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Why I will never regret voting for Donald Trump

Architect said:
I have met Mr. Trump. He is no fool.
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I've heard this from more than one person, but I just don't buy it. There's no way a sensible, intelligent human being gets up in the morning, puts on a pair of pants and then turns into this buffoon.
 
Foolmewunz said:
That pretty much depends on how you define "right guy". My checklist includes [ x ] Less likely to get lots of people killed. In fact, that's my over-riding priority.
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#ThatsHowYouGetNevilleChamberlain

Sometimes going with the guy who will get less people killed is what ends up getting more people killed.
 
Varanid said:
I've heard this from more than one person, but I just don't buy it. There's no way a sensible, intelligent human being gets up in the morning, puts on a pair of pants and then turns into this buffoon.
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Someone said about Trump, "You like him until you get to know him."
 
I'm going to turn this around. I didn't vote for Trump but I might be willing to change my views if in four years we have:

  • 99% of Americans have affordable health care options
  • Middle class and poor have job opportunities and real incomes are increasing
  • We have clean waters and clean air and half of Florida is not under water
  • We are not embroiled in any major war and we have friendly relations with the world
  • Progress on reducing the national debt
  • We can be confident the government is working for us not for an elite few who influence politicians.

I don't have high hopes.
 
JoeBentley said:
Also.

If the Democratic Party runs any candidate in the 2020 election which is already a well known member of the party they will lose and they deserve it.

The Democrats need a fresh face. The concept of "The establishment" is what lost them this one.
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There are some good candidates out there. I like Jason Kander (MO) as a potential candidate. Came close to unseating Roy Blunt in a deep Red state. Probably would have in an honest election.

I think that the OP is severely underestimating just how much damage might be done in the next few years that might be irreversible. Consider Social Security and Medicare. If the Repukes get their way and fully privatize or even end those programs, then give away the Trust Funds in tax cuts, those funds took almost 80 years to accumulate. Even if we did manage to also retake Congress by then, that it would still take decades to restore them to what they were, and the elderly/disabled don't have that kind of time.
 
seayakin said:
I'm going to turn this around. I didn't vote for Trump but I might be willing to change my views if in four years we have:

  • 99% of Americans have affordable health care options
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That's just over three million people without affordable healthcare.
 
Crossbow said:
The best thing that I have seen regarding Trump becoming the President is the comedy gold mine it has been for people like Alec Baldwin, Stephen Colbert, Samantha Bee, and just about anyone else into political comedy.
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It's all fun and games, until someone gets polonium/dioxine poisoning...
 
Varanid said:
I've heard this from more than one person, but I just don't buy it. There's no way a sensible, intelligent human being gets up in the morning, puts on a pair of pants and then turns into this buffoon.
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And yet he got elected into the most powerful position in the world against someone who was supposed to be a shoe-in...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
JoeBentley said:
There's a lot of political arguments or desires out there that, when you get right down to it, boil down to "I want the 'Other side' to screw up so bad that 'my side' finally gets everything it wants."

I've always found these rather distasteful. I did not vote for Trump. I did not want him to be our President. But I don't want the whole system do fail just so I can feel smug about "the other side" failing.
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And then you say this:

I want Donald Trump to fail politically. ("Fail" isn't exactly the term, but it's close.) But I want it to happen in a way that doesn't hurt the country. I still want him to succeed to a certain degree as President, because that's what's best for the country.
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What is best for the country is for him to do a good job, period. Not a little, or just enough so he can still look bad to you. How could that even work? Gawd forbid you were wrong! What a stupid attitude.
 
Guy who wants to dismantle the EPA now in charge of the EPA. Woman who rejects the premise of public education now in charge of the Department of Education, etc.

I'm all for streamlining government bureaucracy, but wholesale dismantling/neutering of agencies is bad news.
 
mgidm86 said:
And then you say this:



What is best for the country is for him to do a good job, period. Not a little, or just enough so he can still look bad to you. How could that even work? Gawd forbid you were wrong! What a stupid attitude.
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Not necessarily. Short term benefits may be outweighed by long term considerations.

If Trump is a brilliant president, we encourage the further coarsening of the campaign, the acceptance of blatant and obvious lies in public statements, the acceptance of celebrities with no background in politics for our top office, etc.

I'd like Trump to do well, but not so well that his behavior is normalized.
 
Mumbles said:
No, he was not. I'll give that Sanders did relatively well. However, he did not reach out to the dem's base. It's as simple as that.
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Not really sure Clinton succeeded in reaching out the dem's base all that well either, seeing as she didn't win. Maybe it's just the independents she failed to get through, that's possible.
 
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