US Officially Blames Russia

Here's a polite summary of some reactions to the "evidence" presented in that "report". Conclusion (implicit): It's written to fool gullible, clueless people.

Dan Goodin said:
[...] The sloppiness, Lee noted, included the report's conflation of Russian hacking groups APT28 and APT29—also known as CozyBear, Sandworm, Sednit, and Sofacy, among others—with malware names such as BlackEnergy and Havex, and even hacking capabilities such as "Powershell Backdoor." The mix up of such basic classifications does little to inspire confidence that the report was carefully or methodically prepared. And that only sows more reasons for President elect Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on the intelligence community's analysis on a matter that, if true, poses a major national security threat. [...]
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McAfee, as usual, is less polite.

ZeroHedge said:
In case some of you were duped into believing [the "report"] was evidence that proved Russia hacked the US elections, John McAfee would like to remind you that you're probably a high tier retard and would believe virtually anything your government told you.
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NoahFence said:
And Americans have gotten progressively more stupid.

Hmm... I wonder if there's a correlation between the rise of stupidity and conservative success?
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Pure fantasy again, your side clearly has the dirt poor vote, the Kardashian vote and a host of cobbled together moron groups. Look what it has gotten you, DEFEAT!!! Lol
 
Childlike Empress said:
Here's a polite summary of some reactions to the "evidence" presented in that "report". Conclusion (implicit): It's written to fool gullible, clueless people.
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Goodin seems to be confused. This is not the report that's supposed to provide the evidence; that will be a classified report to Congress sometime before January 20. This was just a summary of information that was largely already public. The CrowdStrike private analysis of the DNC hacking had more in the way of evidence.

Like most Russian propaganda, your silly cartoon doesn't make much sense. Obama's sanctions have had a crippling effect on the oil revenue Russia badly needs to maintain government operations, and his latest actions have turned over Putin's rock and put both Trump and Putin in a box: His actions cannot be undone without raising even more questions about why Trump and Putin are so fond of each other. Their comments so far simply play into a suspicious narrative, so neither of them is as clever as you seem to think. Given that this is a topic that seems to be of interest even to GOP Congressmen, it just might be the thread that undoes the Trump presidency. If Trump takes any action after the 20th to undo the sanctions and then it's revealed that he has a financial motivation for doing so -- which is almost certainly the case -- we may well see a Republican introduce articles of impeachment out of fear of a voter backlash in 2018 and 2020.
 
Childlike Empress said:
It "seems" that way because you didn't read the article to the end, or assume others haven't. No surprise given the line of other uninformed/propagandized drivel you managed to include in your post.
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You're really great at pretending to have an argument, somewhere, but such never quite materializes out of the fog.
 
WilliamSeger said:
You're really great at pretending to have an argument, somewhere, but such never quite materializes out of the fog.
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I write for people who actively use their braincells and check things.

WilliamSeger said:
Goodin seems to be confused. This is not the report that's supposed to provide the evidence; that will be a classified report to Congress sometime before January 20. This was just a summary of information that was largely already public.
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Dan Goodin said:
[...] In fairness, the reticence in both cases is likely justified by the interest in protecting sources and methods used to detect such attacks. And as Lee was quick to note, strong technical evidence is likely to be included in reports to Congress that later may be declassified. Still, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Thursday's Joint Analysis Report provides almost no new evidence to support the Obama Administration's claims Russia attempted to interfere with the US electoral process. Absent something more, the increasingly bitter debate may rage on indefinitely.
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Childlike Empress said:
I write for people who actively use their braincells and check things.

Dan Goodin said:
[...] In fairness, the reticence in both cases is likely justified by the interest in protecting sources and methods used to detect such attacks. And as Lee was quick to note, strong technical evidence is likely to be included in reports to Congress that later may be declassified. Still, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Thursday's Joint Analysis Report provides almost no new evidence to support the Obama Administration's claims Russia attempted to interfere with the US electoral process. Absent something more, the increasingly bitter debate may rage on indefinitely.
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LOL, still, it's hard to escape the conclusion that Goodin misunderstood the purpose of the report, since there was never any promise that it would release any new evidence in advance of the classified report. Thanks for proving my point.
 
logger said:
Pure fantasy again, your side clearly has the dirt poor vote, the Kardashian vote and a host of cobbled together moron groups. Look what it has gotten you, DEFEAT!!! Lol
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A bunch of 'moron groups' that have resulted in only 1 loss of the popular vote for the Presidency since 1992. Unfortunately, that is now how the count tallies, but it is amusing that majority of the voting public is 'cobbled together moron groups'.
 
kookbreaker said:
A bunch of 'moron groups' that have resulted in only 1 loss of the popular vote for the Presidency since 1992. Unfortunately, that is now how the count tallies, but it is amusing that majority of the voting public is 'cobbled together moron groups'.
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If Clinton lost the three largest boroughs of New York, she would have lost the popular vote. A bit of perspective for you?
 
Trump plans to meet with intelligence officials in coming days to learn more about the allegations. He said he wants U.S. officials “to be sure because it’s a pretty serious charge.” He pointed to intelligence failures over the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before the U.S. invasion, and declared himself an expert in the area.

“I know a lot about hacking,” he said, “and hacking is a very hard thing to prove, so it could be somebody else.”

He added, cryptically, that he also knows “things that other people don’t know. And so they cannot be sure of the situation.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5af138-cfd5-11e6-85cd-e66532e35a44_story.html

This denialism is pretty comical if you ask me. It's straight out of the Russian propaganda proofster playbook: bitch and moan about proof yet even when offered proof don't acknowledge it or intentionally avoid it.

There's a big difference between being skeptical and being a Russian propaganda outlet proofster.
 
WilliamSeger said:
So you think it was fair that Trump outright lied about the emails, trying to trump up a "lock her up" case where there was none? Do you think those lies cost her any votes?
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Yes, I do think that is fair.

It did cost her votes. But since there wasn't actually anything bad in there, those were the votes of idiots. If you depend on the idiot vote to win, you don't deserve to be in office.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Exactly my point; we finally agree on something. Unfortunately, impeachment is the only recourse now.
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I wouldn't personally support impeachment for non crimes.

I survived the horrible adminstrations of Reagan, bush, Clinton,bush, Obama. I think we will make it.
 
The Washington Pest gets more ridiculous every day. That's what they want their readers to know (as cited by the fearful Swede):

Jeff Bezos' blog said:
He added, cryptically, that he also knows “things that other people don’t know. And so they cannot be sure of the situation.”
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Period. That's what readers of RT get to know:

Propaganda Bullhorn said:
“I think it’s unfair if we don’t know. It could be somebody else,” Reuters cited Trump as telling media at his Mar-a-Lago estate as he referred to the pinning of the blame for the alleged hacks on Russia.

“I also know things that other people don’t know, so we cannot be sure,” Trump added. “You will find out on Tuesday or Wednesday.”
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Easy to locate the Reuters item:

Reuters said:
"I think it's unfair if we don't know. It could be somebody else. I also know things that other people don't know so we cannot be sure," Trump said.

Asked what that information included, the Republican President-elect said, "You will find out on Tuesday or Wednesday."

He did not elaborate.
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Tee-hee. The miserable propagandists at the WP have their knickers in a bunch.
 
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