Merged Discussions of Hate Speech and the First Amendment

[PhantomWolf]

You can't see any difference between pedophiles and white supremacists?

On the scale of things, I'd put those wanting to have sex with kids and those wanting to genocide or enslave anyone with the wrong skin colour pretty close together on the bottom of the basket of Deplorables, wouldn't you?

 

[John Jones]

What is the difference?

I don't think you'd understand.

 

[John Jones]

On the scale of things, I'd put those wanting to have sex with kids and those wanting to genocide or enslave anyone with the wrong skin colour pretty close together on the bottom of the basket of Deplorables, wouldn't you?

No way am I taking that bait.

 

[BobTheCoward]

I don't think you'd understand.

You are the one making claims and refuse to answer the simplest questions about them?

 

[Jerrymander]

You can't see any difference between pedophiles and white supremacists?

In terms of the morality of their beliefs? No.

 

[John Jones]

You are the one making claims and refuse to answer the simplest questions about them?

Which claim?

FTR, I feel no obligation to humor people being coy.

 

[John Jones]

In terms of the morality of their beliefs? No.

Got it. You see no difference.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Which claim?

FTR, I feel no obligation to humor people being coy.

I'm not being coy. There is no way to more directly ask the question than what I said.

 

[Jerrymander]

Got it. You see no difference.

Got it. You think "peaceful ethnic cleansing" is more moral.

 

[Stacko]

No to NAMBLA, yes to white supremacists? Why?

White supremacists are currently a reliable Republican voting block?

 

[John Jones]

Got it. You think "peaceful ethnic cleansing" is more moral.

How do you figure that?

 

[Brainster]

Is there really a lot of talk about letting white nationalists have a platform?

 

[Jerrymander]

How do you know?

I asked why do you think we should allow platforms for white supremacist and not pedophiles. You answered with "do you not see the difference (paraphrase)". I relied "No" from a moral perceptive and you responded with "Got it. You see no difference". So apparently you see a moral difference.

 

[Jerrymander]

Is there really a lot of talk about letting white nationalists have a platform?

Yes.

 

[xjx388]

White Supremacists, NAMBLA, Neo-Nazis . . . all these vile scum have the right to speak publicly on their views.

 

[Garrison]

Yes. Of Course...unless they turn violent in which case throw their butts in jail.
This is becoming a very dangerous trend on both sides in the US.....wanting to suppress your political foes.

I'm sorry but violence is at the very core of National Socialist ideology. The moment someone starts waving a Swastika and chanting 'blood and soil' they've embraced violence. When these people start spewing their hatred they aren't looking for a conversation or a debate. You don't let people yell 'fire' in a crowded theatre, you don't let pedophiles post videos of naked children on Youtube and I don't think people who simply want to use 'free speech' to harass and terrorize others should be allowed to do so without consequence. I come back again to the relatives of those who died at Sandy Hook and have faced seemingly endless harassment from 'False Flag' kooks Are you really saying that their right to mourn and go on with their lives in peace is worth less than the right of some conspiracy theorist to make their lives miserable by claiming their loss never happened?

 

[xjx388]

double.

 

[casebro]

What is the difference?

One group wants whites on top.

The other group wants to be on top of children.

Personally, I'll settle for white equality, not racial discrimination.

 

[casebro]

Discussions about whether universities should allow white supremacists to have a platform is popular these days. However, I have to ask, what about someone from NAMBLA? How many people would defend them having a platform?

Free speech advocate Milo Yiannopoulos criticized Salon publishing an article written by a pedophile. This pedophile did not try to justify relationships between adults and children but argued that the hysteria over pedophiles only makes it harder for pedophiles to come out and get the help they need, thereby putting children more at risk. Certainly that could be an interesting discussion for defenders of the free exchange of ideas.

In another twist of irony, Milo himself would be disinvited from conservative circles for his own comments. Apparently, attacking transgender people is free speech, but suggesting that 14 year olds can consent to sex with adults is crossing the line for these people.

Yes, we do have limits to the free exchange of ideas.

You were talking about this forum weren't you?

 

[theprestige]

Both. Now what's your answer.

The questions in sermons are rhetorical. You don't need my answer, and you offer me nothing of value in exchange.