The Trump Presidency

[Stacko]

What an idiot! White House lawyers had to repeatedly advise the Orange Menace not to reach out to Flynn.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ers-warned-trump-stay-away-from-michael-flynn

 

[logger]

Let's see:



-Attempted many times to include Republicans in health care negotiations

More opinions, how about specifics!

-Begged Republicans to make a deal with him to reform entitlements.

Begged them? Is that compromise. Usually it starts with him coming up with a plan, then including provisions they like. You're welcome!

-Obama resisted calls by Congressional Democrats to pursue criminal charges against Bush admin folks.

Resisted? How? Did they do something worthy of prosecution?

-Obama named 3 Republicans to his cabinet

Ah compromise. Are you sure it wasn't because of their experience.

-He tried to work with them in general capacities:

Do you see how foolish you look saying this?

-Extended the Bush tax cuts:

Which year was that?

-Tried to promote bipartisan solution to debt ceiling:

Ahh he tried like a community organizer could. More opinion.

Seriously, I can keep going. It was the defining characteristic of Obama's first term: attempt after attempt to accommodate, negotiate, and work with Republicans only to be rebuffed time and time again, even when he was giving them exactly what they asked for.

Lol
You're going to have to, because you failed miserably!

 

[TraneWreck]

More opinions, how about specifics!

I don't know how to get more specific than a Republican Congressman talking about his negotiations with the White House.

Begged them? Is that compromise. Usually it starts with him coming up with a plan, then including provisions they like. You're welcome!

Good lord, it shouldn't surprise me, but your ignorance is astonishing.

Chained CPI? 2014 budget negotiations, Obama offered to cut SS and Medicare in exchange for revenue increases from Republicans - you know, negotiations. Republicans turned him down, fortunately.

Resisted? How? Did they do something worthy of prosecution?

Many Democrats felt so. That's not really at issue. Whether you believe it or not, Obama set aside any and all investigations into Bush era behavior to appease Republicans.

Ah compromise. Are you sure it wasn't because of their experience.

How do you think that contradicts what I said? Obama tried to create a very centrist cabinet and wanted to bridge the political divide so he chose Republicans for cabinet positions.

They were, of course, qualified. He needed to appoint inept, inexperienced Republican boobs like Trump in order to satisfy your ever-shifting criteria?

How many Democrats are in Trump's cabinet? Bush's?

Do you see how foolish you look saying this?

Haha, it's when you start flailing like this that it becomes obvious that you don't even believe your own ********.

Obama tried to set up regular meetings with Republicans to discuss ideas they could cooperate on.

Which year was that?

2010.

Ahh he tried like a community organizer could. More opinion.

Ah, your usual refrain. What, exactly, have you contributed beyond your unsourced, ignorant thoughts?

He helped organize a bipartisan group of Senators to develop a solution both parties could agree with. This is not my opinion as I quoted Obama speaking favorably about the effort.

This is evidence of Obama trying to work with Republicans to develop bipartisan legislation.

Lol
You're going to have to, because you failed miserably!

Yeah, every single on of those items was substantiated and undercut your stupid point.

You say "lol" because you literally have nothing else.

 

[logger]

I don't know how to get more specific than a Republican Congressman talking about his negotiations with the White House.

I'll help you since you can't. Getting together with republican leadership to hammer out an actual compromise. You using a quote from a liberal is as usual a joke.

Good lord, it shouldn't surprise me, but your ignorance is astonishing.

Chained CPI? 2014 budget negotiations, Obama offered to cut SS and Medicare in exchange for revenue increases from Republicans - you know, negotiations. Republicans turned him down, fortunately.

Turned him down? Obama changed his mind. It was never a serious offer and laughable that you thought it was.

Many Democrats felt so. That's not really at issue. Whether you believe it or not, Obama set aside any and all investigations into Bush era behavior to appease Republicans.

He set them aside because they had NOTHING!

How do you think that contradicts what I said? Obama tried to create a very centrist cabinet and wanted to bridge the political divide so he chose Republicans for cabinet positions.

They were, of course, qualified. He needed to appoint inept, inexperienced Republican boobs like Trump in order to satisfy your ever-shifting criteria?

How many Democrats are in Trump's cabinet? Bush's?

The closes people to him are democrats. Trump is not conservative. Did you think draining the swamp meant bringing in a bunch of establishment democrats?

Haha, it's when you start flailing like this that it becomes obvious that you don't even believe your own ********.

Saying obama worked with them in general capacities is the definition of flailing. Which of course makes you look foolish.

Obama tried to set up regular meetings with Republicans to discuss ideas they could cooperate on.

Sadly he couldn't strike a compromise.

Ah, your usual refrain. What, exactly, have you contributed beyond your unsourced, ignorant thoughts?

Proving how foolish your ridiculous claims are?

He helped organize a bipartisan group of Senators to develop a solution both parties could agree with. This is not my opinion as I quoted Obama speaking favorably about the effort.

This is evidence of Obama trying to work with Republicans to develop bipartisan legislation
Both parties could agree with? As it failed, your side will claim he tried. His whole administration was set up to fail because he could not compromise in meaningful ways.

Clinton is never characterized that way, he made major compromises with republicans to have a lasting legacy of great economic growth.

Yeah, every single on of those items was substantiated and undercut your stupid point.

You say "lol" because you literally have nothing else.

No, you've failed in proving the point as you usually do. Obama was and is one of he most partisan presidents we've had. Your first clue would be his failed presidency. Now we have Trump and I hope he doesn't compromise at all.

 

[TraneWreck]

No, you've failed in proving the point as you usually do.

No, I did. This is the game you play. It's old and tired and not convincing.

As usual, our exchange has gone on long enough to prove to anyone willing to read how utterly without substance your worldview is.

 

[logger]

No, I did. This is the game you play. It's old and tired and not convincing.

One would think with all this compromising Obama did you could show at least one compromise that was carried through. Clinton had many compromises that could be shown. Another clue how your president was a failure.

 

[logger]

As usual, our exchange has gone on long enough to prove to anyone willing to read how utterly without substance your worldview is.

Lol
Long enough to see Obama was a partisan hack and you and others thinking he was some great compromiser is just more fantasy land!

 

[TraneWreck]

One would think with all this compromising Obama did you could show at least one compromise that was carried through. Clinton had many compromises that could be shown. Another clue how your president was a failure.

Yeah, that's moving the goal posts. Obama offered endless compromises, as I and others have shown, but the Republicans decided to refuse to work with him. Turned out to benefit them politically, but it is totally incorrect to assert that Obama didn't reach out to them.

As for accepted compromises:

President Obama announced a tentative deal with Congressional Republicans on Monday to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all income levels for two years as part of a package that would also keep benefits flowing to the long-term unemployed, cut payroll taxes for all workers for a year and take other steps to bolster the economy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/us/politics/07cong.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

You're completely wrong, as usual.

 

[rustypouch]

I don't know how to get more specific than a Republican Congressman talking about his negotiations with the White House.



Good lord, it shouldn't surprise me, but your ignorance is astonishing.

Chained CPI? 2014 budget negotiations, Obama offered to cut SS and Medicare in exchange for revenue increases from Republicans - you know, negotiations. Republicans turned him down, fortunately.



Many Democrats felt so. That's not really at issue. Whether you believe it or not, Obama set aside any and all investigations into Bush era behavior to appease Republicans.



How do you think that contradicts what I said? Obama tried to create a very centrist cabinet and wanted to bridge the political divide so he chose Republicans for cabinet positions.

They were, of course, qualified. He needed to appoint inept, inexperienced Republican boobs like Trump in order to satisfy your ever-shifting criteria?

How many Democrats are in Trump's cabinet? Bush's?



Haha, it's when you start flailing like this that it becomes obvious that you don't even believe your own ********.

Obama tried to set up regular meetings with Republicans to discuss ideas they could cooperate on.



2010.




Ah, your usual refrain. What, exactly, have you contributed beyond your unsourced, ignorant thoughts?

He helped organize a bipartisan group of Senators to develop a solution both parties could agree with. This is not my opinion as I quoted Obama speaking favorably about the effort.

This is evidence of Obama trying to work with Republicans to develop bipartisan legislation.



Yeah, every single on of those items was substantiated and undercut your stupid point.

You say "lol" because you literally have nothing else.

Why bother trying? You know facts don't matter to Republicans and trolls.

 

[skyeagle409]

White House in turmoil.

Sean Spicer under fire during crucial week for Trump

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer is out of the briefing room this week, and already there is speculation about his future.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/10/media/sean-spicer-white-house-press-secretary-job/index.html

It's time to stump, and then dump, the dumb Trump.

 

[Tony Stark]

White House in turmoil.




It's time to stump, and then dump, the dumb Trump.

If I was Spicey I would quit. Being Trump's press secretary has to be an absolutely terrible job.

ETA: I didn't know he is in the Navy.

 

[skyeagle409]

Dumb Trump was warned not the appoint Flynn, but dumb Trump appointed Flynn anyway despite the warnings and the fact that Flynn was fired by Obama. Goes to show that Trump is too dumb to be president.

Senate Intel Committee Subpoenas Michael Flynn in Russia Probe

President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, retired Gen. Michael Flynn, was subpoenaed by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday.

The committee, led by Sens. Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, and Mark Warner, D-Virginia, said it requested documents that members believe to be relevant to its investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-subpoenas-michael-flynn-russia-probe-n757661

Stump and then dump, dumb Trump.

 

[skyeagle409]

Lol
Long enough to see Obama was a partisan hack and you and others thinking he was some great compromiser is just more fantasy land!

Speaking of hacking, whatever happened to dumb Trump's evidence that Obama spied on him? Was Trump's evidence abducted by aliens? After all, Trump is proving that he's spaced-out with each passing day.

Post-Comey Firing, Trump Impeachment Is 'What the Country and the World Need'

New petition says FBI director's firing adds "another powerful reason for [Trump's] impeachment."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...trump-impeachment-what-country-and-world-need

 

[The Don]

Speaking of hacking, whatever happened to dumb Trump's evidence that Obama spied on him? Was Trump's evidence abducted by aliens? After all, Trump is proving that he's spaced-out with each passing day.

Doesn't matter. Now a significant proportion of the US electorate think Obama did tap his phones and another large portion aren't sure but aren't that bothered that the claims are baseless.

The accusations did their job. Hardly anyone remembers that Jeff Sessions perjured himself (and not all of them actually care). Trump's failure to progress many of his key policies has been kept off the front page and Trump has lost little or no support as a result of the accusations.

 

[Noztradamus]

Do you think those missiles that North Korea tows on the parade route are real?

Yes. Do you think they are CGI? (Real what is another question)

 

[uke2se]

Doesn't matter. Now a significant proportion of the US electorate think Obama did tap his phones and another large portion aren't sure but aren't that bothered that the claims are baseless.

The accusations did their job. Hardly anyone remembers that Jeff Sessions perjured himself (and not all of them actually care). Trump's failure to progress many of his key policies has been kept off the front page and Trump has lost little or no support as a result of the accusations.

I don't think this is entirelly fair considering Trump's opinion polls. There's an idiot core of supporters who won't shift for any reason, but other than that, Trump doesn't have much support among the populace. GOP politicians are another matter. To make them flinch, their own prospects need to be threatened. I believe that's coming.

 

[The Don]

I don't think this is entirelly fair considering Trump's opinion polls.

Why not, most people don't seem to be that bothered. For sure Trump is gradually ebbing support but there's no indication of large-scale public outrage.

There's an idiot core of supporters who won't shift for any reason, but other than that, Trump doesn't have much support among the populace. GOP politicians are another matter. To make them flinch, their own prospects need to be threatened. I believe that's coming.

Trump is still at 84% among Republicans and at 40% (and rising) among independents (which is his highest among them since January)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

What is unusual is that he has almost no support from the Democratic Party supporters. IMO that's more indicative of the partisanship at the heart of US politics rather than it being specifically a comment on his (lack of) performance.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Trump is burning bridges/ships , whatever metaphor you want.
Until there is a Republican contender sufficiently removed from Trump (i.e. not Pence until he grows a spine), there is no place for the party to shift TO.
So don't expect any wavering of support for the administration until Trump starts purging where it hurts the GOP personally.

 

[Belz...]

More opinions, how about specifics!

Irony. If only you held yourself to such a high standard.

 

[uke2se]

Why not, most people don't seem to be that bothered. For sure Trump is gradually ebbing support but there's no indication of large-scale public outrage.

I don't have a direct line to the US public, so I wouldn't know. What I do know is that the pressure is on from the press. That Trump is feeling the pressure should be obvious by now.

Trump is still at 84% among Republicans and at 40% (and rising) among independents (which is his highest among them since January)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

Aggregated polls show his job approval at 42 % approve, 53 % disapprove, with a negative trend, and favorability at 41.8 favorable, 54.2 unfavorable, also with a negative trend.

What is unusual is that he has almost no support from the Democratic Party supporters. IMO that's more indicative of the partisanship at the heart of US politics rather than it being specifically a comment on his (lack of) performance.

It's likely both. Trump's policies should be anathema for any DEM voter.