Ed Dueling protests spark state of emergency in Virginia.

You'd think with all the violence and drama in the news that everyone in the US have lost their minds. But when I walk down the street, or go out somewhere, I don't see it.

I don't see people desperately trying to convince each other that we should hate blacks, or whites. I don't see the militia out in their pickup trucks threatening people, and I don't see Black Lives Matter doing what they do.

I go to the store, have pleasant conversations with everyone there, black, white, Mexican, Muslim and it's good. I live in a smaller town now and it's so much nicer.

As upset as I let the news get me - and I bet I'm not the only one riled up every day - there really isn't much to see out in the real world. The loud immature idiots get the attention while the rest of us look on.

I mean you'd think blacks and whites are fighting in the streets everywhere you go. But most people are just getting on with their lives. There are pockets of serious problems to be sure, but for the rest of us it's just something on TV that we can get upset about.

Neither the Aniti-fa or these nazis represent most people, yet we seem to get fooled into thinking that they do. They get all the attention because the news media wants to make money, not because it's actually important.

What these extreme groups want and say is not news. It's TV drama! Why do I get suckered into this? This thread and these protests and marches by these extreme groups is a waste of time to even discuss.
 
shemp said:
Fox News says Trump to speak at 3.
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A short someone-else-written spiel that we all need to get along, not one word about the alt-right or hate groups or the fact they'd be going off the rails if that had been a Muslim driving a car into a crowd... and then on to the pre-planned propaganda about what Trump is doing for the Vets. I turned it off at that point.

Charlottesville mayor reports one dead.
 
Aepervius said:
. That is why it is not rethorical. You should always make sure only the violence is stopped, not the protest. If the protest is 100% organized violence then yes you should stop it. But I am betting that even if they organized that, if they have half the brain cell the local black shirt we protested against, they had a whole major slice of the protest being non violent, so that they can pretend to to be suppressed.
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Only if it's "100% organized violence"? Really?
 
trustbutverify said:
He can't afford to alienate the Nazi vote at this point.
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I just can't believe that we are typing these things about the *********** PRESIDENT OF THE *********** UNITED STATES :mad:

Bannon, Gorka, Miller, hell, Trump himself. How the **** did we get Nazis in the White House?

ETA I Know how, just can't believe it still....
 
mgidm86 said:
There's video of it happening at ChildlikeEmpress' link above. I don't know about "bodies flying".....
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There is a video of at least one body flying over the middle car, landing on the hood. Looks like he's lucky the perp car knocked him up and over instead of crushing him between the perp and middle cars.


mgidm86 said:
* When we showed up at the park, the cops began attacking us, tear gassing and beating people, declaring an unlawful assembly
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We'll see about that claim.
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Don't know about last night when the thing began with a torch carrying parade, but this morning there was a whole lot of fighting between both sides, including pepper spraying each other and smacking each other with sticks before the cops moved in to clear the park. Mostly the cops stood around at first.
 
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Aepervius said:
I dunno. I thought protest were fine in the US. Now I read this was declared a "unlawful assembly" ? Even the UK abolished that 30 years ago.
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When two groups of protestors begin physically fighting each other, yes, it is time to end the protest. Nothing to do with free speech.
 
Jim_MDP said:
Are you buying it?
That account is rather thin... and one sided.

Considering half their wet dreams appear to be throwing beatdowns on brown people, and cops/Gov't... that all reads rather snowflake-ish. :rolleyes:

LOL. :D
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It's the script of every out-of-control protest, permit or not, left, right, or otherwise.

"We are blameless! All other participants are savages bent on cruelty and fueled by spite!"

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Aepervius said:
I dunno. I thought protest were fine in the US. Now I read this was declared a "unlawful assembly" ? Even the UK abolished that 30 years ago.
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The most illustrative retort to that I have heard so far is: "excuse me, do you have a permit for that information? Please step over this way, sir..."

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dudalb said:
Nice exercise in semantics. The only time the Unlawful Assembly is declared is when a protest is turning into a riot.
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Yes, unlike every other tool of power in history, this one has never been invoked for unethical reasons.

While in this case and certainly many others, it seems right to have done so, that's an absurd generalization.

It would be fair to say that's what it is for. But I've personally witnessed otherwise on half a dozen occasions in multiple cities.

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mgidm86 said:
You'd think with all the violence and drama in the news that everyone in the US have lost their minds. But when I walk down the street, or go out somewhere, I don't see it.

I don't see people desperately trying to convince each other that we should hate blacks, or whites. I don't see the militia out in their pickup trucks threatening people, and I don't see Black Lives Matter doing what they do.

I go to the store, have pleasant conversations with everyone there, black, white, Mexican, Muslim and it's good. I live in a smaller town now and it's so much nicer.

As upset as I let the news get me - and I bet I'm not the only one riled up every day - there really isn't much to see out in the real world. The loud immature idiots get the attention while the rest of us look on.

I mean you'd think blacks and whites are fighting in the streets everywhere you go. But most people are just getting on with their lives. There are pockets of serious problems to be sure, but for the rest of us it's just something on TV that we can get upset about.

Neither the Aniti-fa or these nazis represent most people, yet we seem to get fooled into thinking that they do. They get all the attention because the news media wants to make money, not because it's actually important.

What these extreme groups want and say is not news. It's TV drama! Why do I get suckered into this? This thread and these protests and marches by these extreme groups is a waste of time to even discuss.
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Just out of curiosity, how does this compare to your reaction to a terrorist attack like the Boston Marathon bombing?

Do you even remember the Centennial Olympic Park bombing? That was a pro-lifer perp. I'm guessing that didn't concern you much.
 
tyr_13 said:
Don't worry, the conservatives will be around to blame the left-wing rioters from earlier even if they were condemned by vast portions of the left already.
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Which left-wing rioters and which portions of the left condemned them?
 
3 IWW members got killed apparently.

ETA: They're the "antifascist red and black" types so they were "condemned" by some "left" or something anyway.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
When two groups of protestors begin physically fighting each other, yes, it is time to end the protest. Nothing to do with free speech.
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Yeah, and there's a prima facia case to be made that showing up with clubs and shields does not indicate a peaceful assembly which is what they have a legal right to.
 
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