Kathy this is why I don't fear eternal damnation.

[kurious_kathy]

Originally posted by kurious_kathy
I am only going to comment on one of your statements to make you think about all those descriptive words you just used. Those describe Satan, not God! There is a deceiver in this world, wake up!!

I am awake, Kathy my friend. I woke up when I realised the Bible is NOT the word of GOD, that there IS NO GOD, and that there is NO POINT enslaving myself to a ridiculous 2000 year old doctrine written mostly by misogynists and wowsers, that denies me the right to HAVE FUN and JUST TO BE, using the bodily bits and the brain I was born with.

YOU are the deceived and the BIBLE is the deceiver.

Wake up Kathy!

Here endeth the lesson.

You are so deceived if you really believe that! The Bible is the infallible word of God, you just aren't trying to be open to Him. If you were, you would see and have faith yourself.
Without faith it is impossible to please God. Guess you just don't want to try to know Him. I can't imagine why anyone would want to leave God out of their life? Closed minds are closed hearts!!

 

[Psiload]

And God is the only one that can judge anyone. We are not to play that game.

earlier:

Posted by kurious_kathy
Look at the muslim history. They follow corrupt leaders!. I hate evil and what I have seen of the radical muslims appears to be evil!

The lesson for today....

Practice what you preach.

 

[Atlas]

... I can't imagine why anyone would want to leave God out of their life? ...

It's a tough problem kathy. It's only been explained to you 10 times or so. Maybe it's because to imagine something you have to use your brain. I'll explain it one more time.

To a child a teddy bear gives the same emotional sustenance you say you get from your God. Even though the teddy bear is not really doing anything, the child does feel better holding the teddy bear close.

Coming in here waving your teddy bear looks foolish to us. After we tell you we don't believe in teddy bears it would be a sign of respect to try to reach us with your message another way. You don't do that. You continually trash the forum with your disrespect, like a common troll.

1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

Oh yah, I almost forgot....

Wake Up!

 

[kurious_kathy]

God is quite a bit bigger than a teddy bear guys!

Psalm 46:6-10 (New International Version)

6 Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall;
he lifts his voice, the earth melts.

7 The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.
Selah

8 Come and see the works of the LORD,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.

9 He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth;
he breaks the bow and shatters the spear,
he burns the shields [a] with fire.

10 "Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth."

When He returns, will you be ready?

 

[Dubium]

Whichever cult you're in, Kathy - it's done it's job well. You are brainwashed to the stage where I doubt any of us can reach you. I hope someone rescues you one day my dear. Maybe one of your kids or something.... or a relative. They must be worried about you surely.

Empathy from someone who's been there, Kathy, and hugs.

 

[RandFan]

When He returns, will you be ready?

Can you beg the question? Logic Kathy. Look into it.

 

[Dogdoctor]

2 Corinthians 6
14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers.

Ok so when your pulling an ox cart down the road don't let them yoke a unbeliever next to you ( I never allow myself to be yoked to an unbeliever anyway)

For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common?

This doesn't make sense , they ARE both nouns

Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

Obviously light and dark can't have fellowship since they aren't fellows.

15 ... What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

Well they may actually have a lot in common depending on the individuals.

 

[Atlas]

God is quite a bit bigger than a teddy bear guys!

Psalm 46:8 Come and see the works of the LORD,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.

I'll bet you like this quote cuz you think it's about you.

 

[Psiload]

When He returns, will you be ready?

Wait, hold on... lemme grab a beer and some popcorn, and pull up a chair. OK, I'm ready...




I'm waiting.



All ready now.



Still sittin' here.



Ready as I'll ever be.



Any day now.

 

[Ceritus]

God is quite a bit bigger than a teddy bear guys!
When He returns, will you be ready?

Sure if he returns and can pass the JREF challenge that he is indeed the son of God than yep I'll be ready. If there is a person that just claims to be the son of god with no proof to back it up than sure I'll be ready to cut him down to size as well. If there ends up being a rapture and millions of people are just all of a sudden missing and then great earthquakes and flashes of light fill the sky then my beliefs may change who knows. But I am willing to bet everything I own and ever will own there will never be a Rapture of millions in an instance unless ofcourse you consider massive nuclear strikes and people vaporizing in the air a rapture. If that is the case the bets off

 

[kurious_kathy]

Revelation 1
Prologue
1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
Greetings and doxology
4John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
7Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.

8"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty

Many others know the Bible is the true inspired word of God, why don't you?

 

[Kopji]

I fail to see what is so particularly sad about Edward Hicks' work. He repeated a certain subject; that's not unheard of; such a phenomenon is also heard from heathen painters. Maybe, would Hicks have been an atheist, he would have painted other pictures; or perhaps not at all. But as far as I see, nothing precludes the possibility that those alternative pictures would have been as repetitious as the pictures he actually made.

Also, as far as I understood, those 60 peaceable kingdoms are not all completely alike. It's possible to attack the same subject again and again, solving completely different artistic problems. Much of western art consists of different versions of "young mother with baby". That doesn't mean that those pictures all look alike.

Comparing this with Robin's horror story four posts later: what's so wrong with Hicks' life and work?

Art was considered a worldly evil by his church at the time. The subject was chosen because it was acceptable.

 

[Kopji]

It is thought that Edward Hicks painted the theme of the Peaceable Kingdom as many as one hundred times. There are several possible reasons for his attachment to the subject, including his love of children and animals and his devotion to the Bible. A more complex explanation involved the fact that he was a Quaker minister, and Quakers disapproved of nonutilitarian art such as easel painting. However, because Hicks knew no other profitable trade and since Quaker ministers were not permitted salaries, he needed the income from his painting to support his large family. The Peaceable Kingdom, as a religious subject and a kind of visual sermon, perhaps helped Hicks to justify his vocation.
http://www.albrightknox.org/ArtStart/Hicks.html

Sorry, sad.

 

[Atlas]

Revelation 1
Prologue
1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
Greetings and doxology
4John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
7Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.

8"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty

Many others know the Bible is the true inspired word of God, why don't you?

"the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication." (Rev. 17:1-2 KJV)

 

[Kopji]

The end-times themes of the Book of Revelation are not unique to the Bible and they were not new at the time of its writing.

Search on
'eschatology'
'dead sea scrolls'
'The War Scroll'

 

[kurious_kathy]

I'll bet you like this quote cuz you think it's about you.

Actually it's all about Him! He is coming again and I can't wait.

Hurricane Katrina:
A sign of the Last Days?
By Greg Laurie


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Posted: September 5, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes and global terrorism all cause us to wonder what on earth is happening. Sure, there has always been tragedy and cataclysmic events in our world, but, these days, it seems that a new crisis is exploding just as another is beginning to abate.

As we prepare to remember the horrific attack on American soil on 9-11, we may wonder could it be that all these things that are happening in our world today are actually signs of the times. Could these be reminders to us that Jesus Christ is coming back soon?

Consider the tsunami that struck Southeast Asia on Dec. 26 last year. It was caused by the fourth most powerful undersea earthquake on record. An earthquake so powerful it moved the entire island of Sumatra 100 feet to the southwest from its pre-quake position. Geologists said the tsunami was so powerful that it set the whole Earth to vibrating and it interfered with the Earth's rotation to the degree that time stopped for three microseconds.

According to the U.S. Geological Society, earthquakes are on the increase. For the past 50 years, every decade has increased in the number of earthquakes recorded. And not just minor ones, but "killer quakes" as well. And, this one has been one of the strongest ever, with more than 286,000 causalities in its wake. More will come.

And now in our own back yard, this tragic hurricane called Katrina may end up claiming thousands of lives as well.

Then there is the continuing threat of terrorism. The last attack happened in London, with threats of more to come.

When Jesus was asked what the signs of His return would be, He painted a picture of a world torn by strife and war; famine in the midst of plenty; the Earth rocked by great earthquakes and ravaged by pestilences. Jesus said: "And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven" (Luke 21:11, NKJV). Jesus indicates that natural disasters along with global conflict will begin to increase in frequency and intensity in concert with each other shortly before His return.

And it is as these "birth pains" begin to take place that Christians are to know their deliverance is near!

Jesus said "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near" (Luke 21:28, NKJV).

I had the opportunity to be a guest on "Larry King Live" in August, and a caller directed a question to me about what is happening in our world today. I was asked if we are, indeed, seeing signs of the times, predicted in the Bible, reminding us that the coming of Christ is near. I told her, "I believe that we are." And Larry pointedly said to me, "It's been 2005 years"! And I responded, "Yes, and we are 2005 years closer"! We have never been closer to the return of Jesus Christ to the Earth than we are right now. So, what are we to do?

Certainly, we want to do everything we can for the victims of this latest tragedy along the gulf coast of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. You will find Christian churches and relief organizations like Samaritan's Purse, World Vision, and the Salvation Army leading the way. And, we all should offer them and others our prayerful and financial support.

Sometimes people accuse Christians of having their heads in the sand, oblivious to the problems of the world around us. As it is often stated, they are so "heavenly minded, they are no earthly good." Nothing could be further from the truth.

In fact, the very opposite is the case. When you truly are "heavenly minded," you will be of the greatest earthly good. You will find those who have done the most for this world have been those who thought the most of the next one.

You will not see any atheist relief groups rushing to provide aid to our friends devastated by Katrina. There is no "Non-believer's Purse," or "Secular Vision" or "Atheists' Army" out there helping those in need. But there are thousands of Christian churches and para-church organizations that are already doing what they do best – offering help and hope to those in need.

Another thing we must consider as we see these signs of the times, or these "birth pains," is these are reminders to us that the return of Jesus is near and we need to be ready spiritually.

The Bible teaches that there is a generation of people who will not see death, but rather will meet the Lord in what is often referred to as the rapture of the Church.

Could we be that generation? Time will tell. But if I were you, I would pay careful attention to all that is happening – you will be glad that you did!

 

[Freakshow]

Hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes and global terrorism all cause us to wonder what on earth is happening. Sure, there has always been tragedy and cataclysmic events in our world, but, these days, it seems that a new crisis is exploding just as another is beginning to abate.

Please present statistical evidence showing that the recent 30 years (approximately one generation) has had more hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, and global conflicts than any similar length time period of the past 2000 years.

 

[Kopji]

http://www.ldolphin.org/quakes2.html

CONCLUSION
A number of prophecy teachers say that a pronounced increase in frequency and intensity of earthquakes has occurred in the latter part of the twentieth century, a worldwide trend fulfilling a prophecy made by Jesus. Contrary to these prophecy teachers, no obvious trend is found indicating an abnormal increase in the frequency of large earthquakes during the last half of the twentieth century. Neither is there a noteworthy deficiency of earthquakes in the first half of the century. Graphical plots of global earthquake frequency indicate overall a decreasing frequency of earthquakes through the century. The decades of the 1970s, 80s and 90s experienced a deficit of larger earthquakes compared to earlier decades of the century. The 70s, 80s and 90s are precisely those decades that many prophecy teachers suppose, erroneously, show a dramatic surplus of larger earthquakes. Regional earthquake data from California and Japan also do not argue for increasing earthquake frequency in the latter decades of our century.

(This material is from a Christian creationist website.)


and this material is not:

linky

In a peculiar way, the story of the most dreadful and chaotic set of events predicted in the Bible -- Armageddon and Final Judgment -- actually can become a form of solace, an anchor for certain people whose lives otherwise lack purpose, meaning and direction. The point is that people join apocalyptic movements because they provide something! You can feel empowered because you can claim to have a select knowledge, you’re one of the enlightened or blessed few who will survive or be raptured, you’re going to be an important player in this great eschatological drama. And when you enter this apocalyptic mindset, when you are on this mental trajectory, all of the other problems of everyday life suddenly become manageable or insignificant. There’s an excellent book on this which I recommend, it’s titled “Apocalypse: On the psychology of fundamentalism in America” by Charles Strozier, who is a psychotherapist and professor at John Jay College. He studied apocalyptic sects in New York City, and one of the things he found is that many of these people who embrace a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible have actually arrived at a kind of “blissed out” level where they feel they have solved many problems in their life.

Now THAT was prophetic.

 

[clarsct]

Oh, kathy. Oh dear.

You aren't really attempting to subvert the pain and suffering of others into some kind of endorsement for ANY god, are you?

In order to announce the second coming, many people must suffer horribly and die?

This is a new low for you. Repent, and embrace empathy for your fellow man. From whence does such hatred spring?

Who hurt you? Who did something that bad to you that you reject your fellow man? What gives you the right to say that their suffering was nothing more than a sign for you?

Oh, kathy. I fear for your humanity.

 

[Atlas]

Actually it's all about Him! He is coming again and I can't wait.

You're an amazing woman, kathy.

Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

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