“This is what tolerance looks like at UC Berkeley”

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...said Mike Wright, a Berkeley College Republican member said as smoke bombs went off around him. Someone threw red paint on him. “It’s sad.”
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Sad doesn't even come close.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Protesters-storm-Milo-Yiannopoulos-event-at-UC-10901829.php

Yiannopoulos was invited to speak at the campus by the Berkeley College Republicans, a student group that was warned Tuesday by university officials that the event could result in the targeting of undocumented students.
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Yet look who started all of the violence. Look who is being targeted. This is bad even for Berkeley.

Yiannopoulos, an editor for the right-wing Breitbart News website, was expected to use the event in Berkeley to kick off a campaign against “sanctuary campuses” that have vowed to protect undocumented students as President Trump cracks down on illegal immigration.
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I don't read Breitbart and I don't know who Milo is (I do now) and it is irrelevant.

More intolerance (to say the least) from the left. I'd say it was only a few individuals who ruined it, but it was not.

Dozens of masked students started fires, stormed barricades, threw bricks, fireworks and "smoking objects" at police, knocked over and vandalized a generator and light that were set up, smashed windows....I forget the rest.

I wonder if they were actually students at all.

I guess Berkeley, along with government officials all over the state, don't care that 74% of Californians are against sanctuary cities.

According to Berkeley's own newspaper....

http://news.berkeley.edu/2015/09/04/igs-poll-californians-oppose-sanctuary-city-flexibility/

Unfortunately only a sample size of over a thousand people, but...
Opposition to the sanctuary city policies crossed the political spectrum, and included 73 percent of Democrats, 82 percent of Republicans and 71 percent of independents.

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Within every ethnic group, majorities said local officials should defer to the federal requests. That view was expressed by 65 percent of Latino respondents, 75 percent of Asian Americans and African Americans and 80 percent of whites.
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I know 3 or 4 very liberal friends and none of them are for sanctuary cities. I've never heard anybody say otherwise actually.

Why would anyone want that? To give free reign of the entire state to illegals (there are millions here already in Cali...millions.), AND to have the taxpayers pay for their legal defense? Get stuffed!

I already expect some "Cali is stupid you should sink into the sea" posts - save it, you're preaching to the choir.

This state is completely out of control.

Any Californians here think making Cali a sanctuary state is a good idea? If so, please tell me why, especially if you actually pay taxes in this state.

Why am I asking - this state voted in Jerry Brown - AGAIN! Holy gawddam...
 
Great publicity for Milo as his new book "Dangerous" is set to be released soon. I wanted to go to this event, but was disappointed when I tried to buy tickets in late November and it was already sold out. In light of recent events, I just knew there was going to be a riot.

This just drives home the point, if it hasn't been obvious enough already: the real greatest threat to the US is the hysterical intolerance and dogmatism of the progressive left.
 
Dumb All Over said:
The Berkeley Black Hood Mob is smashing windows, starting fires and destroying property.
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Don't those idiots show up to pretty much every protest around there to trash things?

Any, that Milo clown's just some troll who managed to get banned from Twitter for leading too many hate mobs. There's no point in bringing him onto campus except for attracting protests and mayhem, so I have no sympathy for the campus republican group.
 
Mumbles said:
Don't those idiots show up to pretty much every protest around there to trash things?

Any, that Milo clown's just some troll who managed to get banned from Twitter for leading too many hate mobs. There's no point in bringing him onto campus except for attracting protests and mayhem, so I have no sympathy for the campus republican group.
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Milo has appeared at many campuses without the left starting riots.
 
Maybe I'm missing something but this seems like a great victory for the alt-right. Paints their opponents in the worst light, generates great clickbait, probably boosts book sales, gives them a nice victim narrative. I'm just going to take a page from the CT fringe of the alt-right and call this one a false flag. Trump probably had the CIA do this. MKULTRA on college campuses and what-not. Any absence of evidence is simply proof of a skilled cover-up.
 
Who gives a rip? We're supposed to be angels of virtue while the minority alt-right takes over the government and drags it toward the drain or WWIII, it's unclear which at this point.

And you start a thread whining about some protestors who have had enough! Color me unconcerned.
 
Dumb All Over said:
Milo has appeared at many campuses without the left starting riots.
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..."the left" didn't start a riot.

Some people started a riot.

And here's the thing. This won't be the last.

Get used to this America. As long as the Trump administration holds unlimited power and it treats the constitution as a doormat there will be people that will protest.

This is going to get ugly. Real ugly. I'm not going to condone the violence that will happen. I'm not going to defend what happened at Berkeley.

But we are in the middle of a propaganda war. And the Trump Administration will be doing exactly the same as what has already started to happen in this thread: they will use this as an example of how the "left hates free speech." And they will say this while they quietly and quickly work behind the scenes to dismantle the "checks and balances" that were once a hallmark of what was the United States of America.

It won't take a lot for the Trump Administration to escalate in response. And they will escalate. No amount of "milo could not have asked for better publicity" is going to mitigate that. We could all appeal for calm but there is so much fear and anxiety out there that if things didn't explode here, they would explode somewhere else. This isn't something anyone can control. Not until a proper form of leadership forms itself out of the disparate groups that are opposing the Trump regime.

The very least that we can do here is not to become mouthpieces for the Administration. Milo is a disgusting, repulsive human being, and we should not be helping him by being sucked into his talking points. Milo is a professional troll and getting people irrationally angry is what he does. He succeeded here. We don't need to signal boost his success.
 
Unlike the Punch Richard Spencer event, this one gets no traction for the black block. They've been breaking windows and setting rubbish bin fires for two decades, now.... longer if you count the shock troops of the old Anti-War demonstration, with much the same "Ho Hum" reaction.

There may be a couple of people who get excited because it's the poster boy for misogyny (and runner up to Julian Assange in the Best Dye Job elimination round). His followers need no convincing, though and I doubt he's picking up any new ones. It'll get the Misogynist Wing of the GOP back in the news for a few days; they've been feeling like wallflowers while all the Nazis got all the press over the last few weeks.

It's a lose/lose situation. More accurately a news/news situation. Milo will get another gig sponsored by the Young Americans for Freedom at another university, and the black bloc will go on to do what they do.
 
banquetbear said:
This isn't something anyone can control. Not until a proper form of leadership forms itself out of the disparate groups that are opposing the Trump regime.
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Not going to happen. What is going to take control is an increasingly authoritarian Trump government which will gain more and more support from the middle who will soon be demanding an end to senseless violence and disorder. These idiots make it much, much easier for Republican senators and congress members (as well as Democrats in republican heavy areas and states) to support whatever the Trump administration does.
 
Their intolerance is perfectly justified, because as everyone knows, Trump is Hitler and Bannon is a Nazi -- at least according to the myriad comments made at this forum.
 
Hmmmm... Tempest in a Tea Pot. Once again, posters decrying special snowflakes all the while demanding that they be given special snowflake status.
 
banquetbear said:
..."the left" didn't start a riot.

Some people started a riot.

And here's the thing. This won't be the last.

Get used to this America. As long as the Trump administration holds unlimited power and it treats the constitution as a doormat there will be people that will protest.

This is going to get ugly. Real ugly. I'm not going to condone the violence that will happen. I'm not going to defend what happened at Berkeley.
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The rioters have nothing to do with Trump, Milo, or really anyone else. The Black Bloc idiots have been doing this at every protest I can remember in the Berkley area (they're pretty active in Oakland too) going back long before either one of those two clown were of any real importance. And this is really all that Milo's good for, either - and he makes his money by provoking this sort of thing. If you aren't directly affected by the nonsense these two groups kick up, and you're outraged by it, you're being played for a sucker.
 
Wayward son said:
Not going to happen. What is going to take control is an increasingly authoritarian Trump government which will gain more and more support from the middle who will soon be demanding an end to senseless violence and disorder. These idiots make it much, much easier for Republican senators and congress members (as well as Democrats in republican heavy areas and states) to support whatever the Trump administration does.
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...you haven't actually disagreed with anything I've said.

This relatively minor incident (in the grand scheme of things) is a propaganda boom for the Trump administration. And there are going to be more and more of them.

There is nothing we will be able to do to control (as you call them) "these idiots." They are going to do what they are going to do. The Trump regime are very very quickly dismantling the frameworks that once made "America Great." And the more they do this: the more helpless people will feel. Look at what they have done in a few days. Look at what they apparently have planned to come.

https://www.thenation.com/article/l...ls-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/

Look at what they are doing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO

The decision to not use the word "Jews" in the Presidents statement on Holocaust Remembrance Day was important. Pence's choice to mention only Abe Lincoln in his statement at the start of Black History Month is important. They are making very clear signals to their nationalist allies exactly where they stand.

As people become more and more marginalised they will loose hope: and eventually they will break.

This isn't coming. It is already here. Yes: it is going to make it much easier for Republican senators and congress members (as well as Democrats in republican heavy areas and states) to support whatever the Trump administration does.

The question everyone needs to ask themselves is are you going to make it easier for the Trump Regime or harder for them? It is easy to point and laugh at the protestors, lament that they are making it harder for everyone, call them SJW's and snowflakes. You can signal boost this on behalf of the Trump regime if you wish.

Or you can call it as it is. A professional troll has taken his antics from the internet and is applying them in real life, and he got the angry reaction he was looking for.

The time will come in real life where you are going to have to pick a side. I'm going to throw my bit in with the opposition. I've made my choice. I do not advocate rioting. I do not advocate nor support destruction of property or hurting anybody. But I'm not going to be a pawn of the Trump Regime. And you guys shouldn't be pawns either.
 
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