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Anyone know why this lot didn't vote against it?
I mean apart from Dennis, who I presume was just being his usual obstreperous self.
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Anyone know why this lot didn't vote against it?
I mean apart from Dennis, who I presume was just being his usual obstreperous self.
ddt
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According to this article in the Independent:I thought that one of the reasons why we wanted out of the EU was the (IMO imagined) democratic deficit.
So, despite not winning a majority of the seats, the Tories want control over every committee. The vote is up tonight.
Stringer has an interesting record.
It was announced today that Graham Stringer, Labour MP for Blackley and Broughton, and Peter Lilley, Conservative MP for Hitchin and Harpenden, will join the GWPF’s Board of Trustees. They are the only currently-elected MPs to be listed as members.
Both Lilley and Stringer are well-known for their climate scepticism. Last July, they were the only two MPs to vote against the Energy and Climate Change Committee’s acceptance of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) conclusion that humans are the dominant cause of global warming.
Both Lilley and Stringer are well-known for their climate scepticism. Last July, they were the only two MPs to vote against the Energy and Climate Change Committee’s acceptance of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) conclusion that humans are the dominant cause of global warming.
Poor Dennis SkinnerWP has lost it, but think his motive is the anti capitalist ideology discussed already, whereby people vote against the EU because it is a capitalist club.
I don't think Stringer fits easily into that category however.
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At least one female Labour MP who was interviewed on the radio yesterday (don't think it was Kate Hoey but didn't catch the name) said that she was strongly pro-Brexit and so wanted the bill to pass so they could get on with the business of Brexit.
Did she explain what it was about Brexit that had caught her fancy?
No, I just caught a snippet on the Radio 6 news on the way back from the pool yesterday morning.
Interesting comments about Hammond's session with The Lords committee today:
"Hammond says the government wants a transition period similar to being in the customs union.
The obvious problem is that, if the UK were in the customs union, it would not be able to negotiate trade deals."
I wonder if the rest of the cabinet knows what he's saying?
Part of a rolling coverage of that kind of thing in The Guardian
"Hammond says the government wants a transition period similar to being in the customs union.
The obvious problem is that, if the UK were in the customs union, it would not be able to negotiate trade deals."
I wonder if the rest of the cabinet knows what he's saying?
Part of a rolling coverage of that kind of thing in The Guardian
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Correct. We'll get a chance to vote the Tories out of office in five years or less. Those countries remaining in the EU have no such opportunity to get rid of their lousy and corrupt leaders.I thought that one of the reasons why we wanted out of the EU was the (IMO imagined) democratic deficit.
abaddon
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Didn't realise that the French and Germans don't have elections. I think one of us has been misled.
Of course simply not voting for the Tories doesn't get them out of office either as Scotland has learned over the past few decades.
The usual Brexiteer "facts"
There are regular elections for members of the European parliament. Elections which are carried out using proportional representation, a far fairer system than FPTP.
I don't get to vote for either the UK head of state nor for any member of the House of Lords and a party can have a majority in the House of Commons and still attract less than 40% of the vote and a party which polls nearly 20% nationally can end up with no seats at all.
I still cannot see the EU democratic deficit.
I know Scots dislike the United Kingdom as they somehow feel that the minority of Scots should be able to trump the democratic majority vote of all the union countries combined.
But it's strange that they have no problem with unelected (by voters) leaders like Tusk and Junker.
But it's strange that they have no problem with unelected (by voters) leaders like Tusk and Junker.
abaddon
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You mean like the House of Lords who are not elected at all? Good ole English democracy, right?
I never claimed otherwise. It's because the EU wants to go in a different direction to the majority of UK voters, that the UK has sensibly made the decision to leave. The UK isn't demanding that the EU change its policies - we recognize that we're outvoted by the other European countries that have different views to our own, so we no longer want to be part of it.The usual Brexiteer "facts"
There are regular elections for members of the European parliament. Elections which are carried out using proportional representation, a far fairer system than FPTP.
I don't get to vote for either the UK head of state nor for any member of the House of Lords and a party can have a majority in the House of Commons and still attract less than 40% of the vote and a party which polls nearly 20% nationally can end up with no seats at all.
I still cannot see the EU democratic deficit.
It's exactly the same with the SNP wanting to leave the UK. The only difference is that a a majority of the UK did vote to leave the EU, while the majority of Scots voted in favour of remaining in the UK.
I'm against the unelected House of Lords. But you're letting your prejudice show again - it's the good ole English, Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish democracy that props up the good ole English, Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish House of Lords.
abaddon
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Guess again.
What do you mean?
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