Cont: Proof of Immortality, V for Very long discussion

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- Dave, it sounds like you're volunteering...

- Jay, it sounds like you are not volunteering...
- If you are volunteering, maybe you and Dave can decide who actually does it. Maybe, you could take turns -- though I don't know how that would work.

- Otherwise, I'll go with Dave.
 
Jabba said:
- Dave, it sounds like you're volunteering...

- Jay, it sounds like you are not volunteering...
- If you are volunteering, maybe you and Dave can decide who actually does it. Maybe, you could take turns -- though I don't know how that would work.

- Otherwise, I'll go with Dave.
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I would prefer you go with JayUtah. His replies are much better thought out than mine.
 
Jabba said:
If it's OK with you, I'll take you as the attorney for the defense...
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I have no intention of participating in producing your "map." I reject its purpose and plan entirely. Non-negotiable. I renew my explicit denial of permission for you to use anything I've written in it.

However, since you've expressed an interest in answering, you'll notice that in my post I

1. proposed that we continue in this forum as before, and
2. asked you to address individually the fatal flaws and dishonest tactics I identified.

Please proceed to do so without further delay.
 
JayUtah said:
I have no intention of participating in producing your "map." I reject its purpose and plan entirely. Non-negotiable. I renew my explicit denial of permission for you to use anything I've written in it.

However, since you've expressed an interest in answering, you'll notice that in my post I

1. proposed that we continue in this forum as before, and
2. asked you to address individually the fatal flaws and dishonest tactics I identified.

Please proceed to do so without further delay.
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- So Dave, I'll go with you. Though, you can represent Jay as much as you choose.
 
Jabba said:
Jay, it sounds like you are not volunteering...
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I have no interest in your "map." I will not under any circumstances help you produce it. I have questioned you numerous times about its purported value and advantage, and I take your steadfast ignorance of those questions as confirmation that you intend to mislead the world as you did before. Naturally I will have no part in that.

You have indicated that a failure of ISF to produce a palooka champion would necessitate your having to fill in the other side of the debate as best you can. Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I proposed we continue the debate here in this forum, beginning with my point-by-point response. Since you have affirmed an interest in what I have to say about your claims, we'll take that as confirmation to proceed as I outlined. As in your proposal, your refusal to participate will necessitate me having to fill in your side of the debate here as best I can. Since those were your proposed ground rules for your opponent, I trust you will accept them as ground rules for my opponent -- you.

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Jabba said:
- So Dave, I'll go with you. Though, you can represent Jay as much as you choose.
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Like Jay, I have no intention of participating in producing your "map." I do not give you permission to use anything I've written in it.

Feel free to respond to my posts here on the forum though.

Or you could respond to Jay's.
 
Jabba said:
- So Dave, I'll go with you. Though, you can represent Jay as much as you choose.
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If you have such an interest in what I write, why don't you respond to me here? Why is controlling the venue and the identity of your opponent the overriding element of your proposal? Given your past behavior, we have to assume you plan to lie again, and this control is meant to solidify that position.
 
JayUtah said:
I have no interest in your "map." I will not under any circumstances help you produce it. I have questioned you numerous times about its purported value and advantage, and I take your steadfast ignorance of those questions as confirmation that you intend to mislead the world as you did before. Naturally I will have no part in that.

You have indicated that a failure of ISF to produce a palooka champion would necessitate your having to fill in the other side of the debate as best you can. Well what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I proposed we continue the debate here in this forum, beginning with my point-by-point response. Since you have affirmed an interest in what I have to say about your claims, we'll take that as confirmation to proceed as I outlined. As in your proposal, your refusal to participate will necessitate me having to fill in your side of the debate here as best I can. Since those were your proposed ground rules for your opponent, I trust you will accept them as ground rules for my opponent -- you.

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I'll second this motion. After all, you have actually read Jabba's posts in the pasts, so you would be prepared to discuss them.
 
Jabba said:
- So Dave, I'll go with you. Though, you can represent Jay as much as you choose.
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No. While Dave has responded to you, bless his cotton socks, he has no more provided any consent of any kind for anything.

The very notion that you would assume so is simply abhorrent.

Ask yourself when did any such thing happen before. Take a peek left and right and learn your august company.
 
Jabba said:
Can you refer me to a source?
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I was literally able to Google a source in less than 10 seconds, less time than it took you to saddle your critics with doing your homework.

Jabba, it is abundantly clear you have no clue what you're doing, statistically or mathematically. Dismiss, if you wish, this forum as hard-core skeptics. But you got the same answer from professional mathematicians and statisticians that you consulted in your area -- people you chose presumably because you trust them. You got the same answer from a statistics forum. How many more consultations do you plan to ignore before it begins to settle in that the problem is with you, not the rest of the world?
 
Jabba said:
- Dave, it sounds like you're volunteering...

- Jay, it sounds like you are not volunteering...
- If you are volunteering, maybe you and Dave can decide who actually does it. Maybe, you could take turns -- though I don't know how that would work.

- Otherwise, I'll go with Dave.
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Jabba said:
Jay,
- If it's OK with you, I'll take you as the attorney for the defense...
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Jabba said:
- So Dave, I'll go with you. Though, you can represent Jay as much as you choose.
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:dl:
 
Jabba said:
- I think that, using Bayesian statistics, I can virtually disprove the consensus scientific hypothesis that we each have only one, finite, life to live…
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You originally claimed you could prove immortality through Bayesian statistics. Then you revised that to claim you could virtually prove immortality. Now you claim to virtually disprove something else entirely.

So Jabba, before we go too far down this new road, can you please confirm that your attempts to prove (or virtually prove) immortality have failed and can now be closed?
 
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