Who is telling the truth?

[ddt]

I knew it would poll heavily in Comey's favor. But still. Wow!

I can't help to wonder who the 1 is?

Tip for next time: you can also set up a poll non-anonymously.

 

[Vixen]

I knew it would poll heavily in Comey's favor. But still. Wow!

I can't help to wonder who the 1 is?

...Hello, hello...

 

[acbytesla]

Tip for next time: you can also set up a poll non-anonymously.

I saw that when I created it, but at the time I thought it would be better if it was anonymous. I was just second guessing. It's my first poll.

 

[acbytesla]

...Hello, hello...

Was it you Vixen?

 

[Vixen]

Was it you Vixen?

Nah. Only kidding <g d r>.

 

[acbytesla]

This seems to be a no brainer. Would like to see everyone vote.

 

[shemp]

This seems to be a no brainer. Would like to see everyone vote.

So far, the poll shows that only one voter has no brain.

 

[Brainster]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Second vote explained.

 

[Craig4]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

Comey is building hype. He's had surrogates and leaking the contents and will testify in public to the full contents next week. This is clearly a strategy to inflict damage.

 

[acbytesla]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

Funny, that wasn't the question. It was who do you believe? Comey or the President?

But I think your comment shows a misunderstanding of what is skepticism. Do you believe the memos don't exist? Or that they don't materially say what they have been reported by numerous news outlets? Or do you think it's all 'fake news'?

Ultimately, I expect the memos will be produced. Keep in mind, Comey will be testifying in an open session of Congress after Memorial day. I kind of think that Comey is showing the President another way to control the news cycle. He is releasing a little of the story just tiny bits at a time.

 

[Arcade22]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

Why would seeing the memos be enough? I thought you were arguing for skepticism here.

As a True Skeptic™ I need multiple independent pieces of evidence, preferably video and audio recordings from multiple angles with time-stamps clearly documenting that Comey actually wrote said memos as alleged. Anything short of that would simply be insufficient to convince a True Skeptic™ such as myself to come to a reasonable conclusion. As such I must simply accept that i don't know whether or not Comey wrote any notes at all and it's just as likely that Trump is speaking the Truth as Comey is.

 

[phiwum]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

Multiple sources say they have them in hand. Do you suppose the press or FBI senior officials are conspiring to make this up from whole cloth?

 

[TragicMonkey]

I think Trump's lying and Comey's telling the truth, but I don't consider these memos as the rocksolid evidence others seem to be. Ckney wrote them, so why are they more reliable as evidence than hearsay? It's still his claim versus Trump's claim of what happened. That Comey committed his version to paper makes it better? One can only tell the truth in writing? If Trump had scrawled a memo, clutching a crayon in his pudgy little paw, of his version of events would his memo be evidence also?

 

[phiwum]

Funny, that wasn't the question. It was who do you believe? Comey or the President?

But I think your comment shows a misunderstanding of what is skepticism. Do you believe the memos don't exist? Or that they don't materially say what they have been reported by numerous news outlets? Or do you think it's all 'fake news'?

Ultimately, I expect the memos will be produced. Keep in mind, Comey will be testifying in an open session of Congress after Memorial day. I kind of think that Comey is showing the President another way to control the news cycle. He is releasing a little of the story just tiny bits at a time.

I don't think that Comey has released anything at all. I could be wrong, he could be one of the sources in this story or else directing the sources what to say and when, but there's no evidence this is the case (and Witter certainly denied it).

 

[3point14]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

You only believe that which you've seen? Are you sure Australia exists? How many protons are there in a carbon atom?

 

[Oliver]

Wait, where's the "I believe whatever the Media decides to be the truth"-option?

Actually, I believe neither one. Not even the question itself.

 

[acbytesla]

I don't think that Comey has released anything at all. I could be wrong, he could be one of the sources in this story or else directing the sources what to say and when, but there's no evidence this is the case (and Witter certainly denied it).

This is vintage Comey. Care to bet? I'll bet you 10K, there are memos. And they materially say what has been reported.

 

[acbytesla]

I think Trump's lying and Comey's telling the truth, but I don't consider these memos as the rocksolid evidence others seem to be. Coney wrote them, so why are they more reliable as evidence than hearsay? It's still his claim versus Trump's claim of what happened. That Comey committed his version to paper makes it better? One can only tell the truth in writing? If Trump had scrawled a memo, clutching a crayon in his pudgy little paw, of his version of events would his memo be evidence also?

It wouldn't be considered hearsay. Comey witnessed a crime. And Comey is a law enforcement officer. We tend to believe their testimony. That he wrote it down while the events were fresh in his mind and that by electronically sending those notes to others he managed to timestamp them.

Thes are notes of what a law enforcement officer witnessed moments before. Lots of people have gone to prison on this.

If the memo was written days or weeks later, it would be easier to believe his memory could just be poor. Also, if transcribing memos was unusual it might carry less weight.

From all reports this is a common practice of Comey's. That makes it more believable. From my perspective, this is simply a question of credibility. If you put other remarks the President has made about why Jim Comey was fired IMV, this is a slam dunk. But hey, maybe that's just me.

 

[NoahFence]

Has anybody seen these memos? Has Comey himself commented on whether they exist?

Oh, sorry, I thought this was a place for skepticism.

Anyone HERE?

I think we're working under the impression that since there's a congressional investigation based on them that they're real. Will you accept they're real after Comey's sworn testimony I wonder?