Justice Department appoints special prosecutor for Trump/Russia

Spindrift said:
He's a Republican president. A lot of Republicans don't care about anything but that, they won't impeach one of their own even if he is an idiot and an embarrassment. It would take something immense for them to impeach him and I'm not sure taking bribes from Russia is big enough for them.
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He WAS a lifelong Democrat until he discovered birtherism. And maybe you missed the last 18 months. Trump may have been rank and file Republicans choice but he was never the choice of the Republican leaders. If they can get rid of him in the next 4 to 6 months the hit next November may not be so bad.

Either way, their choices aren't good.
 
I don't think Trump or Sessions are going to be able to quash this at this point. Hell, they couldn't quash it earlier when there was less evidence evident.
 
In my mind, the two key figures who may be in the FBI's crosshairs are Flynn and Manafort.

Probably not so much Trump himself, except maybe insofar as that "private discussion" he had with Comey might be seen as improper.

Weird that he would ask Pence and Sessions to leave the room so there were no other witnesses.
 
Tony Stark said:
He was the the Director of the FBI from 2001-2013.

He and Comey (then Deputy Attorney General) made the White House back down from their attempts at warrantless wiretapping back in 2004.

This is really bad for Trump. I feel confident that Mueller will prosecute any crimes he uncovers.
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Maybe it's really good for Trump. A man of sterling reputation will lead the investigation. When no evidence of wrongdoing is found, Trump can point to the investigation as proof of the value of his good name.


Of course, that's just one possibility for the future. Other possibilities don't end as well for Trump.
 
Puppycow said:
In my mind, the two key figures who may be in the FBI's crosshairs are Flynn and Manafort.
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Nixon wasn't in the crosshairs at the beginning, but he managed to put himself in them by his conduct.

I suspect Trump will do the same, having learned nothing from history. However, to be fair, we don't have proof of that yet.
 
Puppycow said:
Pence probably can't believe his luck.
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I don't see how Pence can get out of this unscathed: Flynn is going to throw him under the bus in return for some leniency.
There seems to be a lot of evidence that Pence knew full well that Flynn was under investigation when he hired him, but he lied about it - not really keeping up his part of the Oath of Office either.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
I don't see how Pence can get out of this unscathed: Flynn is going to throw him under the bus in return for some leniency.
There seems to be a lot of evidence that Pence knew full well that Flynn was under investigation when he hired him, but he lied about it - not really keeping up his part of the Oath of Office either.
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We can hope. :)
 
If Pence becomes president because of this, he will probably be essentially a lame duck. He won't get much done, and it isn't even guaranteed he would be the nominee in 2020.
 
Excellent choice. He will not be bullied or intimidated or rushed to conclude. Trump has reason to worry.
 
Good political move, now all the Trump administration should say is "No comment, there is an active investigation so lets wait for the results of that".
 
Darat said:
Good political move, now all the Trump administration should say is "No comment, there is an active investigation so lets wait for the results of that".
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Given Trump's pugilistic disposition, I don't think he has the discipline to stay quiet for more than a week, tops.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I don't see how Pence can get out of this unscathed: Flynn is going to throw him under the bus in return for some leniency.
There seems to be a lot of evidence that Pence knew full well that Flynn was under investigation when he hired him, but he lied about it - not really keeping up his part of the Oath of Office either.
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Flynn told Trump's transition team counsel Jan 4 he was under FBI investigation

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/...ald-trump-national-security-adviser.html?_r=0
 
Minoosh said:
Watergate.
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I wish I could find what podcast I heard it on but someone made a good case that the better comparison is the Iran-Contra affair. Nefarious actors take advantage of a President (Candidate) with diminished capacity to make a an illegal deal with a foreign power and the parties align along partisan lines over how it should or should not be investigated. This leaves us looking for to years of Dems attempting to investigate and Reps obstructing.
 
chrispy said:
To the Americans on the board,what is the vibe on the street in your various necks of the woods?
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Politics has been such a hot button issue since the Trump election that no one wants to talk about it. As such, there is no vibe.
 
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