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Merged A God of Love / The Living God

I don't care what you feel, I have no interest in being a "blessing" (whatever that means), I care how I am treated. Being told I am a second class citizen simply because of what I am is blatantly unjust.

It is actually about species here. I would rather be a "second class"/female human being then a "first class"/male dog. So I am now rather a wife of God then a husband of a human being.


Hokulele;11862483Being told I can never have any sort of say in household decisions said:
A wise woman would allow her foolish husband to make all the wrong decisions
until he realizes that he should allow her to have a say also. But if the woman is foolish also she should not blame it on "sexism".

Love Johan
 
It is actually about species here. I would rather be a "second class"/female human being then a "first class"/male dog. So I am now rather a wife of God then a husband of a human being.




A wise woman would allow her foolish husband to make all the wrong decisions
until he realizes that he should allow her to have a say also. But if the woman is foolish also she should not blame it on "sexism".

Love Johan

Why should the woman act like a slave?
And if your God really represents universal love, then why make half of his 'children' an inferior caste based on the shape of their genitals?

You're full of some four letter word, but it isn't 'love'.
 
For sure . . but obviously . . you have to accept the salad first.



No problem . . .everybody makes errors.



Nope . . .I am saying that your interpretation is yours. And how can a human being interpret God?

Love Johan
You are claiming that you can. How can you interpret your claimed god?
 
Yep . . .but what about this one . . .doing exactly the way He created all of earthly existence? This obviously has to be the one and only and the only one worthy of following.




Yep true . . .now worthiness in these ones.

A minute ago you were claiming to be a god yourself, but now you're saying we should not follow you. Well, one out of two.
 
It is actually about species here. I would rather be a "second class"/female human being then a "first class"/male dog. So I am now rather a wife of God then a husband of a human being.



That is your problem, not mine. I have no interest in a religious system that justifies sexism, and would rather partner with someone interested in being a full partner, not an overbearing master, or an obsequious slave. I also note you seem to be of that old-fashioned style of thinking where every woman needs a husband. I guess same sex partnerships have no place in your religion?

Ew.
 
No, if he died to pay for sins, he was deluded in thinking that was what he was doing.

Only in your mind. But as for me . . . I am reaping the benefits. Look again.

I forgive you and I love you. You have not earned it. You just get it for free. This is called grace. I have it because of the sacrifice.

And you . . .just retaliation. I live in peace and love. And you . . in anger, irritation, stress, worry, and

what got you here? For sure it is not love. So tell us about your motivation in your replies.

maybe . . something this is something new to explore or a chance to make fun of what you do not know about.?

Or?

Tell us . . . if you dare!

Love Johan
 
Why should the woman act like a slave?

Only in your mind . . .but if you look better . . .you will see the wisdom of the woman .. . and you will see the ruling ability of the woman. But you are blinded by your own illusions. Do not worry . . .God opens the eyes of the blind.


And if your God really represents universal love, then why make half of his 'children' an inferior caste based on the shape of their genitals?


You are really deep in your "blindness"


You're full of some four letter word, but it isn't 'love'.

So how . . can the blind now tell the seeing what they see and what the seeing does not see?

Love Johan
 
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It is actually about species here. I would rather be a "second class"/female human being then a "first class"/male dog. So I am now rather a wife of God then a husband of a human being.




A wise woman would allow her foolish husband to make all the wrong decisions
until he realizes that he should allow her to have a say also. But if the woman is foolish also she should not blame it on "sexism".

Love Johan

I suppose it is pointless as usual, but I would point out first that we do not choose our species, so your preference is hardly to the point. I would rather be any sort of class of human than any class of dog, but that is not an option anyway, and is no more relevant than the transparently truistic assumption that I'd rather be something I like than something I don't. What is relevant is what kind of human being a human being should be, and all else is meaningless persiflage.

Assuming Hokulele is human (of course as the old saying goes nobody knows you're a dog on the internet, but I'll hazard a guess...), then there is no reason any religious nonsense should create for her a class that differentiates her from other human beings. Such nonsense would be enough, in my own mind, to disqualify any religious idea from consideration, inherently foolish but also grounds for suspicion that it is justification for misogynistic misdeeds. Of course I can't speak for Hokulele, though I surmise from her posting history that she is not inclined to be either passive or stupid, but I would consider her by default a first class citizen unless she was stupid enough to choose otherwise.

Second, you utterly ignore the idea that "wrong decisions" can be wrong in ways that are not disadvantageous to the person making them, or that the benefit of a relationship should belong to both parties from the start. What's so special about a man's happiness or self image or whatever, that he gets to be a jerk for some period of time while his subservient wife suffers? So a woman should go along with her husband's stupidity and abuse, even if it makes her unhappy, in order for him to come to wisdom happily? Stuff that for a lark.

A reasonable and intelligent woman is not going to sit around while her husband acts with foolhardy recklessness, abuse or harm, in the vain hope that he'll come to his senses. One who does is either playing passive-aggressive hardball or a fool. Maybe your confusion about species does factor in here. You want a dog, not a wife.

Abusing one's wife might be rather satisfying to a despicable sexist swine, or just to a fool who knows no better, and if the wife were to take your advice, little benefit would accrue to her, nor would he have much reason to cease his odious behavior. If you want someone to stop doing something, saying "yes master" is not at all efficient.

Without going into specifics, which it's clear one should not here, I would modestly suggest the conduct of long and happy relationships, and the reaping of benefits therefrom, is an area where others might argue from a better position.
 
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I suppose it is pointless as usual,

Maybe not.



but I would point out first that we do not choose our species, so your preference is hardly to the point. I would rather be any sort of class of human than any class of dog, but that is not an option anyway,

Now we can choose our species. We can choose between human and God.


Second, you utterly ignore the idea that "wrong decisions" can be wrong in ways that are not disadvantageous to the person making them,

Yep . . .that way he/she will learn.

or that the benefit of a relationship should belong to both parties from the start. What's so special about a man's happiness or self image or whatever, that he gets to be a jerk for some period of time while his subservient wife suffers?

His wife does not suffer because "jerks" will be revealed as "jerks" and then he will pay for being a "jerk". Nobody said that she should be quiet about the "jerk". Nope she should speak about his being a "jerk" with him, together with his friends . . .wherever . . .even here on the internet . . as you have witnessed.


So a woman should go along with her husband's stupidity and abuse, even if it makes her unhappy, in order for him to come to wisdom happily?

It can not make her unhappy. It is not doing it for me.

Stuff that for a lark.

Nope I am hoping for a wise person.

A reasonable and intelligent woman is not going to sit around while her husband acts with foolhardy recklessness, abuse or harm, in the vain hope that he'll come to his senses. One who does is either playing passive-aggressive hardball or a fool. Maybe your confusion about species does factor in here. You want a dog, not a wife.

Yep . . .she can talk about it. I am speaking about it. Everywhere. Until I am stopped . . which you just witnessed.

Abusing one's wife might be rather satisfying to a despicable sexist swine, or just to a fool who knows no better, and if the wife were to take your advice, little benefit would accrue to her, nor would he have much reason to cease his odious behavior. If you want someone to stop doing something, saying "yes master" is not at all efficient.

Yep . . I agree . . that is why I show everyone to throw it in the open.

Without going into specifics, which it's clear one should not here,

Yep . . but in God's forum . . anything goes.

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I would modestly suggest the conduct of long and happy relationships, and the reaping of benefits therefrom, is an area where others might argue from a better position.

Yep . . .that is what I am doing.

Love Johan
 
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Sin has been paid for with very expensive Blood. So everyone can live now in peace and harmony and love.

Even give me the ability to say . . .

Love Johan

Essentially, this boils down to "God sacrificed himself to himself so that He could do what he wanted to do."

The theatre of Jesus "dying" was completely unnecessary to Yahweh forgiving people for their sins.
 
Only in your mind. But as for me . . . I am reaping the benefits. Look again.

I forgive you and I love you. You have not earned it. You just get it for free. This is called grace. I have it because of the sacrifice.

And you . . .just retaliation. I live in peace and love. And you . . in anger, irritation, stress, worry, and

what got you here? For sure it is not love. So tell us about your motivation in your replies.

maybe . . something this is something new to explore or a chance to make fun of what you do not know about.?

Or?

Tell us . . . if you dare!

Love Johan
You don't appear to be reaping any benefits at all. Based on my last trip to South Africa, having a god on the ground does not appear to be any great benefit to that country.
 
Essentially, this boils down to "God sacrificed himself to himself so that He could do what he wanted to do."

Nope God sacrificed Himself so that we can have perfect relationships with Him and with one another.

The theatre of Jesus "dying" was completely unnecessary to Yahweh forgiving people for their sins.

Nope it was necessary because without that there is none. That is also why everybody is fighting everybody else.

Love Johan
 

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