General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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carlitos said:
Jews are the "most conspicuous racial minority" in Europe? What is that I don't even.
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Yes that is an odd comment indeed - the person who said that shows an extremely obsessive fear and paranoia over and about 'Jews'.
 
Hans said:
No it was that Park Ranger guy. I think his name was Moshe Green, aka 'Ranger Smith' yeah right!

[qimg]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/RangerSmith.png[/qimg]

Note the evil camouflaged Zionist symbol on his sleeve!!!
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Very astute! I didn't pick up on the clues!

I did pick up on Yogi's pronunciation of pic-e-nic basket to be a tell towards his bearish jewish ancestry.
 
Mondial said:
There is a debate going on between revisionist Hannover @ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust and anti revisionist Roberto Muehlenkamp from Holocaust Controversies -

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11223

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11226

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11231
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Not much of a debate, Hannover makes accusations, Roberto refutes them, Hannover and the rest ignore what Roberto says in favour of strawman.
 
I am reading "Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy" by Eric Metaxas. It is the non-fiction story of a German pastor who saw Hitler and the Nazis coming a mile away. He ended up in the grave for his trouble after having first protested against the Nazis for their take over of German churches then eventually plotting to kill Hitler.

It is noted in this book (and other places) that in the early years of the Third Reich the Nazis often showed a kinder PR face to the world playing down their evil intentions. In some cases Hitler and Goebbels actively mis-stated their intentions so as to be more palatable to the German and international publics.

It is perfectly possible for a denier to lift some of these phony PR quotes from the record and repeat them so as to make it seem Hitler and the Nazis weren't so bad after all.
 
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arayder said:
It is noted in this book (and other places) that in the early years of the Third Reich the Nazis often showed a kinder PR face to the world playing down their evil intentions. In some cases Hitler and Goebbels actively mis-stated their intentions so as to be more palatable to the German and international publics.
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And there was also the fact that most of the world still remembered WWI, and sincerely felt sorry for the Germans for the Versailles treaty. The latter resulted in attempts to alleviate the harsher effects of the VT via the Dawes and Young Plans, and massive capital investment by the US in Germany in the 20s and early 30s. The former was also the reason for the appeasement carried out by the British in the latter half of the 30s.

No one wanted any war, except for the Nazis, and everyone else literally tried bending over backwards to appease them and prevent war. While the clause in Versailles assigning all of the guilt for starting WWI on the German empire was inaccurate and unfair, it's entirely justified and factually correct to assign the responsibility for starting WWII on Nazi Germany, despite what some idiots here would like to think.
 
Mondial said:
There is a debate going on between revisionist Hannover @ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust and anti revisionist Roberto Muehlenkamp from Holocaust Controversies -
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11223
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11226
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11231
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Sigh! I see that I am being spammed with the NAFCASH challenge there as well!!! From the first link above, half way down the page and "CWhite" is asking Roberto "do you deny that your buddy "Nessie" has answered the following questions with the following answers...."

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11223#p84363

I don't bother posting on CODOH, so did not know about that. On RODOH there are now five threads on page 1 alone, where I am being spammed and an attempt is being made to bully me into continuing with NAFCASH.

I e-mailed Greg Gerdes a while back asking for details about the so called "National Association of Forensic Historians", members, qualifications, association rules etc. He just replied with abuse and a refusal to give any information.

I presume Gerdes has something on Hannover at CODOH and Scott/Depth Check at RODOH, that they let him repeatedly post multiple yes/no questions.

It is weird that a clearly hoax association is being a lot of publicity by denialist forums.
 
Yesterday French President Emmanuel Macron pronounced a speech at the occasion of the commemoration of the Vel'd'Hiv roundup, which took place 75 years ago in Paris.

In his speech he evoked the link between complot theories, racism and antisemitism:

Planetary complot theory, phantasms about global finance, insidious iconography, identity angers which mobilize the most toxic clichés: all this spreads at huge speed and reaches the most gullible or receptive minds. Racism and anti-Semitism can rely on never seen propaganda means in order to pursue their undermining work. Social networks are their great purveyors and we have not yet realized their influence in this respect. Our magistrates and law enforcement forces needs to be better trained to this. (free translation from http://www.conspiracywatch.info/raf...et-les-fantasmes-sur-la-finance-mondiale.html)
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Ivanesca said:
it's entirely justified and factually correct to assign the responsibility for starting WWII on Nazi Germany, ...
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This is beyond idiotic but it is cant in the west. The whole point of the Soviet-German non-aggression pact from the German side was to avoid a war with the west, which it desperately wanted to avoid, and offered to settle many times to be met with disdain and rejection from Churchill, a Zionist stooge, and other warmongers in Britian.

A few refs: google 'President Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe' to read about the machinations of Roosevelt and the Jews prior to the war.

Churchwill's War - Irving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqWLx8hSov4
When Churchill forged art, wrote for the western press, became an agent of the Jews

German vid - Who Was Really Responsible for WW II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZecpHAnX7Q
Antidote to 70 years of degenerate lies by the Jewish media ...
 
Saggy said:
This is beyond idiotic but it is cant in the west. The whole point of the Soviet-German non-aggression pact from the German side was to avoid a war with the west, which it desperately wanted to avoid, and offered to settle many times to be met with disdain and rejection from Churchill, a Zionist stooge, and other warmongers in Britian.

A few refs: google 'President Roosevelt's Campaign to Incite War in Europe' to read about the machinations of Roosevelt and the Jews prior to the war.

Churchwill's War - Irving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqWLx8hSov4
When Churchill forged art, wrote for the western press, became an agent of the Jews

German vid - Who Was Really Responsible for WW II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZecpHAnX7Q
Antidote to 70 years of degenerate lies by the Jewish media ...
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I guess that's why he invaded France less than a year after the SGNAP.
 
Saggy said:
This is beyond idiotic but it is cant in the west. The whole point of the Soviet-German non-aggression pact from the German side was to avoid a war with the west, which it desperately wanted to avoid, and offered to settle many times to be met with disdain and rejection from Churchill, a Zionist stooge, and other warmongers in Britian.
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You are aware that Churchill wasn't in power until after Germany invaded France? The policy was appeasement before then.

And who is this 'Zionist stooge' you list?

(It's Britain, by the way.)
 
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zooterkin said:
You are aware that Churchill wasn't in power until after Germany invaded France? The policy was appeasement before then.

And who is this 'Zionist stooge' you list?

(It's Britain, by the way.)
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Britian was a small independent duchy near Liechtenstein. They were by all accounts a bunch of REAL bastards. It was wiped out in 1942 when a lost Italian truck drove off the road and landed atop the small shed where the capital was located.

More seriously....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenbaum

German plans to invade Switzerland

Hitler further described Switzerland as "a pimple on the face of Europe" and as a state that no longer had a right to exist, denouncing the Swiss people as "a misbegotten branch of our Volk"
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Adolf Hitler, Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944, Martin Bormann, ed., Norman Cameron, trans. (London: Enigma Books, 2000), 800.

As we all know those darn Swiss were planning on invading peaceful Germany any darn minute.
 
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