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[JeanTate]

It's a mixture of gas (dihydrino) and plasma (H+ , -, and catalyst ions) as far as I can tell.

I recommend that when you're in a hole, stop digging.

Counter: up to four now, I think.

 

[Reality Check]

... For fun, here's a portion of the abstract from
https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.5714

Blindly accepting Mills fantasies followed by a "god of the gaps" argument, markie !
A mystery cannot be explained by just asserting that it is explained based on ignorance. The first step is fixing the theory.
One you know about physics then you will know how irrelevant that paper is (hint - where are spectral lines mentioned in the abstract?).

 

[JeanTate]

If there no satisfactorily proven, working prototype in 48 months, I promise to come back and eat humble pie before you, without a fork. My Google Calendar for Friday, February 26th 2021 now has an entry.

Cool!

I guess, then, your work here is done (assuming that you take my recommendation to stop digging).

See you then, then?

 

[Reality Check]

PS My BSc was from a real university, in microbiology.

That may explain why you are willing to blindly believe a person - because they have a slightly similar background.

Mills got a B.A. degree in chemistry - the Franklin & Marshall College is a liberal arts university. Mills then went to Harvard Medical School was awarded his medical degree in 1986 (thus his Dr. is medical not physics). Did some MIT courses.

PS My MSc was from a real university, in physics, the last 2-3 years in condensed matter physics. That is why I can easily recognize the obvious ignorance, gibberish and fantasies in Mills book. But anyone with undergraduate courses in physics such as you can do the same, e.g. what are essentially lies about the Schrödinger equation having to include spin and be relativistic because that is the Dirac equation.

An anecdote: One 3rd year pure math course was a research project - pick a topic of mathematical interest and write a paper on it. My paper was on the Dirac equation. It was interesting how just deriving a relativistic counterpart to the Schrödinger equation introduced spin.

 

[Reality Check]

...Now, my point is, that the idea had been invented a while before, by a clever guy who could not get it published in the appropriate places, and it was published in a journal specialising in (English) lifts, or (US) elevators. You would not find a less appropriate journal too easily. Sometimes the author has to publish where publication is accepted, and that is because reviewers often do not understand new ideas, and papers are therefore restricted to polishing up known topics.

The key part of Publishing is a wide variety of inappropriate journals is a hint of dubious papers. is that phrase "wide variety". Mills and his coauthors have published papers on close to the same topic in a wide variety of inappropriate journals over a period of about 25 years.
Your example is interesting but

• that person did not publish "the idea of strong focusing" in multiple journals over a period of decades.
• there is no evidence presented that reviewers did not understand that idea.
  Or for that matter that the idea was submitted to other journals.

What I have found differs. Brookhaven scientists derived strong focusing independently in 1952 and then: Strong focusing

The Brookhaven team later learned that Nicolas Christofilos, an electrical engineer, had conceived strong focusing in 1949, but his manuscript had not been published because of filing errors. When Christofilos heard about Brookhaven’s discovery, he came forward and the lab hired him as work began on a new strong-focusing accelerator, the Alternating Gradient Synchrotron.

Wikipedia has Nicolas Christofilos patenting his idea, not publishing it.
Nicholas Christofilos

In 1946 he independently developed ideas for a synchrotron and in 1949 he conceived the strong-focusing principle. Rather than publishing in a journal he submitted a patent application in the US[1] and Greece. His discovery went unnoticed for several years, and strong focusing was rediscovered by Ernest Courant et al. in 1952[2] (who acknowledged his priority one year later),[3] and applied to accelerators at BNL, Cornell and CERN.

 

[Reality Check]

The fact is, you and others apparently simply don't believe this kind of result, and others like it.

The fact is that we do not believe Mills opinion or that of his employees when published in an inappropriate journal, especially it looks like there is a lie in the abstract.

The apparent lie is that Mills claims that the formation of hydrinos needs a catalyst of Ar+, K or He+. Mills cites a paper by himself using helium-hydrogen plasma. But the Sun is made of helium-hydrogen plasma and all he needed to do is cite the published solar spectrum with those "fractional" spectral lines. The lack of citation makes that detection dubious enough to be suspected to be a lie. Mills may have a fantasy that the hydrino formation magically goes away when H is more than 2% as in his experiment. Solar plasma is hydrogen 73.46% and helium 24.85%.

FYI, markie, UV spectral lines are of great interest to astronomers studying the Sun. They come from plasma in the transition region where the atmospheric plasma is heating up from a few 1000 K to a couple of million K in the corona. The mechanisms causing that heating are still not fully known and are an ongoing field of research: coronal heating problem.

 

[Reality Check]

You may be confusing 'Rydberg states" with Rydberg matter.

It is the words "fractional" and "states" that makes Mills statement ignorant to the point of delusion, markie.

The Rydberg formula is an empirical formula based on empirical data giving the relation between the wavelengths in spectral lines. It was presented on 5 November 1888.

• There are no "states" in the Rydberg formula.
• The Rydberg formula has an integer in it.

 

[halleyscomet]

I'm not sure if you're being serious in your first two paragraphs. In case you are, Mill's SunCell has H2 gas added to it. The SunCell does not produce it. What the SunCell produces is dihydrino gas from the H2 gas, in an environment which in essence is a silver boiler, with small amounts of a recycled oxide, and an electric current at small voltage administered when necessary.

Who cares? The SunCell doesn't work. Even the Mills media about it describes what amounts to an elaborate fuse that blows out. You might as well reference the warp drive of the Enterprise.

The SunCell is an irrelevant dead end. It will never see commercial production. Mills might eventually market a conventional generator using the SunCell name, but it won't be based upon his Hydrino claims.

 

[Reality Check]

Page 227: Hydrino Catalyzed Fusion is an ignorant fantasy

Some of the ignorance, lies and gibberish in Mills book - volume 1 (1800 pages!)
27 February 2017: Page 227: Hydrino Catalyzed Fusion is an ignorant fantasy.
Fusion does not magically happen because he has a fantasy that hydrinos get smaller. Use that fantasy and we equally probably get neutrons (electron capture)!

The comparison with muon-catalyzed fusion is ridiculous without any credible evidence that hyrinos exist, e.g. a replicated experiment detecting enough of the hydrino spectral lines to be unique to them.

 

[Reality Check]

Page 227: A lie that hot fusion is impractical from imaginary "too low" fusion rates

27 February 2017: Page 227 - A lie that hot fusion is impractical because of imaginary "too low" fusion rates, tritium assertions, etc.

• The scientists that are working on fusion reactors are confident that the rate of fusion will be high enough to make them practical sources of energy.
• Using the deuterium-tritium (DT) reaction and breeding more of the rare tritium is what makes reactors like ITER more economical.
• We have had many decades of experience of handling "highly radioactive" substances. The bigger issue with tritium is its ability like hydrogen to seep through fittings but we also have decades of experience with hydrogen!
• Fusion reactors are safer than fission reactors. If a disaster happens fusion reactors cease working - no runaway reactions!
• Neutrons as output is optional.
  The output from DT fusion will be neutrons - not strictly "radiation".
  The output from DD fusion will be half H and half n.
  The output from DHe fusion will be He and H.
  The output from HB fusion will be He.

 

[SezMe]

Congratulations! You've discovered an additional verification vector. If there's ANY validity to Mills and his research he and his staff will be riddled with the cancers typical of high level X-Ray exposure.

I hate to throw (hydrino-less) water on this astute observation but Mills, et. al. wear full body suits made of one-inch thick lead while in the laboratory. May I suggest, however, a somewhat different line of research to pursue: The psychological effects of wearing 500 pounds of lead while pursuing the Cottingley Fairies hydrino.

 

[SezMe]

If there no satisfactorily proven, working prototype in 48 months, I promise to come back and eat humble pie before you, without a fork. My Google Calendar for Friday, February 26th 2021 now has an entry.

Wait a frikken minute. Where did 4 years come from? IIRC, we're supposed to see a working prototype before the year is out. How 'bout coming back on, say, December 24th and giving us a gift of a humble pie chow-down? Even by your own timeline, 4 years is waaaaay too long to wait.

 

[halleyscomet]

Wait a frikken minute. Where did 4 years come from? IIRC, we're supposed to see a working prototype before the year is out. How 'bout coming back on, say, December 24th and giving us a gift of a humble pie chow-down? Even by your own timeline, 4 years is waaaaay too long to wait.

I took the sudden timeline extension as a tacit admission he knew no such generator will ever be produced. Four years from now the flesh and blood human behind the username we're working with will likely have discarded that digital shell and have moved on to a new series of sock puppets. At that point they can disavow all association with that other identity.

"I don't know about the SunCell or who BLP was but Mills and the SolarTurbo by Blinding Brilliance Energy is going to be in production within the next 18 months!"

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Reality Check]

Page 227 - some of Mills "objections" also apply to his "Hydrino Catalyzed Fusion"

A follow-on to 27 February 2017: Page 227 - A lie that hot fusion is impractical because of imaginary "too low" fusion rates, tritium assertions, etc.
27 February 2017: Page 227 - some of Mills "objections" also apply to his "Hydrino Catalyzed Fusion".
If Mills wants to catalyze DT fusion then he also needs his expensive and not available tritium and there will be the same neutron flux generated! Of course there will be no tritium breeding because it is "highly radioactive" making Mills fusion reactors totally uneconomical.

My guess - fantasies about fusing heavier elements?

 

[jaydeehess]

The SunCell is an irrelevant dead end. It will never see commercial production. Mills might eventually market a conventional generator using the SunCell name, but it won't be based upon his Hydrino claims.

Um, probably not. In order to be worth anything it would have to output more power than it uses,
OR
convert another form of energy to electrical, as per conversion of gravitational potential energy contained in a body of water held at a set height into electric current.

 

[jaydeehess]

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[halleyscomet]

Um, probably not. In order to be worth anything it would have to output more power than it uses,

OR

convert another form of energy to electrical, as per conversion of gravitational potential energy contained in a body of water held at a set height into electric current.

When I wrote "conventional generator by another name" I was thinking of something along the lines of a biodiesel generator with built in filtration marketed under that name.

 

[holversb]

Stumbled across this long and interesting conversation, and while I don't pretend to have read much of it (having seen the same debates unfold on chat forums for 15 years) I did make a correction to the blog post "Accountability" in light of some confusion.

Joseph Conrads was incorrectly anglicized from Johannes ("Hans") Conrads, the Director of the Institut fur Niedertemperature-Plasmaphysik in Greifswald, Germany, a lead author on a paper co-published with Mills, and among the most respected plasma physicists in the world. His work is discussed in Chapter 7 of Randell Mills and the Search for Hydrino Energy.

This topic is enormously complex and I encourage those even remotely curious about the topic to consult the book, which summarizes 30 years of research in a lucid and enjoyable way; and allows the reader to form their own opinion of the hydrino saga.

best,

BH

 

[SezMe]

Welcome to the ISF, holvesb.

Do you have a link to the paper you mention? When was it, and the book, published?

I'd be interested in a précis of the essential parts of that book that bear directly on Mills' work being discussed in this thread.

 

[Darat]

Promise us you won't use SunCell technology to power your home in the future. You wouldn't want your home powered by nothing at all would we. It would violate the conservation of energy.

Thankfully I'm using one of his working 2001 generators so I have no need to change it for at least another 30 years. Indeed I need to make a provision in my will for it since if it has the lifespan claimed by Mills it is going to outlast me by several decades....