Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Craig4]

Yep. But they do not understand it. Thus they grabbed the cat by the tail. And a cat has sharp nails.

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Yep all kinds of forgiveness there.

What are you going to do, get all condescending and pretend to be their mother on them? Ooooo scary.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I had noticed in certain writings here the conspicuous lack of whatever quality is required to fix problems, including the obvious ones of grammatical sloppiness and that of responding to posts with remarks that are spectacularly irrelevant. Thank you for identifying that quality yourself.

Well grammar is not that important.

But understanding what all this is about is.

So if there is something that "remarks from my side that were too irrelevant" didn't clear up for you then you are welcome to go into that again. But if you have no such issue then these "irrelevant remarks" were not so "irrelevant".

 

[Johanabrahams]

You and your propensity to off people obviously. If you helped people like you've admitted to, I'd seek protection from the law and the courts too.

Well then you need to run quickly because the way I help you here is exactly the way I helped and still are everyone in Robertson.

Deep down, I think you know this but just in case, there are no gods. The life you admitted to taking was the one and only life that person had.

Well I think Tom would be the best bet to ask since it was him I killed.

The raising up is just your imagination.

As I said. Tom should answer this himself.

I suspect this is all a dodge to avoid facing the reality of what you did.

Well actually this is the manifestation of Wisdom:

Pro 18:13* He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.*

And when this Wisdom manifests in a church in front of everybody concerning the "leader" there that leader just has to run for a court order.

And to whom are you going to run now? The MA?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Yep all kinds of forgiveness there.

Yep. As a mother should have for her kids.

What are you going to do, get all condescending

A Mother has a certain relationship with her children. Obviously it is in guiding them on the correct way in Love. Very personal.

and pretend to be their mother on them? Ooooo scary.

This is not "pretending" They know their Father is God. They are just a bit objecting to having a Mother now too. They were taught this weird idea that the wife of God is the church.

I do not know how you marry a church. Neither would I go into such a marriage. But they taught everybody that God is that foolish.

But they will get use to God that like the personal touch. We all do. And it is a benefit to them too. Having had a church for a mother up to now. Shame. Poor kids. No wonder they are so "weird". Imagine. A family with only a Father.

It is already 17 years now that they have a real Mother. Seems they get tired fighting it. Should happen this way. You can never beat the Truth.

You see. For many years they were taught that 1 and 1 equals 5. Now I am showing them that 1 and 1 actually equals 2. Obviously those that put themselves in the "authority" position and putting themselves in the position of "knowing all" has a huge problem now.

Therefor the court orders.

 

[abaddon]

If you are everyone's mother, who is your mother?

 

[Craig4]

Well then you need to run quickly because the way I help you here is exactly the way I helped and still are everyone in Robertson.



Well I think Tom would be the best bet to ask since it was him I killed.



As I said. Tom should answer this himself.



Well actually this is the manifestation of Wisdom:

Pro 18:13* He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.*

And when this Wisdom manifests in a church in front of everybody concerning the "leader" there that leader just has to run for a court order.

And to whom are you going to run now? The MA?

Tom can't answer and it's your fault.

As for manifesting wisdom to your church, that's your own affair though if you could you would have by now. Your dispute amuses me but I have no stake in it.

Funny how you read about gods doing stuff a long time ago and what they are going to do someday. You never see them doing anything now.

Careful you don't get brained by a Zulu war club again when you try to spread your wisdom. Your attempts at "motherhood" do seem to result in you getting the **** kicked out of you by your neighbors.

 

[Johanabrahams]

If you are everyone's mother, who is your mother?

Yep. Good question. I am not so lucky. When I was born again it was by children of God. They were not mothers yet. So what happened was that I was just left struggling alone. No mother to look after me and help me to grow up in the newly born Life of God.

That is one of the problems of the Christians. They just go on making babies and enjoying it while they are not really mothers. So the Christian religion is suffering from this tendency. They are all babies and young children of God. And they just fight everyone taking that position.

We do see Paul aspired to be a father.

1Co 4:15* For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

But he didn't have all the revelations that we have today. He knew he was a parent but just understood it in the light that he was a man. At least he had the knowledge that he was a parent and therefor took the responsibility to give parental advice and spiritual growth after the children were born from him.


Now we have the revelations of John which give us a better understanding of the situation.

Rev 19:6* And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.*
Rev 19:7* Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.*

Only problem now is that the "kids" does not understand this so clearly and tend to say that God gets married to the church. As if it is possible to be married to a church. I would certainly not want to be. As it takes the personal touch out of the marriage.

Now suddenly the Truth is here. And they struggle to take it. But they take the teaching.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-marriage.8017710/

But when the reality of the teaching is done they fight.

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[Johanabrahams]

Tom can't answer and it's your fault.

How do you see that?

As for manifesting wisdom to your church, that's your own affair though if you could you would have by now.

Well this time I was speaking to you.

Your dispute amuses me but I have no stake in it.

No problem. At least it is worth something.

Funny how you read about gods doing stuff a long time ago and what they are going to do someday.

That is just because what is "going to happen someday" is left for the kids when they are grown up.

You never see them doing anything now.

The kids are still kids.

Careful you don't get brained by a Zulu war club again when you try to spread your wisdom.

No problem. It will be a pleasure to die for my Husband seeing that He died for me first.

I did get a knife in my arm two weeks ago. But God is still keeping my "brains" intact. Maybe because I still need them to preach.

Your attempts at "motherhood" do seem to result in you getting the **** kicked out of you by your neighbors.

I can understand that. Do not blame them.

 

[abaddon]

What about your birth mother?

 

[Craig4]

Well you're not really teaching are you? You're just making wild and meaningless claims. That's not the same as teaching.

 

[Craig4]

A knife in your arm (if it happened)? What is it going to take for you to figure out that you're not welcome there? Why impose on people something they don't want or need?

 

[Johanabrahams]

What about your birth mother?

My mother as a human being died approximately 13 years ago. Luckily God has another family Life that does not die on you.

 

[abaddon]

My mother as a human being died approximately 13 years ago. Luckily God has another family Life that does not die on you.

So all this god/mother/whatever baloney is you attempting to compensate, right?

Did you try and convince your real mother that you were her mother?

 

[Belz...]

Fear is ruling

There is war in Robertson.

One man against thousands. But one man is fighting with God at his side. And thousands are on the run. Why?
Because this is a spiritual fight. Right against wrong. And right is destined by God to always win. He is on the side of right.
Pretty obvious why right always wins.

We can learn a lot in this fight. Everywhere there are wrong and mostly people are just turning a blind eye.
So the question is? Do you like it? Turning the blind eye. That is wrong. So maybe some of you have not been turning the blind eye. Then you are welcome to tell us how you are doing it so that we all can learn.
It is about learning.
And I have something to teach.

Here we have a town using “punishment” to correct children. Bodily harm is inflicted. Bodily pain is the means by which children are kept in line. The spirit behind it is fear. By fear children are kept in line.
Fear of pain.

But this fear goes much further than this. It is used everywhere. People fear to speak up. People fear to go to prison. People fear to get a court order. People fear to be beaten up. It is just ruling everywhere. Even here. People fear to be “banned”. It is just the spirit ruling on planet earth.

The question is if Love can rule. Can Truth rule? Can God rule?
We know that Love and Truth is from God. And fear. Not from Him.

So in Robertson fear is used. Bodily harm is inflicted and banning occurs. One man is being beaten up. And one man is being banned. Banned from his family. Banned from his churches. And lastly banned out of his nation. Staying now with another nation.
So suddenly fear has no effect. And a new order is established. Order by the Truth. And the spirit behind it is Love and Forgiveness.

And Truth reigns.
And Truth is spreading.
Or is it a fake?

Opening lines of your upcoming work of fiction?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Well you're not really teaching are you? You're just making wild and meaningless claims. That's not the same as teaching.

Maybe you are used to the "kids" stuff? Those they do in the churches. You don't perhaps think them a bit more "meaningless"

 

[Johanabrahams]

A knife in your arm (if it happened)?

Yep. It did. Ask there on my Facebook page.

What is it going to take for you to figure out that you're not welcome there?

Nope I am. This was a daughter of mine who attacked me because I showed her video of how she handle her son when she is drunk.

Why impose on people something they don't want or need?

Everyone needs it. And she need this discipline too. Because deep down she knows that I was actually helping her. She fights a lot here in the Sjebeen too and not just against her child. My other daughter, the owner of the Sjebeen does not want that. She might get herself into more serious trouble with the owner if she does not change as she is at this stage also staying with the owner. You know very well how humans handle someone that does not fall in with the rules. They just "ban" or chase away.

But I did mention to her that if she does not want me for a "Father" anymore she can just start calling me Johan. She is not yet calling me Mother. But up to now she is still calling me "Father".

 

[Craig4]

Maybe you are used to the "kids" stuff? Those they do in the churches. You don't perhaps think them a bit more "meaningless"

I don't believe in fairies, spirits, unicorns, elves, or gods. I don't have beliefs generally speaking. What's kid stuff is thinking you have an imaginary friend in they sky, or in your case an imaginary husband. This is something humanity should have grown out of a long time ago.

 

[Craig4]

Tom can't answer and it's your fault.

.....Do not blame them.

Tom can't answer because you killed him. You said that yourself.

As for blaming them, I don't. I completely see where your neighbors are coming from (though I don't condone violence).

 

[Craig4]

Yep. It did. Ask there on my Facebook page.



Nope I am. This was a daughter of mine who attacked me because I showed her video of how she handle her son when she is drunk.




Everyone needs it. And she need this discipline too. Because deep down she knows that I was actually helping her. She fights a lot here in the Sjebeen too and not just against her child. My other daughter, the owner of the Sjebeen does not want that. She might get herself into more serious trouble with the owner if she does not change as she is at this stage also staying with the owner. You know very well how humans handle someone that does not fall in with the rules. They just "ban" or chase away.

But I did mention to her that if she does not want me for a "Father" anymore she can just start calling me Johan. She is not yet calling me Mother. But up to now she is still calling me "Father".

So call the police. It's not like you have any moral authority, not after what you admitted to.

 

[Johanabrahams]

So all this god/mother/whatever baloney is you attempting to compensate, right?

Nope. The main difference between Christianity and other religions are the fact that we have a personal relationship with a Living God.

I give you a thread with lots of examples that you can read there yourself.

But just to give an idea here is two

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.378

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.379

This personal side of God which we all met with is evident in all the Christian forums.



Did you try and convince your real mother that you were her mother?

Nope. At that stage I didn't go into this issue. She did understood that she was a younger sister of mine though since it was with me that she met God and started growing as His child.