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Merged Trump Fires Comey....

Segnosaur said:
Uhh, no.

From: http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...-more-resources-for-1494434774-htmlstory.html
Comey met last week with Rod Rosenstein, the new deputy attorney general, and asked for both money and personnel to pursue the Russia probe, according to two officials
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One Democratic congressional aide said the request was for a “significant increase in resources.”


Notice there? Its not Comey saying "I asked for more resources". There are Multiple people (who are not Comey) who have said they were privy to Comey asking for more resources.


In other words, the evidence points it it happening as described. Comey asks for more resources, then Trump fires him.




Which means that the DOJ spokesman who is disputing what was said is likely a lying sack of crap.
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No... they were CONGRESSIONAL officials who were told by Comey that he asked for more resources, they were obviously not in the meeting with Comey and his boss.

C'mon man.

the Times broke the story, here is what they say:

Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in resources for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to four congressional officials, including Senator Richard J. Durbin.

Mr. Comey made his appeal to Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, who also wrote the Justice Department’s memo that was used to justify the firing of Mr. Comey this week, the officials said.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/comey-russia-investigation-fbi.html?_r=0
 
The Big Dog said:
wait, are you denying that the DOJ is saying that it did not happen?

Because facts is facts.
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Actually, the spokesman for the DOJ, who was brought in after Trump was elected, and who has served as the mouthpiece for Sessions has said it did not happen. i.e. all we have it this point is a claim by a single individual (with ties to Trump) that it did not happen.

We do not have statements from people like Rosenstein (i.e. someone directly involved in the request) saying it did not happen. But we do have statements from others who were privy to the meeting who said a request was made.

So, either the DOJ spokesman is simply misinformed (since he can't be expected to know everything that happened in every meeting) or he's a lying sack of crap and is covering for Trump.
 
Minoosh said:
Oh, I agree this wasn't about Clinton. But I see the timing as a plus. The safeguards of democracy in the U.S. were already under attack before Comey was fired. IMO it's a good thing Trump's timing looks so bad.

Comey wasn't the only guy in the FBI investigating Russia ties. There are still career prosecutors who have an interest in pursuing Trump ties to Russia. Unfortunately, IMO, the Russia thing is a wild goose chase. Trump publicly called on Russia to interfere in the election process. It was on TV. What can investigators find that's worse?
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They can find financial ties between Trump and Putin. They can find documented evidence of outright treason, collaboration of the Trump campaign in the hack of the DNC, or even evidence of back-channels with the hackers, or those who ordered it.

You might have noticed, but it's become something of a national pastime interpreting what Trump means when he speaks. To his supporters, he always mean what they want him to mean. To those of us with some remaining sanity, he speaks BS. What he meant when he called on Russia to hack the Democrats can be explained away. Hard, documentary evidence, can't to the same extent.

After all this is over, provided the US retains a democratically elected government, people are going to go to court over this. Discovery for that process has started.
 
The Big Dog said:
wait, are you denying that the DOJ is saying that it did not happen?

Because facts is facts.
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No, I am saying that it is not in any way news that they deny it. Liars lie, thats what they do.

That you even bothered to post about their pathetically obvious, self-serving lie is just lazy.
 
Segnosaur said:
Actually, the spokesman for the DOJ, who was brought in after Trump was elected, and who has served as the mouthpiece for Sessions has said it did not happen. i.e. all we have it this point is a claim by a single individual (with ties to Trump) that it did not happen.

We do not have statements from people like Rosenstein (i.e. someone directly involved in the request) saying it did not happen. But we do have statements from others who were privy to the meeting who said a request was made.

So, either the DOJ spokesman is simply misinformed (since he can't be expected to know everything that happened in every meeting) or he's a lying sack of crap and is covering for Trump.
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The claim that they were privy to the meeting is utterly false

Rosenstein through the DOJ spokesman denied it.

C'mon folks, this is so *********** basic at this point.
 
C_Felix said:
Word salad.
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do you really not understand English?

Durbin told the Times that Comey said Comey asked Rosenstein for more money and resources.

Rosenstein through DOJ spox denies that Comey asked him for it.

These are literally undisputed facts regarding the issue.
 
“When asked what the parenthetical ‘C’ meant before a paragraph within the captioned email, [Clinton] stated she did not know and could only speculate it was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order,” read the FBI’s notes from the interview.A “C” in parentheses in the body of an email is used to designate a specific paragraph as containing classified information.
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This despite her training, her signing a document saying she understood this stuff, and of course no other letters of the alphabet appearing in the body of the text like that to even think its "referencing paragraphs in alphabetical order" because that's totally a thing.

But back to the topic at hand...
Comey's firing had nothing to do with Clinton and everything to do with freaking out about the FBI Trump-Russia investigation.
 
Personally, I can't wait for new FBI director Nugent to get to the bottom of all of this.
 
Segnosaur said:
Uhh, no.

From: http://www.latimes.com/politics/was...-more-resources-for-1494434774-htmlstory.html
Comey met last week with Rod Rosenstein, the new deputy attorney general, and asked for both money and personnel to pursue the Russia probe, according to two officials
...

One Democratic congressional aide said the request was for a “significant increase in resources.”


Notice there? Its not Comey saying "I asked for more resources". There are Multiple people (who are not Comey) who have said they were privy to Comey asking for more resources.


In other words, the evidence points it it happening as described. Comey asks for more resources, then Trump fires him.




Which means that the DOJ spokesman who is disputing what was said is likely a lying sack of crap.
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Someone in the Trump administration that is a lying sack of crap? Say it isn't so.
 
The Big Dog said:
do you really not understand English?

Durbin told the Times that Comey said Comey asked Rosenstein for more money and resources.

Rosenstein through DOJ spox denies that Comey asked him for it.

These are literally undisputed facts regarding the issue.
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Your point is, the DOJ is not disputing that Mr. Comey asked for more money, they are saying he did not ask for it.
 
But Sarah Isgur Flores, the Justice Department spokeswoman, said “the idea that he asked for more funding” for the Russia investigation was “totally false.”
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So let me get this straight...

Flores, who is part of the Trump administration, and who has worked closely with Sessions (who earlier had recused himself from the Russian investigation), is someone you think can be trusted to give an honest accounting of a meeting she probably wasn't even at?

Do you notice a pattern here? Those who are saying that Comey asked for more resources include a wide range of people. The people who are claiming that it was a "lie" that Comey asked for more money are all involved with Trump in some way.
 
C_Felix said:
Your point is, the DOJ is not disputing that Mr. Comey asked for more money, they are saying he did not ask for it.
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Your point is, the DOJ is not disputing that Mr. Comey TOLD DURBIN AND OTHER ASSOCIATED CONGRESS CRITTERS THAT HE asked for more money, they are saying he did not ask for it.

See how simple that is?
 
The Big Dog said:
It ain't so, the claim that the Congressional officials were privy to the meeting between Comey and his boss is a lie.
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And you know that how? You think Comey and his staff as well as the White House never told a soul? Aren't you cute.
 
Segnosaur said:
So let me get this straight...

Flores, who is part of the Trump administration, and who has worked closely with Sessions (who earlier had recused himself from the Russian investigation), is someone you think can be trusted to give an honest accounting of a meeting she probably wasn't even at?

Do you notice a pattern here? Those who are saying that Comey asked for more resources include a wide range of people. The people who are claiming that it was a "lie" that Comey asked for more money are all involved with Trump in some way.
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Wow, at this point I can only assume you are deliberately misrepresenting the facts. there is no "wide range of people."
 
acbytesla said:
And you know that how? You think Comey and his staff as well as the White House never told a soul? Aren't you cute.
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face palm.

I know because the Congress people who talked to the times were not at the meeting.

Learn what hearsay is.

Blown away by how obtuse people are.

Really, i am just laying out the facts of what the two sides of the dispute are, and people cannot understand something so simple.
 
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