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That quote about the FBI being keystone cops was on some show on RT by an American discussing some highly technical, and difficult to understand, business about Al Qaeda dating from 1995. I never made any note of his name because I didn't think it important at the time.

There is a quote about this Keystone-cop matter from a Judicial Watch website:

Stop the presses!

Somebody with no credibility cites a news source with no credibility!

Applying your standards for others to yourself, you are obviously incompetent for not investigating the subject any farther.
 
in other words henri can't produce a tv clip as requested

shocking. it does seem he just makes stuff up to try and sound important only to prove he has absolutely no credibility.

There is a quote about this Keystone-cop matter from a Judicial Watch website

wait.....you're hanging your hat on something a person with far less credibility than you stated about an organization he has a vendetta for? ole larry kkklayman?
 
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shocking. it does seem he just makes stuff up to try and sound important only to prove he has absolutely no credibility.



wait.....you're hanging your hat on something a person with far less credibility than you stated about an organization he has a vendetta for? ole larry kkklayman?

Pretty much across the board.

Must be a sad existence where someone needs to make stuff up as they go along to justify their delusions.
 
Inability To Keep Track Of Lies

Over the course of 13 years, it must be difficult keeping track of false claims that lead to fantasy narratives. The most recent example of Henriboy's penchant for trolling on true crime forums is his admission on the prior page that Cathy Perry was "nutso."

He must have forgotten that he has steadfastly backed Perry's bizarre 1984 confession and that he has argued that she was present at the crime scene. In addition, he has claimed that Perry was part of a satanic cult that was led by none other than Allen Mazzerolle.

Yup, the same Allen Mazzerolle who was cleared by the FBI due to the FACT that he was in jail when Colette, Kimmie and Kristen were murdered by Jeffrey MacDonald. Henriboy remains the ONLY living person who has publicly argued that Mazzerolle's jail records were falsified.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
Detective Beasley thought Mazerolle jumped bail because Mazerolle was due to appear in court the day after the MacDonald murders but he never turned up. Instead he went on the run for another year until he was sentenced a year later to five years, of which he only served a few months. Judge Dupree just said Detective Beasley was suffering from a serious illness, but that ignores the facts.

Mazerolle was born in New York and he is now prospering in New Jersey. To my mind he was mixed up with those New York drug dealers, if not the Mafia, who were involved with MacDonald's drug addict brother. I agree there is no evidence he was in a satanic coven, but I think he definitely knew Helena Stoeckley and the rest of them.

Judge 'in bed with the prosecution' Dupree said that any Brady violations by Murtagh were not important because it would not have had any significance to a new jury. I'm not so sure about that.

This is how the biased trial judge Dupree casually dismissed the Stoeckley group in 1985 by saying they were in the Fort Bragg area at the time of the MacDonald murders, but not involved in the MacDonald murders. This raises my eyebrows, if not JTF's eyebrows:

Diane Cazares remembers Stoeckley returning to the Village Shoppe with Greg Mitchell shortly before 11:00 p.m. Id., Appendix Vol. IV at Ex. 10. Where Stoeckley went after she left the Village Shoppe and what she did between 11:00 p.m. when Diane Cazares last saw her and 4:00 a.m. the next morning when she returned to her apartment is not known, but the record does reflect affidavits concerning the whereabouts of the other people Stoeckley says went with her to the MacDonald apartment. Shelby Don Harris was with Diane Cazares at her apartment while she was painting the bathroom until about 5:00 a.m. the next morning and Bruce Fowler was with Kathy Smith at her trailer until late in the morning of February 17, 1970. Id. at Ex. 9, 10. Dwight Edwin Smith does not recall where he was on February 16-17, 1970 but denies any participation in or knowledge of the murders. Id., Appendix Vol. I at Ex. X. Greg Mitchell also did not recall where he was on the night of the murders. He denies being with Stoeckley that night but cannot remember for certain whether he had gone out or was at home with his parents. Id. at Ex. W; Government's Response to Motion to Set Aside Conviction, Ex. D at Attachment 4.

The affidavits of these witnesses account for Helena Stoeckley's whereabouts on the night of the murders except for the period between 11:00 p.m. until 4:00 a.m. It seems likely that despite Mitchell's statement to the contrary, he and Stoeckley, who were dating in early 1970, went somewhere alone for the few hours between the time Diane Cazares last saw them and the time Stoeckley returned to her apartment early the next morning. Whether or not Stoeckley and Mitchell were together during this time, the affidavits of the witnesses who saw Stoeckley that night and were with members of the group whom Stoeckley claims committed the murders directly contradict the substance of her confessions, thereby diminishing their credibility.
 
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Let me get this straight, Henri: Someone did not see Helena during the time period of the murders, so Helena MUST be guilty.

By that standard, since I did not see you during the time period of the murders......
 
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henri - please pay attention to the following FACTS - not opinion - FACTS

(1) What PEB thought is irrelevant
(2) You CANNOT JUMP BAIL until you have been bailed out.
(3) Allen M DID NOT GET BAILED OUT UNTIL MARCH 10, 1970
(4) Allen M WAS IN JAIL ON FEBRUARY 17, 1970.

Provide a source that shows Allen M was due in court on 2/18/70 and what charge he was facing at this alleged hearing. He was not yet due in court for the case in which he was still in jail. Also, funny thing about court cases of persons in jail, they put the prisoners in a jail bus and take them to the Courthouse for their hearings. The FACT that Allen M didn't go to the courthouse on 2/18/70 is proof he didn't have a hearing.

PEB had inorganic brain disorder - he did not always know what he was saying....he is as useless as most of your non-credible sources.
 
henri - please pay attention to the following FACTS - not opinion - FACTS

(1) What PEB thought is irrelevant
(2) You CANNOT JUMP BAIL until you have been bailed out.
(3) Allen M DID NOT GET BAILED OUT UNTIL MARCH 10, 1970
(4) Allen M WAS IN JAIL ON FEBRUARY 17, 1970.

Provide a source that shows Allen M was due in court on 2/18/70 and what charge he was facing at this alleged hearing. He was not yet due in court for the case in which he was still in jail. Also, funny thing about court cases of persons in jail, they put the prisoners in a jail bus and take them to the Courthouse for their hearings. The FACT that Allen M didn't go to the courthouse on 2/18/70 is proof he didn't have a hearing.

PEB had inorganic brain disorder - he did not always know what he was saying....he is as useless as most of your non-credible sources.

It's ridiculous for Mazerolle to suggest to the FBI that he didn't know Helena Stoeckley, or Mitchell. Just because the court records and police records have suspiciously vanished doesn't mean that Mazerolle didn't jump bail. Why did it take another year for Mazerolle to be sentenced? That's not normal even in America. I could pretend that I was in jail as an alibi if I was able to fabricate the documentation to so-called prove it. Detective Beasley was telling the truth but he wasn't believed. It wasn't until the 1980s that Beasley's health really began to fail.

This is some more waffle about the matter with Beasley in conversation with absurdly credulous Butch Madden of the FBI:

MADDEN: Uh, I would like you to describe, uh, the particular location where you found her, and exactly who was in her company at that time.

BEASLEY: I, uh, staked out 1108 Clark Street, That was in, uh, Fayetteville, that was where Helena lived with this group of hippies, or so called hippies. Uh, it was about two, uh, thirty, on the morning of the 18th. Uh, a cream, or a light colored car, pulled into the driveway. I saw Helena in the car and I called Helena to me. Greg Mitchell was in the car, Don Harris was in the car, and I believe, uh, without looking at my report, his name was, uh, Poplin (phonetic), was in the car. Uh, now whether Bruce Fowler was there or not, I'm not sure about that. And there was some others that I, I, I don't know. I, I have records, I did have records, with the names of most of the people that was there, and I cannot locate my records, at the Police Department.

MADDEN: How many, uh, people, uh, specifically are you talking about, uh, can you recall the number of people who were with her at that time?

BEASLEY: Oh, gosh, there was six or seven people with her, uh, the car was completely full. It, it was completely filled up when it pulled up there. And, uh, they were, they were yelling and laughing, going on.

MADDEN: Was Bruce Johnny Fowler in the car?

BEASLEY: I don't recall Fowler being there. But I do recall Don Harris being there.

MADDEN: Was Allen Mazerolle in the car?

BEASLEY: Allen Mazerolle was there.

MADDEN: Uh, you're quite sure in you mind that, uh, uh, Fowler and Mazerolle were in the car?

BEASLEY: I'm not sure about Fowler.

MADDEN: Uh, you're not sure about Mr. Fowler, but you are sure about Mr. Mazerolle?

BEASLEY: And Greg Mitchell.

MADDEN: And Greg Mitchell.

BEASLEY: Don Harris.

MADDEN: Uh, there's no doubt in your mind, uh, at this time, that uh, Mazerolle was in the vehicle?

BEASLEY: Well, I, I don't think there's any doubt at all. Of course, now you know this was a long time ago. And I, without having records to refer to, its hard, but, uh, I'm, I'm positive he was there, almost positive he was there.

MADDEN: O.K. To the best of your recollection

BEASLEY: At the best of my recollection,

MADDEN: Mazerolle was, uh, in the vehicle with Helena and the, and the other individuals.

BEASLEY: Yes, uh, he was a close, uh, companion of Helena's anyway.

MADDEN: Was Mazerolle, uh, Helena's boyfriend, to your knowledge?

BEASLEY: Yes he was.

MADDEN: Had you ever, uh, arrested Mazerolle for any reason?

BEASLEY: Yes sir I did.

MADDEN: Uh, could you please tell me to the best of your recollection when and why you arrested Mazerolle.
 
henri let us try this again: YOU CANNOT JUMP BAIL UNTIL YOU HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN BAILED OUT. The jail records are still around showing that Allen M was arrested at the end of January and he remained in jail until MARCH 10, 1970. The bail bonds records are still available and they show that he was bailed out on MARCH 10, 1970.

PEB's "best of recollection" was flawed by his inorganic brain disorder. It is really that simple. Allen M WAS NOT IN THE CAR (if PEB even really stopped the car he describes) because HE WAS IN JAIL.

Now, what offense was he allegedly expected to be in court for on 2/18/70? IF he had a court date as you earlier proclaimed, he would have been taken from the jail to the courthouse, attended his hearing, and then been returned to jail. That is how it works here in the USA.

Why did it take a year for him to be sentenced? Because the dockets are full to the brim with cases and sometimes it takes that long. Also possible is that there were continuances that increased the length of time. But seriously, until recently you claimed he didn't go to court for the charges for which he was in jail on the night of the murders now you are complaining that he wasn't sentenced soon enough?

Oh, and IF Allen M had been on bail and then JUMPED BAIL they'd have sent a bounty hunter after him and brought him back to jail where he would then have had to try and find another bondsman to get him out or he would have remained until the hearing/trial for his charges.
 
Focus, Henrisan

HENRIBOY: I'm not going to give you a pass for avoiding my challenges and posting debunked testimony. You have yet to name a single viable suspect that was "disregarded" by the CID and/or FBI. You have yet to produce a single salient rebuttal to the FACT that the CID reinvestigation and early 80's FBI investigation were beyond thorough. You have yet to produce a single lab document that sources an evidentiary item to a known intruder suspect. The simple fact is that the totality of the evidence in this case proves beyond ALL doubt that Jeffrey MacDonald is a mass murderer.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
You Have Yet To...

HENRIBOY: You have yet to...

- Name a single viable suspect that was "disregarded" by the CID and/or FBI

- Produce a single salient rebuttal to the FACT that the CID reinvestigation and early 80's FBI investigation were beyond thorough

- Provide a single lab document that sources an evidentiary item to a known intruder suspect

- To produce a single appellate court decision whose conclusion was that Judge Dupree was biased

- To produce a single appellate court decision whose conclusion was that Judge Fox was/is biased

- To produce a single district and/or appellate court decision whose conclusion was that the FBI committed "forensic fraud"

For the past 13 years, the totality of your posts consist of mythical narratives based on your musings/opinions of data produced by dubious sources. Outside of the occasional copying and pasting of selected trial testimony from John Thornton or Charles Morton, most of your source material is a mixture of hyperbolic rhetoric by MacDonald advocates or self-serving commentary by individuals who have gotten their butts kicked by investigative journalists and/or the appellate courts.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
henri let us try this again: YOU CANNOT JUMP BAIL UNTIL YOU HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN BAILED OUT. The jail records are still around showing that Allen M was arrested at the end of January and he remained in jail until MARCH 10, 1970. The bail bonds records are still available and they show that he was bailed out on MARCH 10, 1970.

PEB's "best of recollection" was flawed by his inorganic brain disorder. It is really that simple. Allen M WAS NOT IN THE CAR (if PEB even really stopped the car he describes) because HE WAS IN JAIL.

Now, what offense was he allegedly expected to be in court for on 2/18/70? IF he had a court date as you earlier proclaimed, he would have been taken from the jail to the courthouse, attended his hearing, and then been returned to jail. That is how it works here in the USA.

I just think Mazerolle should write a book on how to get away with a horrible murder, and how to fool the FBI, and lie like a trooper, and provide false documentation about bail bonds to fool the American media and internet posters.

I was watching TV yesterday and I switched to that American Unsolved Mysteries show where much to my surprise they were discussing the MacDonald case. I may have missed part of it, as from what I could see it started with Jeff MacDonald on a hospital trolley. It was probably a repeat from years back.

It then switched to a broadcast quality clip of Helena Stoeckley being interviewed,which interested me as I have only seen poor quality clips of her in the past. Helena said she was wearing a black skirt at the MacDonald murders. I think she said she borrowed a wig and that she did say acid is groovy, which is so controversial, and she did admit that Friar made that wrong number phone call in the middle of the MacDonald murders. Helena also said she was with Greg Mitchell in the bedroom and that Greg Mitchell was on top of Colette stabbing her. Helena did say things went bad.

It then switched to Bryant Lane saying Mitchell confessed to him even though Lanes's divorced wife is now in the MacMurderer camp on that biased yuku MacDonald forum.

Then there was clip of that trickster prosecution lawyer Blackburn being interviewed who said he just knows MacDonald did it.

It ended with a clip of a youthful MacDonald in handcuffs saying he will be vindicated, but he didn't seem to know how exactly.
 
I just think Mazerolle should write a book on how to get away with a horrible murder, and how to fool the FBI, and lie like a trooper, and provide false documentation about bail bonds to fool the American media and internet posters.

I was watching TV yesterday and I switched to that American Unsolved Mysteries show where much to my surprise they were discussing the MacDonald case. I may have missed part of it, as from what I could see it started with Jeff MacDonald on a hospital trolley. It was probably a repeat from years back.

It then switched to a broadcast quality clip of Helena Stoeckley being interviewed,which interested me as I have only seen poor quality clips of her in the past. Helena said she was wearing a black skirt at the MacDonald murders. I think she said she borrowed a wig and that she did say acid is groovy, which is so controversial, and she did admit that Friar made that wrong number phone call in the middle of the MacDonald murders. Helena also said she was with Greg Mitchell in the bedroom and that Greg Mitchell was on top of Colette stabbing her. Helena did say things went bad.

It then switched to Bryant Lane saying Mitchell confessed to him even though Lanes's divorced wife is now in the MacMurderer camp on that biased yuku MacDonald forum.

Then there was clip of that trickster prosecution lawyer Blackburn being interviewed who said he just knows MacDonald did it.

It ended with a clip of a youthful MacDonald in handcuffs saying he will be vindicated, but he didn't seem to know how exactly.

You have no credibility. What you believe or think about the case is immaterial.

Your man crush was found guilty on the evidence provided and no amount of uninformed wishful thinking on your part will change that.
 
I just think Mazerolle should write a book on how to get away with a horrible murder, and how to fool the FBI, and lie like a trooper, and provide false documentation about bail bonds to fool the American media and internet posters.

this is one of the most ridiculous comments ever even for you henri. The JAIL RECORDS EXIST SHOWING WHEN ALLEN M WAS ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL. THE BOND DOCUMENTATION EXISTS THAT SHOW HE WAS BAILED OUT ON 3/10/70. The FBI was not "fooled" because they can see the certified, verifiable documentation. Allen M was in jail on 2/17/70 arrested by Prince Beasley after being fingered by snitch Helena Stoeckley. You apparently do not realize that you make inmate look even more guilty with these ridiculous accusations, but you do. You make him an even bigger object of ridicule that the only supporters he has left argue red herrings, facts not in evidence, and complete fabrications! Henri fabricates make-believe items and lies like a trooper and then points the finger at others as if that will somehow lend him credibility. It would be laughable if it was not so sad.....
 
You have no credibility. What you believe or think about the case is immaterial.

Your man crush was found guilty on the evidence provided and no amount of uninformed wishful thinking on your part will change that.

It's not me who isn't credible. This is from a recent People Magazine about the matter:

Several people say Stoeckley, a troubled drug addict and narcotics informant for Fayetteville, North Carolina, and Nashville, Tennessee, police who died in the ’80s, admitted before her death that she was at the MacDonald house the night of the killings. (Her then-boyfriend, Greg Mitchell, also repeatedly confessed and has also since died.)

“The government fought very vigorously to keep that evidence [Stoeckley’s statements] out of the trial. They did not want the jury to hear that,” Miles explained.

Stoeckley testified but said she could not remember where she was the night of the murders. In 2005, a federal marshal came forward to say former prosecutor Jim Blackburn threatened to charge her with murder if she testified she was there that night. Blackburn denies the charge, which is part of MacDonald’s appeal.

Judge Dupree also would not allow the testimony of six other people — including two police officers for whom Stoeckley was an informant — about the confessions she made to them.

“They made their legal arguments, Jeff’s lawyers made their legal arguments, and ultimately Judge Dupree decided that Helena was not a credible witness and that he was not going to allow the jury to hear those confessions,” Miles said. “And that was an incredibly damaging blow to the defense because of the power of that evidence.”

On January 26, MacDonald will go before an appellate court — citing confessions Stoeckley continued to make after the trial as well as Mitchell’s and several pieces of forensic evidence – in pushing to have his convictions overturned. But the prosecutors remains adamant he’s guilty.

U.S. Attorney John Stuart Bruce declined to comment.
 
Bryant Lane now believes your man crush is guilty.

Now, answer JTF's challenge. You've dawdled long enough.
 
this is one of the most ridiculous comments ever even for you henri. The JAIL RECORDS EXIST SHOWING WHEN ALLEN M WAS ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL. THE BOND DOCUMENTATION EXISTS THAT SHOW HE WAS BAILED OUT ON 3/10/70. The FBI was not "fooled" because they can see the certified, verifiable documentation. Allen M was in jail on 2/17/70 arrested by Prince Beasley after being fingered by snitch Helena Stoeckley. You apparently do not realize that you make inmate look even more guilty with these ridiculous accusations, but you do. You make him an even bigger object of ridicule that the only supporters he has left argue red herrings, facts not in evidence, and complete fabrications! Henri fabricates make-believe items and lies like a trooper and then points the finger at others as if that will somehow lend him credibility. It would be laughable if it was not so sad.....

Mazerolle told the FBI that he first met Helena Stoeckley in Decmber 1969 and that she was an unstable person, but he categorically denied knowing any of the other suspects. That is something that could be verified if somebody told the truth, and tried to elicit the truth. Astute detectives would have further investigated.

This is what Ted Gunderson said about Mazerolle. I think it's the truth:

Miss Stoeckley told others that Mazerolle sometimes had beaten her when she 'used to deal for him' in drugs.

Beasley and detective John DeCarter arrested the 21-year old Mazerolle with another man on Jan. 28 1970, and charged them with possession and transportation of drugs after 559 doses of LSD were allegedly found in their vehicle.

"Mazerolle was free on $2000 bond at the time of the murders. Like Sanders, he jumped bond and fled, according to court records.

A warrant was issued for his apprehension on March 25, 1970, after he failed to appear in court. Authorities discovered Mazerolle had been picked up for an unspecified offense in Marietta, Ga., and was being held in Cobb County jail there.

"Cobb County authorities surrendered Mazerolle to Army representatives, but before the soldier could be returned to Ft. Bragg he made good an escape.

"By the time Mazerolle was again located in November, 1970, in the custody of police at Myrtle Beach, S.C., MacDonald had been freed by the Army investigation and Army agents were supposedly probing other possibilities.

""Nevertheless there is no evidence Mazerolle was ever questioned about the MacDonald case when he was returned to Fayetteville to face the drug charges.

He subsequently stood trial in Cumberland County Superior Court where he pleaded guilty to the charges on Jan.14, 1971. He was sentenced to not less than three years nor more than five years imprisonment.

"After serving 11 months of the sentence he was paroled on Nov. 11 1971. Upon completion of all parole requirements on July 25, 1973 he disappeared from the area apparently never having been interrogated in depth concerning the MacDonald murders.
 
Ted Gunderson? the disgraced former SAC FBI who was investigated by his own agency and never met a Satanic Cult theory he didn't like and who is even less credible then Helena Stoeckley? What does it matter when Allen M met Helena or didn't meet Helena? THE FACT IS ALLEN MAZZEROLE WAS IN JAIL ON THE NIGHT OF 2/17/70 AND COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. ALSO, HELENA KNEW THAT ALLEN WAS IN JAIL WHEN SHE NAMED HIM AS A PARTICIPANT BECAUSE SHE IS THE SNITCH WHO FINGERED HIM.

Allen M is not a suspect, not a viable suspect or a suspect in any other mind but yours. Get over it! Answer JTF's challenge - either meet the challenge or go away.....

and the recent PEOPLE Magazine article was incredibly slanted and full of BS that anyone with a computer and google could debunk. if you check out the comments for those articles etc. 99% of the comments are that the article was a piece of crap even worse than Fatal Joke as far as accuracy. Bryant Lane has told the defense that he does not believe inmate to be innocent any longer and they are supposed to leave him alone, not use his name and not to contact him or use his name......cleo is asking for trouble by using his name without permission.....
 
Mazerolle told the FBI that he first met Helena Stoeckley in Decmber 1969 and that she was an unstable person, but he categorically denied knowing any of the other suspects. That is something that could be verified if somebody told the truth, and tried to elicit the truth. Astute detectives would have further investigated.

This is what Ted Gunderson said about Mazerolle. I think it's the truth:

Perfectly in character.

Neither of you has a shred of credibility.
 
You Can Run, But You Can't Hide

HENRIBOY: You have yet to...

- Name a single viable suspect that was "disregarded" by the CID and/or FBI

- Produce a single salient rebuttal to the FACT that the CID reinvestigation and early 80's FBI investigation were beyond thorough

- Provide a single lab document that sources an evidentiary item to a known intruder suspect

- To produce a single appellate court decision whose conclusion was that Judge Dupree was biased

- To produce a single appellate court decision whose conclusion was that Judge Fox was/is biased

- To produce a single district and/or appellate court decision whose conclusion was that the FBI committed "forensic fraud"

For the past 13 years, the totality of your posts consist of mythical narratives based on your musings/opinions of data produced by dubious sources. Outside of the occasional copying and pasting of selected trial testimony from John Thornton or Charles Morton, most of your source material is a mixture of hyperbolic rhetoric by MacDonald advocates or self-serving commentary by individuals who have gotten their butts kicked by investigative journalists and/or the appellate courts.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com
 
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