Near death experiences

JayUtah said:
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There seems to be a lack of what high school policy debaters would call 'clash' between SlipKnot and JayUtah.

You're supposed to actually get into the meat of the question, SlipKnot.

I believe in NDEs.

Ihad one myself...I felt a whole bunch of loving spirits in my hospital room, and I felt like I had a choice about whether to stick around or leave. I thought about this for a minute. There was just so much love in the room.
Death seemed kind of warm and friendly.

Then, five minutes later, after I'd kindly told them to please go away because I hadn't finished my degree yet and my mom needs me to stick around on Earth...a CNA came in to check my vitals and I had no pulse.

I proceeded to have no pulse while I went to the bathroom and came back. I know, you're not supposed to be able to do that, and no one believes that bit, but I'm just sayin' it like I lived it.

The CNA thought the machine was broken, but I asked her to put the pulse oximeter on her own finger, and it worked instantly when she did that.

Turns out my potassium level was so low my heart had almost stopped beating.

I had to drink a whole lot of nasty stuff out of a little plastic red cup (about the size of a ketchup condiment cup at a burger place) to stay alive. I had to drink two cups. It was awful. Think radioactive dog poo awful.

At some point, my then-SO showed up. He thought I was exaggerating about how bad the taste of the potassium was. I asked the RN permission to let him lick the inside of the lid of the cup.

He did. He started gagging and ran to the bathroom. The nurse and I had a good laugh.

So, I'm on SlipKnot's side, but I think that what JayUtah is asking for is reasonable. Come on, SlipKnot. Provide some evidence.
 
Agatha said:
Then why is my immune system attacking my body, putting me in a wheelchair, giving me constant pain, and all the delights that accompany uncontrolled Crohn's disease? What is "perfect" about that life?
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Agatha, I feel you on the Crohn's disease. I have that too. Although, as a complicating issue with me, some idiot surgeon left eight metal staples in my belly the last time I had surgery. I've had adverse reactions to metal before, and I list it routinely as a medical allergy, so I don't know why leaving those in was okay. If you have constant abdominal pain, I recommend noticing if you beep when you go through metal detectors.

What helps me: pretty music (423 hz on YouTube, Hayley Westenra), vodka (Grey Goose), chamomile tea when I can't have vodka because I'm driving a car or something, Olly anti-stress gummies (available at Target), l-theanine (available on Amazon), Yin yoga.

Have tried marijuana for symptom relief in the past and it really, really works (but that comes with a whole host of legal issues and supply issues).

Of course opiate-based medication helps, if you can get some.

Remember to not take NSAIDs, because those cause gastric bleeding. (Well-meaning people will tell you to take Tylenol; for people like us, it's a bad idea.)

Carry on fighting the good fight.

Andrew Sullivan has some good thoughts on forging meaning and building identity out of pain and struggle. It's really hard for human beings to bear burdens when we think it's pointless.
 
stargazer0519 said:
There seems to be a lack of what high school policy debaters would call 'clash' between SlipKnot and JayUtah.

You're supposed to actually get into the meat of the question, SlipKnot.

I believe in NDEs.

Ihad one myself...I felt a whole bunch of loving spirits in my hospital room, and I felt like I had a choice about whether to stick around or leave. I thought about this for a minute. There was just so much love in the room.
Death seemed kind of warm and friendly.

Then, five minutes later, after I'd kindly told them to please go away because I hadn't finished my degree yet and my mom needs me to stick around on Earth...a CNA came in to check my vitals and I had no pulse.

I proceeded to have no pulse while I went to the bathroom and came back. I know, you're not supposed to be able to do that, and no one believes that bit, but I'm just sayin' it like I lived it.

The CNA thought the machine was broken, but I asked her to put the pulse oximeter on her own finger, and it worked instantly when she did that.

Turns out my potassium level was so low my heart had almost stopped beating.

I had to drink a whole lot of nasty stuff out of a little plastic red cup (about the size of a ketchup condiment cup at a burger place) to stay alive. I had to drink two cups. It was awful. Think radioactive dog poo awful.

At some point, my then-SO showed up. He thought I was exaggerating about how bad the taste of the potassium was. I asked the RN permission to let him lick the inside of the lid of the cup.

He did. He started gagging and ran to the bathroom. The nurse and I had a good laugh.

So, I'm on SlipKnot's side, but I think that what JayUtah is asking for is reasonable. Come on, SlipKnot. Provide some evidence.
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Thanks for your input stargazer and please take note slipknot.

I feel some with more medical knowledge than I are going to savage your post - in particular your strolling off to the bathroom without a functioning heart.

Your abbreviations are not helpful also CNA, SO, RN????:confused:
 
My near death experience wasn't in the least bit pleasurable. I felt like I was drowning while being stabbed in the chest. I did see a tunnel though as I was blacking out. I attribute this to my brain not getting enough O2.
 
Craig4 said:
My near death experience wasn't in the least bit pleasurable. I felt like I was drowning while being stabbed in the chest. I did see a tunnel though as I was blacking out. I attribute this to my brain not getting enough O2.
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Yeah God only lets certain people have good NDE's. The rest of us have to die fully to have the full experience.
 
slipknot0129 said:
Yeah God only lets certain people have good NDE's. The rest of us have to die fully to have the full experience.
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Hey- now I think I better understand your purpose for posting here!

Of course it could be a "come on" or "bait and switch" and the "real" after death experience is a horrible, burning Hell for everyone. Right?
 
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