strawmen.
Below is the only appearance, once, of the p-word:
...the new four-fold design creates neuronal pathways that must link innocent children with strong Playboy orgasm-based stimuli. Inevitably this stimuli effects how children inside and outside the home are perceived and treated by pedophiles and/or Playboy users.
I posted the paper because it seemed relevant. It seemed to imply that the juxtaposed kid pics could promote pedo like thinking in non pedos. If I am wrong about that, so be it. The sexualization of kids in general is relevant IMO. I think the paper correctly portrays how playboy sexualized kids, and then quit when someone turned a light on it.