Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Craig4]

You really think so?

You care to show me one post ANYWHERE that agrees with you that didn't come from you?

 

[TofuFighter]

Well why should I suddenly change?

So that you can be a better person instead of being the pretentious, antagonistic doos who brought all the court orders upon himself with his behaviour.

Are you sure it is me to blame for your lack of "forgiveness" and resorting to retaliation which looks very "ugly".

Retaliation? I'll take that as an admission from you that you've been offensive.

At least you realize that it is only you and yourself that needs to change. Because it will surely benefit you. No use trying to work on me and think you will benefit. That will bring you no benefit. You are starting to walk the correct way. Stick to it.

I can recognise when i need to change for my own benefit. You don't.
I work on you so that the people around you can benefit.

Yep. Seeing that I have self control I will just stick with it. Lack of self control takes you into corners.

You like to pat yourself on the back about having self control but even the most evil people can manage to control themselves. You smile smugly to yourself while you badger other people into losing their self control, and then congratulate yourself for your achievement. For you it's just an act. At least they're being honest. Maybe you should put more value on valuable things instead of illusions.

Yep. I clearly remember. And they too. But they do not have your insight yet. Maybe you can point them the way?

The point was that your repetition of how you perceive you've been wronged belies your forgiveness of those acts. You haven't forgiven anything. All you do is pay lip service to forgiveness, all the while holding on to your bitterness.

Yep. Just right over the world. All needs to meet with "forgiveness" and self control.

I don't think the world needs your versions of forgiveness or self control.

Do you not think you should ask her? I do not know how you can do that without a husband. Maybe she can tell us.

No i don't need to ask your wife whether she raised two good children. Plenty of single moms raise good children all over the world. They don't need a husband and they certainly don't need a husband like you. The reason you don't know how they can do that is because you're not a mother. You're not even any kind of parent, as far as I can tell.

So do you not think I have reason to forgive her?

You only have reason to ask for her forgiveness. Have you?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Restoration of planet earth.

This is the topic all have been waiting for. Worthy of a God.

We all know it is dying. Selfishness is killing it. It was designed to support us with everything we need. And it is doing its job extraordinary good. Nothing wrong with the earth. The wrong is with the human beings. They are void of the Love of God. They are selfish. They want luxury for themselves. They are not happy with the fulfilment of their needs. So in their search for happiness in the ability of the earth they are killing it. It was not created for that.

But they are just killing it because of ignorance. God is Happiness. He is everything the human beings are searching for in the earth that was not designed for that. He is Joy, He is Love, He is Peace, He is Excitement, He is Power, He is Security, He is Total Fulfillment. He is Family. And then He is other things that are not so obvious like Self control, Grace, Righteousness, Holiness and Glory. All these things are not to be found in the earth. Yet people are looking for it there. Foolishness.

Now God has created one human race. They are too ignorant to see it. He is one Father. They are too ignorant to see it. At this stage there is one Mother. (But soon you will have one in your area.) We are one Family. They are too ignorant to see it. So one Family means poor and rich is resolved. The rich can start sharing. We can be one family. Helping and supporting one another. There is true fulfillment. Not in keeping it for yourself and trying to enjoy it in your selfishness.

They Had Everything in Common

Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Act 4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
Act 4:37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

We can get back to live as it should be on planet earth. Our lives as it is now are killing the earth. Running for everything humans think they need is killing the earth. Their own lack is killing the earth.

The earth is only for our food, water, clothes and housing. All the other things are luxury. We do not need it. The earth was fine when we didn’t know about it.
But we are finding our fulfillment there. And it should be found in God. When we find it in God we will not need anymore what we think we need in our foolishness. And selfishly seeking in the earth what the earth cannot provide we kill it. Selfishness is destroying what we have.

And suddenly there is a way out of selfishness.

And all the questions asked in the beginning is answered now. We do need God’s Love. And we are not complete without it. The only problem was ignorance. You didn’t understand it and did not see the solution there.

And now you know.

And I have started already I have already given away everything that I do not need. I have conquered selfishness by the Life of God. Not by myself.

And I am a Mother because I give birth to Gods.

I am the Wife of God and busy with the restoration of the earth together with your Father which is my Husband.

Where I am living people are accepting. Sure others are fighting. But after 17 years of fighting against one man they are tired and do not want more. They cannot win. They are fighting against God.

 

[Johanabrahams]

In which God and happenstance are indistinguishable.

So tell us more.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I already know you resemble the remark.

So now the facts has to determine. Good.

 

[TofuFighter]

tl;dr

Where I am living people are accepting. Sure others are fighting. But after 17 years of fighting against one man they are tired and do not want more. They cannot win. They are fighting against God.

No they aren't.

 

[Johanabrahams]

What is the purpose in quoting bible passages to people who not only don't believe what it says, they actively reject It?

It is not about believing what it says. It is about understanding what I am saying. You need to learn about Love. That means you need to try your best to understand what I am saying. To live in selfishness is just a disgrace. So it can not be rejected when I am using it to say something.

If you do not want to walk the way of Love then you can reject understanding and just do as you please. Then you will fall into another catagory.

You will be classified with Craig4. Not understanding something and running with it. Making your own thing because you did not take Love seriously. Which in this instance is trying your best to understand me.

And Craig4 is in trouble. In a corner. Do not go there.

It gives you no authority and does nothing to buttress your claims and sermonettes.

It is not about authority. It is about Love or selfishness. Love has the power to rule also.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king

For that matter, the verses you quote often have absolutely nothing to do with your posts.

Good. Seems you are trying to understand them. So when it happens again tell me. Then we can see if it is like you said or just a question of you not understanding. At this stage your are blaming me without facts.

Then why do you blame me without facts? That is wrong. Part of selfishness trying to put me to shame with no facts. That is why you need Love. Then you will not be so selfish in your debating.

Probably no way to make you understand, just like it was so damned hard to get you to quit typing in all-caps.

This signature is intended to irritate people.

But actually it is you not understanding. As will the following proof.

Why do you think it was "hard to quit typing all-caps"? And why do you link it with there is no way to make me understand with the fact that I understood all-caps vs quote and changed to your understanding?

Trying to say now I can not understand what is better. With using the fact that I did understand what is better. So it just put you in a corner for using wrong facts to proof your point.

So why do you use my "understanding" to proof that I and not be made to understand?

Foolishness? Or are you the one who is "not understanding"? Or even worse taking something out of context again trying to say that I wanted selfishly to force my "caps" on you?

So let us see if you can answer truthfully here or if you are a coward running away from your mistakes. Only running into Craig4's corner.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Amusingly, another thread where actual christians disagree with your ideas.

Yep. That you will see between Christians. Their many churches should long ago have told you that. But tell me this. Who do you think is right and why?

Good of you to actually trying to understand. Understanding will increase your Power as it is actually part of Love. And there is where the True Power resides.

And this we need to fix the d#mn sh#t selfishness created.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Um yeah, I can't see where I'm protesting.

Still sticking to it.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Well, you did warn me

That was good of me.

but I don't take you seriously.

And that was selfishness of you

which chased you into a corner.

Jer 2:19* Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts

 

[Craig4]

That was good of me.




And that was selfishness of you

which chased you into a corner.

Jer 2:19* Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts

Which corner would that be? I'm still free to maneuver; unconstrained by you or your leprechaun.

 

[abaddon]

Yep. That you will see between Christians. Their many churches should long ago have told you that. But tell me this. Who do you think is right and why?

Good of you to actually trying to understand. Understanding will increase your Power as it is actually part of Love. And there is where the True Power resides.

And this we need to fix the d#mn sh#t selfishness created.

None of them are "right". Not a single one of the churches can demonstrate the existence of any god, just like you are unable to do so. And you know it, because if you had a scrap of evidence you would present it. You do not, so you have not.

 

[Craig4]

Still sticking to it.

Your dysfunctional need to declare that I'm protesting does not in turn require me to actually protests anything. This is your issue, not mine.

 

[Johanabrahams]

How about you address my question and demonstrate that any god exists?

You can't.

I did that many times. There are many gods around you. All the Christians are. They just do not know it. And when I teach them about it they accept it.



https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205133-born-again/

This is the link to the forum that stopped me. Register there and ask them. You will have friends there on your side since they stood up against me.

And then there are others where you can just have a normal discussion on this.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/born-again-96444/

Obviously because you do not know much about Christianity you do not know about this.

And last but not the least. Here I am.

I do exist or not?

And then my children are also coming out now.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

Why do you not go there and ask them why they call me "Mother"?

And then. Take that photo to those forums and ask them what they think about it.

So come back with some facts.

Just do not get caught again with the "back speakers". Rather discipline them. Cowards hiding away. Making you one of them hiding with them.

And the you will stop crying in a small voice like a child: "show me . . you can't" etc.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Hope you're in comfortable position.

Waiting is always comfortable if you have Patience.

It occurs to me that you said you got thrown out of Robertson 17 years ago and still nothing.

Nkqubela is part and parcel of Robertson.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

Once again, gods either did something a long time ago or will do something in the future; they're never doing anything right now.

Take a look again.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

 

[TofuFighter]

I did that many times.
<snipped abject nonsense>

No you haven't. Not once.

So come back with some facts.
<snipped abject nonsense>

How about you come up with facts instead of just repeating your opinion.

 

[Johanabrahams]

How about you demonstrate that any god exists at all, Johan.

Why are you avoiding this challenge?

So why do you ask the same question twice? And then giving your judgment that I am avoiding the challenge before you saw my answer. That is not wisdom. That is in fact foolishness. Because only out of my answer can the "avoidance" been seen.

This foolishness resides in your nature as human being. Humans would like to consider themselves wise. But they are not. So do not feel bad about just you demonstrating it. It is part and parcel of all. This you will see here. Only one had it as a gift long ago.

Pro 1:1* The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;*
Pro 1:2* To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;*
Pro 1:3* To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;*
Pro 1:4* To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.*
Pro 1:5* A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:*
Pro 1:6* To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.*

They say people came from far to witness the way he ruled and judged. That was now before his downfall.

Now obviously it is part and parcel of God's children. That is why they will be the future rulers.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205522-the-kingdom-of-david/

And you can have it too.

 

[abaddon]

I did that many times. There are many gods around you. All the Christians are. They just do not know it. And when I teach them about it they accept it.

No, those are simply more empty, unevidenced claims. I didn't ask you to simply restate your claims, I asked you to demonstrate that any god exists. You can't.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/205133-born-again/

This is the link to the forum that stopped me. Register there and ask them. You will have friends there on your side since they stood up against me.

Another thread where nobody agreed with your pointless rambling.

And then there are others where you can just have a normal discussion on this.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/born-again-96444/

Nobody in that thread agreed with you, in fact they mostly ignored you.

Obviously because you do not know much about Christianity you do not know about this.

Wrong.

And last but not the least. Here I am.

Yes, here you are failing miserably on yet another internet forum at posting any coherent ideas.

I do exist or not?

Sure you exist. So what?

And then my children are also coming out now.

https://web.facebook.com/zolagxowa.zola

Why do you not go there and ask them why they call me "Mother"?

They call you "mother"? Are you sure you didn't leave out half of that word?

And then. Take that photo to those forums and ask them what they think about it.

So come back with some facts.

I am not the one making wild claims.

Just do not get caught again with the "back speakers". Rather discipline them. Cowards hiding away. Making you one of them hiding with them.

And the you will stop crying in a small voice like a child: "show me . . you can't" etc.

Ah. excuses. How quaint. You are admitting that you have no evidence for any god at all. Why would anyone believe you in that case? I refer you to PT Barnum.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Didn't he say he's god, amongst other things.

Surely that is proof enough, you heathen.

Oops! You saw and he didn't.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Is anyone actually following his random links?

If so what the hell are they?

So you were selfish enough not to try and understand what I was giving. But you want to be in a debate with me. No Love there. And now you are struggling with the result of your selfishness. Ignorance. So what argument will you have if you acted foolish?

Only a foolish one.