Ed Dueling protests spark state of emergency in Virginia.

uke2se said:
I care that the Nazis are Nazis. Are you with them or against them?
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I accept all humans as humans and try not to hate. For that doesn't follow if I agree with them or not.
So you want to fight the tribe of Nazis by going tribal on them?
 
Tommy Jeppesen said:
I accept all humans as humans and try not to hate. For that doesn't follow if I agree with them or not.
So you want to fight the tribe of Nazis by going tribal on them?
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They are looking to overthrow Democracy, and they have a friend in the White House. Last time they were in power hundreds of millions of people died.

Are you with the Nazis or against the Nazis?

ETA: This really shouldn't be a hard question to answer.
 
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Tommy Jeppesen said:
No, there are 3 sides. You are so into us versus them, that you can't see that there are 3 sides.

Hard-right: All not really with us are not really humans and we hate them.
Hard-left: All not really with us are not really humans and we hate them.
Moderate: Do you really need to hate?

All versions of hard-X have in common the hate against them.
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There are Right and Left that are not hard. At Charlottesville, since the hard Right started the rally, we can be pretty sure they were most of the Right that was present. I see no evidence that the counter protesters were all or even most or significantly hard Left.
 
Foolmewunz said:
We're discussing a neo-nazi who ran someone down with his car and the enablers and apologists who are avoiding addressing the issue.

How do you feel about it, dawg?
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No actually we are not, we are talking about "dueling protests" and now some have the misguided notion that the antifa and Black Bloc are the "good guys" despite the obvious fact that they came to Virginia, Berkeley, Texas, Seattle, etc to brawl and do violence.

/ btw; Don't misuse my forum name.
 
Okay, we versus them. We win. Then what?
We won the Civil War and WWII and yet we are still at it. So if we win, what about the peace?
 
Tommy Jeppesen said:
So what is the narrative?

That there are only 2 sides and all on the side against alt-right are good?

That we shouldn't care about the alt-right as they are not really humans and they could all die and we shouldn't care?

What? How much hate do you demand of me for me to qualify to be on your side?
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I will answer this right after the next time an islamist terrorist strikes, and Trump reminds us that there are bad people on the white, anglosaxon christian side, too.
 
The Big Dog said:
No actually we are not, we are talking about "dueling protests" and now some have the misguided notion that the antifa and Black Bloc are the "good guys" despite the obvious fact that they came to Virginia, Berkeley, Texas, Seattle, etc to brawl and do violence.

/ btw; Don't misuse my forum name.
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Yes, I would like both sides to stop and all live like "We, the People". Do you got another idea of who people are or are not?
 
Tommy Jeppesen said:
Yes, I would like both sides to stop and all live like "We, the People". Do you got another idea of who people are or are not?
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Certainly, the groups like the ACLU who fight for the right of the "alt-right" to assemble and speak despite strongly disagreeing with the content of their message.

The "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" group.
 
The Big Dog said:
No actually we are not, we are talking about "dueling protests" and now some have the misguided notion that the antifa and Black Bloc are the "good guys" despite the obvious fact that they came to Virginia, Berkeley, Texas, Seattle, etc to brawl and do violence.

/ btw; Don't misuse my forum name.
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Antifa = Anti Fascist. In other words, REAL AMERICANS.
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The Big Dog said:
Certainly, the groups like the ACLU who fight for the right of the "alt-right" to assemble and speak despite strongly disagreeing with the content of their message.

The "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" group.
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Okay, here is an idea.
Left versus "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" versus right.
You speak out against the right and I will take on the left and then we will meet in the middle as moderates.
 
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