Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[bruto]

If you are on a life raft in the see and you just see the waves you will have less quality of life than seeing also the land beyond the waves.

What is the use of "squeezing" every opportunity to enrich your life while there will soon be no life.

But if you know you will have the benefit in the future of "squeezing" every opportunity then it is worth it.

That would be fine if it were true, but if you are on a life raft in the sea and waves are all there is to see, then imagining land will not save you. If anything, jumping in to swim to land that is not there will add frustration.

You make the huge and insurmountable mistake that so many theists and believers make, in imagining that belief is optional. It is not, at least for many. I'm reminded of Madame Blavatsky's (or it might have been Annie Besant's - I get them confused - but it could easily be both) argument for reincarnation, which boiled down to the observation that it would be nicer if true. To decide what is true on the basis of something other than evidence that it's true is a mental shortcut not everyone enjoys.

The use of squeezing opportunity into one's life is simply that that is what life is about. Life is about living while you're alive and leaving society a little better when you go. If you don't believe there is an afterlife, it does not matter a whit what you wish.

 

[Johanabrahams]

What makes you think I would want or even value a relationship with you? You offer me nothing but a momentary diversion and you aren't the only source for those.

I know you. And I know that you exist without Gods Love. So I know what you are talking about. I have been there too. But because I am graceful I Love you even though I am but a "momentary diversion". This Love has the ability to give you a superior Life. Much more worth than finding only a "momentary diversion" in human beings.

All around you are human beings. Opportunities to life live Godly. Superior. To love them and be part of them. To have relationships. To support and enjoy them. To grow together through mistakes to become more and better in growing more quality relationships. But unfortunately to you just "momentary diversions". This is inferior human life.

I am calling you higher. With Love. Love which exists even in the face of you being what you are. Me just a "momentary diversion". But a Love that has the ability to enrich your Live. As I asked in the beginning. Can you live life to its fullest without Godly Love. Impossible. This you see now because to you it is but a "momentary diversion".

To me on the other hand this is an opportunity taken. I am living my Live on a higher level even faced with your lack because of my Godly character and in this case specially Grace. Grace which results in Love to the unworthy.

Yep I love you. That is grace. Because to you I am but a "momentary diversion". Giving you some joy in the insident which you would not have had if it was not for me. But I feel sorry for you. Because this joy is in the creation of God. It will pass soon. And then the emptiness. And then you will have to seek for another "momentary diversion". As for me. I am Joy. That is why I can give it. But I am much more than that. I am Grace and Love even to you.

This gives the opportunity to rise above yourself. Because you are created with the ability to be more than yourself. I give you that. But it is your choice. I have hope too. Hope that you will take it.

 

[Johanabrahams]

I've seen what happens in Africa when desperate, uneducated people live in the Grace of your kind.

Tell us more of what you have seen.

Yes, your kind; the likes of you are depressingly typical.

Yep. To reject Love and Grace will bring the opposite. Depression.

I have no use for your grace and the people you dupe don't either.

I hope you will choose against "depression"

Tell me, do you just take their money?

I sold everything I worked for and distributed it to the poor in Nkqubela. After that I am giving my hands now. For free. I take no money for my work every day. This work is in serving these people from seven in the morning till eight at night seven days a week for free.

Here in Nkqubela they experience this. They live in this reality. Many call me God. Many call me Jesus. But the most call me Father. I am teaching them now that I am Mother and God is Father. His power and Love brought me to this Lifestyle.

They happily provide me with what I need and try to keep me alive as long as possible. They provide me with secondhand clothes and food only. That is all I need.

God teaches to only take what you need and to be a servant with the rest.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Define gossip, according to the your bible please.

After a cursory reading of the thread, 'lucky' is not how I would describe my feeling for your kind of guidance.

Seems the problem is the "cursory reading".

 

[abaddon]

I would say: There is nothing to "figure out" there.

Of course you would. You are unable to demonstrate that any god exists. And this is the fundamental of atheism. When anyone can demonstrate the existence of some deity, sure, I would accept such. As things stand, no theist has done so. Or is even able to attempt to do so. Your claim is fractally wrong. You claim to actually BE god. Or a mother. Or ...something even more bizarre.

The simple fact is that I am divorced just like you. I choose to move right along because fault may be laid on both sides and it is not for me to lay judgment either way. You seem to have decided that outright crankery is the only way to go, everyone is wrong but you. This is not a route that will in any way help you.

 

[Johanabrahams]

It's 'Abaddon'. you can see it right there in your quoted post.

Thanks. To lend a helping hand is elevating the soul.

It's even in the bible so I don't know how you're making the error.

There I can help again. I originally was human being and much of that species are still part of my life. Making errors has not yet totally disappeared.

We can cross omniscient off the list.

Yep. I am not there yet. We start as children of God and growing up in what He is. As a child and further we are not fully God yet.

Quiet day in Robertson, I guess.

What gave you that impression?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Why does it follow that a god has authority to govern? I don't recall a god ever submitting a legislative agenda for my approval. When did I or anyone else give consent for a god to govern?

God has always govern. You just didn't notice it. He governs by the Truth. As He reveals Truth He also establishes it. Take for instance slavery. He first revealed it as wrong and then established a live without it. Here in South Africa He just recently revealed that "apartheid" is wrong and then established life without it.

Now you can be part of this revealing and establishing. Or you can just wondered what happened.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Creepy! I don't think anyone really needs a co-dependent stalker god with control issues.

I agree.

But I am witnessing about another God. This God is a God of wisdom.

He gives wisdom to whoever wants it. By this such a person will see and teach on what is wrong. And then He gives wisdom to bring about the changes to whoever wants it. These changes will be according to the wisdom that others has already opened to the "ignorant" human beings. Others will just "wonder what happened".

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I agree.

But I am witnessing about another God. This God is a God of wisdom.

He gives wisdom to whoever wants it. By this such a person will see and teach on what is wrong. And then He gives wisdom to bring about the changes to whoever wants it. These changes will be according to the wisdom that others has already opened to the "ignorant" human beings. Others will just "wonder what happened".

Sounds a lot; RE: (is) like you're just making **** up as you go.

 

[Border Reiver]

If you are on a life raft in the see and you just see the waves you will have less quality of life than seeing also the land beyond the waves.



What is the use of "squeezing" every opportunity to enrich your life while there will soon be no life.



But if you know you will have the benefit in the future of "squeezing" every opportunity then it is worth it.

Assumes facts not in evidence. There is no evidence of any life beyond this one.

 

[Dancing David]

God has always govern. You just didn't notice it. He governs by the Truth. As He reveals Truth He also establishes it. Take for instance slavery. He first revealed it as wrong and then established a live without it. Here in South Africa He just recently revealed that "apartheid" is wrong and then established life without it.

Now you can be part of this revealing and establishing. Or you can just wondered what happened.

I wonder why they didn't reveal that apartheid was wrong in 1948?

Why wait so long?

 

[Pixel42]

You don't need a revelation to tell you that slavery and apartheid are wrong, just basic human decency.

 

[Craig4]

God has always govern. You just didn't notice it. He governs by the Truth. As He reveals Truth He also establishes it. Take for instance slavery. He first revealed it as wrong and then established a live without it. Here in South Africa He just recently revealed that "apartheid" is wrong and then established life without it.

Now you can be part of this revealing and establishing. Or you can just wondered what happened.

Then why is it you people never say the same thing? Africa is infested with prophets who all claim to to have a monopoly on the truth. Get in line.

 

[Craig4]

Tell us more of what you have seen.



Yep. To reject Love and Grace will bring the opposite. Depression.



I hope you will choose against "depression"



I sold everything I worked for and distributed it to the poor in Nkqubela. After that I am giving my hands now. For free. I take no money for my work every day. This work is in serving these people from seven in the morning till eight at night seven days a week for free.

Here in Nkqubela they experience this. They live in this reality. Many call me God. Many call me Jesus. But the most call me Father. I am teaching them now that I am Mother and God is Father. His power and Love brought me to this Lifestyle.

They happily provide me with what I need and try to keep me alive as long as possible. They provide me with secondhand clothes and food only. That is all I need.

God teaches to only take what you need and to be a servant with the rest.

I've negotiated coexistence agreements with Balaka and Selka in CAR. Served in South Sudan and the DR Congo and met all the prophets there. I've met a few preachers in Botswana. I know what your kind bring and shame on you for it. If you had any decency you'd take you sick false piety and go home.

 

[Craig4]

I wonder why they didn't reveal that apartheid was wrong in 1948?

Why wait so long?

That's just it, many church groups got this "revelation" long before 1948. William Wilberforce f the Church of England got the revelation in 1785, two centuries before our resident goddess here got it. Quakers in the Americas got it even before that. Funny how the Reform Dutch Church saw the light after the fall of the Berlin Wall and no one needed South Africa to stop Communists in Angola.

 

[abaddon]

You don't need a revelation to tell you that slavery and apartheid are wrong, just basic human decency.

But one does need a bible to say it is OK.

 

[The Norseman]

What about those people in some African villages who go by the holy bible and literally burn people to death for "witchcraft" as their book commands?

I've seen videos of it happening and it's sickening. It's unbelievable that it still happens in Christian communities in this day and age, but it has.

Is that okay with you, god? It's your command, after all.

 

[Beady]

Now take a look at my "example" which is the result of Love. I love you enough to tell you who I am...

No, you love yourself enough to tell me who you are. You love yourself so much that you absolutely insist on telling me who you are. Modesty is not part of your nature; you are the most important thing you know of, and you want to ensure that we all know it.

And look at what was the result. My life vs a "boil" Amazing!

Yup. A real shot to the ego, isn't it?

This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[TofuFighter]

Then why is it you people never say the same thing? Africa is infested with prophets who all claim to to have a monopoly on the truth. Get in line.

You should have a gander at Pastor Joshua if you haven't already. Charlatan of the highest order.

Then the guy who uses insect repellent to drive out demons, or the guy who fed snakes to his congregants, or the guy who makes his followers strip and then stomps on them to demonstrate god's power

Those just off the top of my head, although to be honest, I'm not sure that this 'i am god/mother' routine is any better.

 

[TofuFighter]

I sold everything I worked for and distributed it to the poor in Nkqubela. After that I am giving my hands now. For free. I take no money for my work every day. This work is in serving these people from seven in the morning till eight at night seven days a week for free.

Doing what? as a barman in a shebeen selling alcohol to lifelong alcoholics?