Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Johanabrahams]

Surely, you can't be talking about the God of Abraham? If you are, you need to read your bible.

Yep . . .I am. Did you read what He did for Abraham?

God so loved the world that he killed almost every living creatures on earth with a global flood.

Yep .. almost. But did you read what He did for Noah?

That he made death the punishment for taking his name in vain, working on the Sabbath, eating the wrong food, etc or following our human urges and desires.

But you are still alive?

The one who told Abraham to kill his son and then say at the last moment he was just joshing Abraham.

Yep . . .but did you read why Abraham then even loved Him more?

The same God who allowed Jepthah to sacrifice his daugher?

Well Jepthah wanted his way . . .same as Adam and Eve. And you are happy that you can have your way .. . are you not?

The same God who says if we don't believe in him even though he offers no credible proof of his existence that we be punished for eternity.

Nope . . .there is no punishment for you anymore. Did you not read that He died for your sins?

You can't mean that God is loving? Because that God is a dick.

Well . . if you read only half of the stories .. obviously you will come to that conclusion.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

By not being taken seriously? Kind of an odd messaging strategy.

If someone is not serious . . .how can he be taken seriously?

Love Johan

 

[fagin]

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God so loved the world that he killed almost every living creatures on earth with a global flood. That he made death the punishment for taking his name in vain, working on the Sabbath, eating the wrong food, etc or following our human urges and desires.

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But you are still alive?

Assuming that acbytesla is a nasty sinner, which is a nasty assumption to make...god is either a bit useless, or non existent. Obviously.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Neither my faith nor my hand shall reach where the proof of your manhood rests.

Your hand will find the old . . .but your faith will see the new.

Also, faith is not magic, it is not our faith that determines whether you are a human man or not.

God's faith creates.

Gen 1:3* And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.*

And evasive platitudes are not wisdom, no matter how often you repeat them.

Wisdom resides with God and can never be judged by humans.

Love Johan

 

[abaddon]

Yep . . .I am. Did you read what He did for Abraham?

Yup. Forcing him to go sacrifice his own son was loving, eh? Calling it off at the last minute was so loving, eh?

Yep .. almost. But did you read what He did for Noah?

Yup. Condemned him to a life of perpetual incest. No wonder Noah became a drunken sot. Very loving, eh?

But you are still alive?

Yup. So what? All that shows is how ineffectual bible god really is.

Yep . . .but did you read why Abraham then even loved Him more?

Yup. Fear.

Well Jepthah wanted his way . . .same as Adam and Eve. And you are happy that you can have your way .. . are you not?

Jepthah butchered his own daughter in exchange for successful conquest. Very loving, no?

Nope . . .there is no punishment for you anymore. Did you not read that He died for your sins?

jebus is not supposed to be dead. He was temporarily inconvenienced at best. Besides, the bible says you are wrong so clearly you have not read it.

Well . . if you read only half of the stories .. obviously you will come to that conclusion.

Love Johan

And if you read all of them you will conclude that bible god is an evil monster

 

[Johanabrahams]

Faith is indistinguishable from gullibility.

God's faith is to create the impossible. But it was first judged as good by God.

Mat 9:28* And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.*
Mat 9:29* Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.*
Mat 9:30* And their eyes were opened;


Love Johan

 

[Beady]

Nope . . .there is no punishment for you anymore. Did you not read that He died for your sins?

I was told by a full-blooded Sioux that it was George Armstrong Custer that did that.

This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Let's face it, as a god you are kind of a let down. No powers. No water to wine.

You can get your entertainment from the magicians-gods if you want to. I am into serious stuff.

Your tedious grasp of the English language isn't very impressive as god powers go.

That is not much important as God goes.


Love Johan

 

[abaddon]

You can get your entertainment from the magicians-gods if you want to. I am into serious stuff.

Why are you then promoting a magician-god?

That is not much important as God goes.

A: How do you know what is or is not important to any god?

B: You are admitting that your god is so useless that he/she/it/housecat is unable to compose coherent english. Fare thee well, omnipotence.

 

[Craig4]

You can get your entertainment from the magicians-gods if you want to. I am into serious stuff.

I'm glad you told me otherwise, I'd never have known.

 

[Craig4]

God's faith is to create the impossible. But it was first judged as good by God.

Mat 9:28* And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.*
Mat 9:29* Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.*
Mat 9:30* And their eyes were opened;


Love Johan

Yeah, look, Jesus died because he was too stupid or too crazy to un**** himself. Sorry for the strong language, but if the Romans got out the boards, nails and posthole digger, you were just straight up **********. It has nothing to do with sin, or paying for sin. He played a dangerous game with the Romans and got turned into performance art for it.

 

[bruto]

I am what my Father and mother is. If they are mice then obviously I am too. If they are lions then obviously I am too. If they are human beings then obviously I am too.

They are Gods. So obviously I am too.

Love Johan

Gods have their own way of doing things, though. Perseus was born of a royal virgin and a shower of gold, but I warrant he was neither himself. And Leda's kids were not gods at all despite the sneaky participation of Zeus. Sorry, folks. If you're going to get all mythy about it, gods just like to **** around and they don't take their bastardy byblows home with them.

 

[Zivan]

They are Gods. So obviously I am too.

Love Johan

Have you met PartSkeptic and Paul Bethke?

They are also in SA.

You should talk to PartSkeptic
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316775

And Paul Bethke
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319950

They also say they have sooper seekrit information from god.

You three have a lot in common........

..........A LOT............

 

[Johanabrahams]

Cool. I'm a Minotaur. Pew pew, shooting my Minotaur laser gun.
Anyone need some yarn?

Does not look as if there is anything here you can give us. Maybe you are at the end of yourself?

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

Why does your god not care either way?

Well me and you are of one accord. There is nothing I can do to the paragraphs now. But God cares . . .for sure . . .so He is going to do a miracle for the sake of everybody . . and everybody will still be able to follow . . .even without paragraphs.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

It is not relief at all if you aren't male. It is hideously unfair and biased against females.

Well I am male . . .and have to sacrifice that for female. I have nothing against females. I found them a blessing in every instance.

Again, ick, no thanks. I prefer a philosophy that doesn't automatically demean half the population.

Don't worry . . .it is only in your understanding. We should not automatically assume that ours is the best. Sometimes there is another one that is better.

Love Johan

 

[abaddon]

Well me and you are of one accord. There is nothing I can do to the paragraphs now. But God cares . . .for sure . . .so He is going to do a miracle for the sake of everybody . . and everybody will still be able to follow . . .even without paragraphs.

Love Johan

Your god quite plainly does not care at all. About anyone.

Your god could eliminate famine, but cannot be bothered to do so.

Your god could eliminate disease, but cannot be bothered to do so.

That does not seem "loving" behaviour to me.

 

[Johanabrahams]

You claimed he is and now you claim he isn't? Make up your mind.

He can be. Depends who is his father. If it is a human being then he is a human being. But he can give himself for a new birth from God. Then God is his Father and then he is a God. God has the ability to give birth to whosoever wants to make that choice.

And? Good health, good memories, good future.

Try the "Reply" button.

I tried .. .it is not working.

If you say so.

It is about what you say.

Love Johan

 

[Johanabrahams]

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I have a better one. God so loved the world that He died for it. Now the world is free . . .do you see?

Assuming that acbytesla is a nasty sinner, which is a nasty assumption to make...god is either a bit useless, or non existent. Obviously.

Well we can ask acbytesia . . .and then we need not assume. But maybe God died for the world . . .and now He is not into punishment anymore . . taking His death seriously. Obviously.

But you need not be so sensitive about "nasty sinners" . . .I am one. That is why I needed to accept the Love of God that He gave through dying for everyone . . .including me. Otherwise . . there was just no way for me to make it.

Love Johan

 

[abaddon]

He can be. Depends who is his father. If it is a human being then he is a human being. But he can give himself for a new birth from God. Then God is his Father and then he is a God. God has the ability to give birth to whosoever wants to make that choice.

Can I get dressing with that salad?

I tried .. .it is not working.

It is working. The error is yours alone.

It is about what you say.

Is it? OK I say that your bible god is demonstrably an evil monster as recorded in his holey babble.

Are you now saying that the very same holey babble is incorrect?