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[phunk]

The solar cells go on the outside.

Seriously? So the brilliant light they are creating with hydrinos will be used to heat up graphite so that it emits light that is then caught by the solar cells? Am I getting this right?

 

[JeanTate]

Thanks for your swift and frank response, markie.

Yeah, yeah, this is from waaaay upthread, but it is relevant to what's being discussed recently.

markie, how do you know that Mills "correctly predicts so many things like ionization energies"?

I'm particularly curious about this in light of what I wrote in post #2838.

My guess is that you merely read something in Mills' weighty tome, and accepted it as true ... without doing any independent checking.

Relevance to recent discussion? These are all quotes from markie's (recent) posts (there are many more, this is just a sample):

"There is no need for concentrators. The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth."

"That page certainly sounds like the SunCell is complete and operating and producing electricity, doesn't it. But it isn't."

"... where the uninitiated might think that BLP has reached the point where the dome is already closed and is giving off brilliant, white, intense blackbody radiation. It isn't. Yet."

"The graphite dome has a hole in the top of it. Nothing to do with the theory."

Unless you are Mills, or a Mills employee, or have taken a recent tour of the facilities near Princeton NJ, how do you know any of this, markie?

The ionization energies and formulae (and some reasoning) for their derivation are in chapters 7 and 10 I believe.

Did you check the derivations (and reasoning) yourself?

If it had appeared in a relevant peer-reviewed journal, you'd have less reason to do your own, thorough, checking; however, it didn't, did it?

At least a couple of interested people have verified that the formulae actually generate the numbers listed in the ionization (binding) energy tables in chapters 7 and 10.

And you know this, how exactly?

I have an Excel spreadsheet generated by one such person (with no affiliation with BLP) where one can see the the formulae and the numbers generated and how they compare to experimental values.

How thoroughly did you check this yourself?

In particular, what checks did you make, to see how well the quoted "experimental values" match those found in relevant papers (and datasets)?

These are for 2 to 20 electron atoms and ions. So for instance Mills has calculated the ionization energies for Potassium, such as for K, for K+1, for K+2, ... to K+18.

And published these in his tome, no doubt.

Let's turn to what you wrote in other posts in this thread, shall we? Two samples only:

"The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth."

"The graphite dome has a hole in the top of it."

Are you a Mills employee? When was the last time you visited 493 Old Trenton Road Cranbury, NJ? If you are not, and have not recently, how did you yourself check the veracity of those (and other) statements?

 

[jrhowell]

Seriously? So the brilliant light they are creating with hydrinos will be used to heat up graphite so that it emits light that is then caught by the solar cells? Am I getting this right?

The explanation given is that the creation of hydrinos generates uV light that is absorbed by the atmosphere. So instead the uV is used to heat the dome, which generates black body radiation, some of which is converted to electricity by the photovoltaic cells. The rest of the energy, which is most of it, is discarded as waste heat.

Rube Goldberg would love it!

(Added: The design is so inefficient that the worry stated previously about the exact shape of the PV cells needed to collect maximum light is just ridiculous.

Molten metal being pumped around, extreme temperatures and pressures, little regard for excess heat removal. If I didn't know better I would think that this was designed for pyrotechnic self-destruction instead of energy production.)

 

[Reality Check]

The ionization energies ...

You still do not understand that Mills book is full of ignorance, delusions, and lies, markie ! The "formulae" are wrong because they come from the ignorance and delusions of Mills as stated in his book. A Mills claim that he can match the minor physical property of ionization energies is

1. Another lie and/or
2. An accident.

Part I: 37 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part II: 24 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part III: 18 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book

 

[markie]

Thanks for your swift and frank response, markie.

Did you check the derivations (and reasoning) yourself?

If it had appeared in a relevant peer-reviewed journal, you'd have less reason to do your own, thorough, checking; however, it didn't, did it?


And you know this, how exactly?


How thoroughly did you check this yourself?

In particular, what checks did you make, to see how well the quoted "experimental values" match those found in relevant papers (and datasets)?


And published these in his tome, no doubt.

Let's turn to what you wrote in other posts in this thread, shall we? Two samples only:

"The light coming directly off the graphite dome itself has the intensity of many dozens of times that of sunlight striking the earth."

"The graphite dome has a hole in the top of it."

Are you a Mills employee? When was the last time you visited 493 Old Trenton Road Cranbury, NJ? If you are not, and have not recently, how did you yourself check the veracity of those (and other) statements?

Dr. Mills has published the results of solving one to twenty electron atoms over a decade ago.

See http://physicsessays.org/browse-jou...ns-for-one-through-twenty-electron-atoms.html

But why not check the results for yourself. Go to table 7.1 in Mills 2016 book, free for download, and see his formulae and figures for the electron radius, electrical energy, magnetic energy, velocity, and special relativity correction factor, and how he combines these to arrive at the 28 ionization energies for Helium and two electron ions, from Lithium up to Copper.

Let me know if you arrive at a something that contradicts what is in the table, and if so I'll program the formulae into my GP Pari calculator and double-check.

 

[markie]

You still do not understand that Mills book is full of ignorance, delusions, and lies, markie ! The "formulae" are wrong because they come from the ignorance and delusions of Mills as stated in his book. A Mills claim that he can match the minor physical property of ionization energies is

1. Another lie and/or
2. An accident.

Part I: 37 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part II: 24 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part III: 18 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book

No, the formulae are correct because they produce correct results, and very economically. You are free to check out table 7.1 and the equations, and show me any contradiction between the formulae and the results in the table, as per my message to Jean Tate.

 

[jonesdave116]

No, the formulae are correct because they produce correct results, and very economically. You are free to check out table 7.1 and the equations, and show me any contradiction between the formulae and the results in the table, as per my message to Jean Tate.

This would be the non-existent levels that he was detecting with an instrument that was incapable of detecting such levels. As per Kunze, yes?

 

[Reality Check]

markie: How do beta decay electrons get thru multiple "orbitspheres"

No, the formulae are correct....

No, any physics based on ignorance, delusions and lies is wrong.

A person could write "formulae" that give ionization energies by hardcoding the experimental values in the "formulae". That does not make any of their "formulae", ignorance or delusions valid !

I will not waste my time looking at Mills tables because everything else in his book is ignorance, delusions and lies. Mills starts with his delusional "orbitsphere" for electron the size of atoms when the evidence is that elections are smaller than protons and act like point particles. This is not something you seem capable of understanding given the unanswered questions and displays of ignorance below.

The question about experiments sending particles through the imaginary "orbitsphere" without any effects has another side - beta decay is atomic nuclei emitting electrons that manage to escape through these imaginary objects!
12 April 2017 markie: How do beta decay electrons get thru multiple "orbitspheres"?
This is easy in real working physics based on real electrons. The beta decay electrons merely pass through an "electron cloud". But in yours and Mills world they have to go through massive, charged spherical shells leaving the shells intact.

Part I: 37 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part II: 24 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book
Part III: 18 items of ignorance, delusions and lies in Mills book

The questions for you:
24 February 2017 markie: Do you know about the Geiger–Marsden (Rutherford) experiment and its successors?
14 March 2017 markie: Do you understand that the mathematics of the Schrodinger equation means nonradiation from electrons in orbitals because electron energy is quantized?
14 March 2017 markie: Do you know that quantization of angular momentum is quantum mechanics and impossible in classical physics?
14 March 2017 markie: What is the measured size of electrons?
24 March 2017 markie: Does dark matter interact electromagnetically with ordinary matter?

Some posts with ignorance leading to lies:
15 March 2017 markie: A lie about "the non radiation is simply 'declared' and the math built around that"
15 March 2017 markie: Ignorance about the Schrödinger equation and energy levels.
15 March 2017 markie: Ignorant idea that a magnetic field turns randomly oriented electrons into 2 orientations.
15 March 2017 markie: A lie about unfamiliarity withy Mills book - I have analyzed a lot of it.
15 March 2017 markie: A lie about QM not explaining spin, see the Dirac equation.

 

[jonesdave116]

@Markie,
And have we forgotten about Phelps (2012)?
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epjd/e2012-30114-5?LI=true

'Tis a bit paywalled, but I'm happy to quote sections of it to show that Mills BS is precisely that. Neither you, nor he, are fooling anybody. It is a scam. Simple. End of story.

 

[ferd burfle]

I wouldn't expect him to know that unless, when holding forth on details of quantum physics, he had shown some sign of understanding quantum physics.

Good point.

 

[Reality Check]

Interpretation of EUV emissions observed by Mills et al. is actually open access.

• Mills claim of identical spectra for different electrode materials is shown to be false by plotting their data in Figures 1-3.
• Mills claim that the observed emission cannot be explained as line emissions from the metal electrodes is mostly false since much of the emission can be explained this way.
• The continuum seen by Mills is probably the instruments used being unable to resolve densely packed spectral lines.

 

[abaddon]

Dr. Mills has published the results of solving one to twenty electron atoms over a decade ago.

See http://physicsessays.org/browse-jou...ns-for-one-through-twenty-electron-atoms.html

But why not check the results for yourself. Go to table 7.1 in Mills 2016 book, free for download, and see his formulae and figures for the electron radius, electrical energy, magnetic energy, velocity, and special relativity correction factor, and how he combines these to arrive at the 28 ionization energies for Helium and two electron ions, from Lithium up to Copper.

Let me know if you arrive at a something that contradicts what is in the table, and if so I'll program the formulae into my GP Pari calculator and double-check.

The crank Panerrella. Are you just engaging in onanism?

 

[Matthew Cline]

Am I understanding this correctly- Brilliant Light Power has made a wonderful new physics discovery that permitted them to manufacture working reactors that they have already demonstrated produce enough power to easily melt thick metal bus bars in a mater of seconds and that generate incredibly massive megawatts of power, and yet somehow this not enough "heat" to boil water without "closing the dome?"

The graphite dome is meant to turn UV into visible light, which would hit photovoltaic cells and be turned into electricity.

They can do it repeatedly on their prototypes, but sticking the prototype in a vat of water doesn't work?

According to BLP/Mills, their goal is to make something which is small enough that it can be used to power cars and/or installed in homes to give electricity, and steam engines would be too large for that.

Sure- hand me my checkbook!

Even if it was real, it would still be a terrible investment, as it would mean that Mills is a perfectionist who switches tracks whenever it turns out that he can't achieve perfection.

 

[Darat]

Dr. Mills has published the results of solving one to twenty electron atoms over a decade ago.

See http://physicsessays.org/browse-jou...ns-for-one-through-twenty-electron-atoms.html

But why not check the results for yourself. Go to table 7.1 in Mills 2016 book, free for download, and see his formulae and figures for the electron radius, electrical energy, magnetic energy, velocity, and special relativity correction factor, and how he combines these to arrive at the 28 ionization energies for Helium and two electron ions, from Lithium up to Copper.

Let me know if you arrive at a something that contradicts what is in the table, and if so I'll program the formulae into my GP Pari calculator and double-check.

Yet for all this genius he still can't find the mail order catalogue to place an order for the commercially available PV cells! Perhaps you could suggest to Mills he uses Google? Most companies don't try to hide their websites from Google.

 

[jrhowell]

According to BLP/Mills, their goal is to make something which is small enough that it can be used to power cars and/or installed in homes to give electricity, and steam engines would be too large for that.

Funny, when I Google "small steam turbine" I see pages of links to manufacturers of very compact devices.

 

[jrhowell]

Now that the Suncell is nearing completion, BLP needs to change their focus to getting the finished product out to the public. A big part of that is obviously the sales organization. I have come up with an appropriate strategy to get this up to speed quickly.

BLP should immediately begin accepting authorized sellers. There would be a modest fee, say $10000 to become one. (This will easily be recouped in the first week of sales.) In this first phase each seller would be encouraged to bring other authorized sellers on board. In order to facilitate this, sellers would receive a fraction of the joining fee paid by whoever they bring on board (and a smaller fraction of the fee those bring in, etc.). In no time time at all the sales organization will be in place and BLP will have generated some extra cash to use in the creation of marketing materials.

I hope they get started on this soon.


Edit to add: I just now looked into trademarking my idea, but it seems that the name "The $10,000 Pyramid" has already been taken by a game show. Oh well.

 

[Mike!]

Now that the Suncell is nearing completion, BLP needs to change their focus on getting the finished product out to the public. A big part of that is obviously the sales organization. I have come up with an appropriate strategy to get this up to speed quickly.

BLP should immediately begin accepting authorized sellers. There would be a modest fee, say $10000 to become one. (This will easily be recouped in the first week of sales.) In this first phase each seller would be encouraged to bring other authorized sellers on board. In order to facilitate this, sellers would receive a fraction of the joining fee paid by whoever they bring on board (and a smaller fraction of the fee those bring in, etc.). In no time time at all the sales organization will be in place and BLP will have generated some extra cash to use in the creation of marketing materials.

I hope they get started on this soon.

I've said from the beginning, BLP has all the hallmarks of a classic MLM pyramid scheme. May as well go all in at this point.

 

[hecd2]

Speaking of the potassium carbonate cell, here is an account of a university in England who (it appears) took this idea of Mills without attribution, and came up with a cell showing anomalous heat. Wonder what become of that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-potash-add-electricity-and-get-amystery.html

Your characterisation of that report is not even close to what the newspaper article from 2003 claims. The only involvement of a UK university, according to that report was: "In a written report, Dr Riley concluded: "Using the apparatus supplied by Gardner Watts and the procedure of analysis suggested by the company, there appears to be an energy gain in the system.". Ain't that familiar?

And if the claims of energy gains of between three and 26 times had actually panned out, Gardner Watts wouldn't be a tiny company which, according to its latest company accounts filed at UK Companies House, has assets about £25,000 to set against debts of £188,000. They would instead have grown in the last 14 years to be a household name.

A story somewhat like Mills in other words, except that GW didn't have the chutzpah to fleece their investors for decades like Mills has.

 

[LTC8K6]

You have repeated this claim about BLP having trouble finding a suitable heat exchanger back in the 1990s. Could you provide a link? If that had to do with their heat producing aqueous cell (with Potassium Carbonate), then what I recall is that it simply did not have the power density required to be a practical device on the market. It had excess energy of about an order of magnitude, but it was low grade heat.

Speaking of the potassium carbonate cell, here is an account of a university in England who (it appears) took this idea of Mills without attribution, and came up with a cell showing anomalous heat. Wonder what become of that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-potash-add-electricity-and-get-amystery.html

In 1992 he was 4 months away from a working prototype 1Kw home heating unit to fulfill a contract, lacking only the heat exchanger.

http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_6_8_1.html

We're pushing right now ... we have a contract we're pursuing that will give us a one kilowatt -- a one thousand watt home heating unit within four months. We have the electrochemical power cell -- it is running. It has the capacity of putting out a thousand watts. And we are waiting for the heat exchanger unit to interface with that [power cell] and we will have a prototype of a home heating unit.'"

 

[Horatius]

And if the claims of energy gains of between three and 26 times had actually panned out, Gardner Watts wouldn't be a tiny company which, according to its latest company accounts filed at UK Companies House, has assets about £25,000 to set against debts of £188,000. They would instead have grown in the last 14 years to be a household name.

I'm reminded of someone's commentary on the "Architects&Engineers for 9/11 Truths" campaign to recruit new members, wherein they pointed out that Richard Gage's incompetence appeared to be contagious: not only could he not do any new and useful analysis of 9/11, but no one he ever recruited could do it either.

We see the same results here: even though this company apparently believed in Mills enough to try to copy his work, they still couldn't manage to make it work as claimed. And yet such obvious failures are still being touted as successes, just like the A&E's list of petition signers.