Split Thread Weather and other science stuff (split from "Tornado Theory")

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Bruce Voigt said:
If you head out to-day looking for a dust devil you won't find it but next time you see one take note to its swirling direction. If this baby tornado is turning clockwise your weather person will be advising of high pressure. Counter clockwise and you will be in a low-pressure area.
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Nonsense; I have seen dust devils within a few tens of meters from one another spinning in both directions.

While an air cell is expanded its nuclei are of a size that does not interact with the sun's radiation and little light is produced leaving a dark cloud (black).
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Stuff like this gives gibberish a bad name.

The vortex of energy released from the earth has now mutated to a size as to interact with gravity and air, returning to earth as a destructive tornado.
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Not too conversant with basic meteorology, are we, now?
 
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Bruce Voigt said:
Subject: cancer





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Bruce, your reply in no way addressed my post and you were unable to make yourself understood by Tammy with the NCI. There seems to be a theme developing here.
 
Bruce Voigt said:
Validation is sweet :)
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A fantasy is never sweet. Citing a crank web site (mercola) does not show that a crank and ignorant claim of curing cancer is correct :jaw-dropp!
A delusion about "orbiting nuclei" in cancer cells.
A fantasy about your "Magic Magee " device and "nuclei orbital speeds".
The idiocy that skin cannot heal itself ("Burn and Cure" is burning someone and watching the burns heal!).
More "fast orbit nuclei" and cells feeding gibberish.
Nails and hair may appear to keep growing, but this is because flesh shrinks as it dries out, retracting the skin to make the nails and hair appear longer.
The delusion that people die because cancer removes fat ("body is robbed of its fat"). Lung cancer kills because it damages the lungs so much that a person cannot absorb enough oxygen to survive,. How brin cancer kills is obvious. Many cancers kill because they poison the body. How can cancer kill you?

This is Mercola lying about a paper. The paper is Neoadjuvant chemotherapy induces breast cancer metastasis through a TMEM-mediated mechanism. This is the relatively uncommon use of chemotherapy before surgery to reduce the size of tumors. The surgery is followed by chemotherapy to remove any remaining cancer cells. That also removes what the researchers found - the orders of magnitude less than the tumer cancer cell metastasis around the ex-tumor site.
Note that the researchers did not do that last step with their mice.

Mercola lies by omission. The authors found "metastasis through a TMEM-mediated mechanism" in their mice and also a solution to the problem :eye-poppi! The drug rebastinib "can interfere with TMEM activity and help overcome the increased risk of cancer cell dissemination.". There are other TMEM inhibitors.

More fully and better explained at Science Based Medicine: Does chemotherapy cause cancer to spread?
 
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Bruce Voigt said:
Aura, Immature air, spirit what ever called is going to power your car and I can visualize eyes rolling so let me try and put it in a more exceptable prospective.

Any one who has experienced Earthquake, Tornado etc knows the power of energy, you all have seen the anvil at the top of a Cumulonimbus cloud and know of the energy this cloud can produce. You have heard the phrase a hundred times (oh if we could only harness the energy of just one of its lightning bolts.) Well you can't and never will but we can harness the immature energy that mutates to produce this said lightning bolt.

Meteorology will have to start looking down instead of up because it's the Earth not the sky that produces weather. Let me help you get your head out of the clouds by starting from the top.

It will take many pages to properly explain the anvil that tops this cumulonimbus cloud but in a thumb nail sketch and getting you out of the clouds think of a child skipping rope. As the rope makes contact with the ground the U at its bottom is distorted. Now picture this child skipping upside down, it's this contact that shapes the anvil. Still upside down, picture the two handles of this skipping rope or rod of energy, one handle having what's known as a high pressure area and the other a low.

So simply it's a rod of Earth energy in that upside down U that produces the weather of a cumulonimbus storm cloud.
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again Validation is Sweet
How your t-shirt could charge your phone - http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/geoe...our-t-shirt-could-charge-your-phone-1.4225774
 
Bruce Voigt said:
again Validation is Sweet
How your t-shirt could charge your phone - http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/geoe...our-t-shirt-could-charge-your-phone-1.4225774
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A: theoretically possible, but not yet commercially viable. Likely will be in the not too distant.
B: OMG are you that far behind current tech? this is out for years.
C: It validates none of your bat-crap notions in any way shape or form.
D: it is entirely off topic for this thread.
E: why are you so desperate to avoid the topic at hand?
 
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There's a topic? :eye-poppi
Is it "Post responses to my non-sequiturs"? :D
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Most valuable are train right of ways, their ties and rails have rotted. Think tubes.
BIG TUBES
Scenario;
We apologize for the short departure delay as oil pipe section 436 required attention. Edmonton's fast tube service will have you embarking in Calgary in just a few minutes. To deal with the g-force you will experience feelings much the same as a roller coaster as we drop and curve into the air stream. Your luggage will be at tube 1A, freight at 2B Thank you for tubing Air Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/what-is-a-hyperloop-1.4216469
 
Bruce Voigt said:
Most valuable are train right of ways, their ties and rails have rotted. Think tubes.
BIG TUBES
Scenario;
We apologize for the short departure delay as oil pipe section 436 required attention. Edmonton's fast tube service will have you embarking in Calgary in just a few minutes. To deal with the g-force you will experience feelings much the same as a roller coaster as we drop and curve into the air stream. Your luggage will be at tube 1A, freight at 2B Thank you for tubing Air Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/what-is-a-hyperloop-1.4216469
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A: That is flat out incoherent.

and

B: The idea of such mass transit systems based on such tubes is old hat. I have no idea why you think it is new, novel or anything remarkable. Even the wiki page has been up for 12 years and the concept itself dates back to the 1960s.
 
Bruce Voigt: A fantasy that a t-shirt could charge your phone

Bruce Voigt said:
again Validation is Sweet
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A lie and fantasy is never sweet.
31 July 2017 Bruce Voigt: Citing a crank web site (mercola) does not show that a crank and ignorant claim of curing cancer is correct.
31 July 2017 Bruce Voigt: A fantasy that a t-shirt could charge your phone is about your incoherent post.

Repeating fantasies from another thread is never sweet.
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Bruce Voigt said:
If you head out to-day looking for a dust devil you won't find it...
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Why not?



Bruce Voigt said:
...but next time you see one take note to its swirling direction. If this baby tornado is turning clockwise your weather person will be advising of high pressure. Counter clockwise and you will be in a low-pressure area.
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Sorry, I don't have a "weather person" but do have a barometer. As already noted by Peregrinus I too have seen dust devils spinning opposite ways in the same general area.

Bruce Voigt said:
While an air cell is expanded its nuclei are of a size that does not interact with the sun's radiation and little light is produced leaving a dark cloud (black). The vortex of energy released from the earth has now mutated to a size as to interact with gravity and air, returning to earth as a destructive tornado.
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"vortex of energy released from the earth" that is "now mutated"? That's not even a halfway decent Sfi-fi or fantasy story let alone anything to do with meteorology. Anywho, it doesn't have to " interact with the sun's radiation" as that's where the driving energy for our weather comes from, so the interacting (of the Earth and or air) "with the sun's radiation" was already done before your asserted vortexual release and mutation.

Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) not interact with the air? Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) that carries dirt (Earth), a dust devil, not interact with the, well, Earth?
 
Bruce Voigt said:
If you head out to-day looking for a dust devil you won't find it...
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Why not?



Bruce Voigt said:
...but next time you see one take note to its swirling direction. If this baby tornado is turning clockwise your weather person will be advising of high pressure. Counter clockwise and you will be in a low-pressure area.
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Sorry, I don't have a "weather person" but do have a barometer. As already noted by Peregrinus I too have seen dust devil
spinning opposite was in the same general area.

Bruce Voigt said:
While an air cell is expanded its nuclei are of a size that does not interact with the sun's radiation and little light is produced leaving a dark cloud (black). The vortex of energy released from the earth has now mutated to a size as to interact with gravity and air, returning to earth as a destructive tornado.
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"vortex of energy released from the earth" that is "now mutated"? That's not even a halfway decent Sfi-fi or fantasy story let alone anything to do with meteorology. Anywho, it doesn't have to " interact with the sun's radiation" as that's where the driving energy for our weather comes from, so the interacting (of the Earth and or air) "with the sun's radiation" was already done before your asserted vortexual release and mutation.

Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) not interact with the air? Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) that carries dirt (Earth), a dust devil, not interact with the, well, Earth?
 
Bruce Voigt: Touts an insane crank and irrelevant "hollow earth" web site

Bruce Voigt said:
thehollowearthinsider
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1 August 2017 Bruce Voigt: Touts an insane crank and more importantly totally irrelevant "hollow earth" web site!

The question was:
The Man said:
Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) not interact with the air? Exactly how does a "vortex" in the air (of any size) that carries dirt (Earth), a dust devil, not interact with the, well, Earth?
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Bruce Voigt said:
http://thehollowearthinsider.com/archives/23301
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"thehollowearthinsider"? What has a hollow earth to do with preventing me from finding a dust devil today if I look for one? How does a hollow earth prevent a swirl of air that has picked up dirt (Earth), becoming a dust devil, from interacting with the Earth since by the very meaning of the term "dust devil" in has already interacted with the Earth?

I will caution you not to edit quotes without indicating what you have changed and perhaps why.
 
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Jody Banks18 hours
Bruce Voigt hey at least your trying to explain while the idiots shoot your theory down. Me I thought it was very solid and good explanation of what we know at this point in our existence and even some of what we don't know ! Good job . Don't let anyone shoot down your ��

Bruce Voigt17 hours ago
Jody thank you and just to let you know how smart I am. Years ago not knowing modern tech started my disclosures on a skeptics forum! :)
 
Bruce Voigt said:
Google - bruce voigt fire ...
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3 August 2017 Bruce Voigt: An ignorant and irrelevant request to do a Google search designed to waste our time!
You know how post links :eye-poppi.
For everyone's information - do that Google and the first few entries are inane posts on a Facebook page of a Bruce Voigt, e.g. the ignorant gibberish of "Like every cell, molecule, quark, planet, moon or star incorporates a black hole at its nucleus", "All cells of earth have fire at their nucleus", "comet, asteroid, earth and yes also the sun as fire is at the nucleus of all these".

3 August 2017 Bruce Voigt: An irrelevant remark and arrogant reply from what looks comments on a blog.
A "Jody Banks" encourages what may be any of several of your fantasies.
An ex-pilot with no medical experience claiming to cure all disease including cancer with no evidence of even one person being treated or cured, e.g. of cancer?
That the world is hollow (as per your last link)?
Incoherent fantasies about a "vortex of energy" and tornadoes?
The fantasy that an irrelevant link to the crank Mercola web site supports a crank claim to cure cancer?

Given the incoherent and ignorant posts in this thread alone Jody is wrong about any "good explanation of what we know", etc. You show little knowledge of tornados and their physics or weather and its physics which is strange for someone who claims to have been a pilot.
 
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