Merged Jeffrey MacDonald did it. He really did.

[Henri McPhee]

SCOTT: The following is the best synopsis ever written about Henriboy's favorite red herring. The author of this synopsis is Brian Murtagh and it was part of the government's 1984 appellate brief.

"What distinguishes Stoeckley's confession from the others is not only the factual details of the crime which she managed to weave into her narrative (not unlike the malingerer who learns the symptoms of obscure diseases), but also her complex motivations. These motivations include grandiose delusions of her medical and scholastic ability, a propensity for histrionics, a vicarious interest in police matters, and a bizarre conception of herself as a benevolent witch."

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

That's a lot of hogwash from Murtagh who was a trickster lawyer and who knew how to use cunning and trickery in a bad court, and a biased trial judge like Judge Dupree, and how to illegally withhold exculpatory evidence, and how to mislead MacDonald defense lawyers.

This is part of what Detective Beasley said about Helena Stoeckley at the 1979 MacDonald trial:

Q: Had you found her to be a reliable person?

A: The most reliable informant I ever had.

 

[Border Reiver]

That's a lot of hogwash from Murtagh who was a trickster lawyer and who knew how to use cunning and trickery in a bad court, and a biased trial judge like Judge Dupree, and how to illegally withhold exculpatory evidence, and how to mislead MacDonald defense lawyers.

This is part of what Detective Beasley said about Helena Stoeckley at the 1979 MacDonald trial:

Q: Had you found her to be a reliable person?

A: The most reliable informant I ever had.

So reliable that she changes her story more often then she changes her outfit.

 

[byn63]

LOL Prince Beasley - the detective who had to be medically retired because he had an inorganic brain disease. the lesions on his brain made him confabulate. Although it is lying it is not intentional, the brain fills in the missing information that makes sense to the person who is affected.....still, what Prince Beasley said by the time of the trial was USELESS.

 

[Henri McPhee]

LOL Prince Beasley - the detective who had to be medically retired because he had an inorganic brain disease. the lesions on his brain made him confabulate. Although it is lying it is not intentional, the brain fills in the missing information that makes sense to the person who is affected.....still, what Prince Beasley said by the time of the trial was USELESS.

That's ridiculous. Everybody's health fails eventually, but Detective Beasley had his wits about him at the time of the MacDonald murders. He understood what was going on and he was a front line police officer.

This is what Detective Beasley said about Helena Stoeckley and it's true:

In addition to the above, Helena told me that Mazorelle was out
that night and involved in the MacDonald murders.

In regard to cases that Helena made for me, I recall that she
was responsible for the largest drug recovery in the history
of our police department up to the time I retired. Several months
before the MacDonald murders, she tipped us on drugs that were
being transported from Canada to Fayetteville. Seven suspects
were arrested, and over $20,000.00 worth of drugs were recovered.

Helena was also responsible for the arrest of four suspects
from Texas, who were also transporting and selling drugs in
Fayetteville. We recovered about $40,000.00 worth of drugs
on this case.

Helena told me about every instance where drugs came into Fayetteville
from other areas. At the time I didn't think about it, but I now
believe she told us about drugs coming from outside Fayetteville
to eliminate competition, probably protecting the local drug scene,
i.e. The Viet Nam operation. This is my opinion.

Judge DuPree and the U.S, Government have attempted to discredit me,
insinuating I am having, and have had mental problems* I would like
to point out that I have been on the Police Officers Advisory
Commission for North Carolina since before I returned from the
Fayetteville Police Department in 1973.

I have read this 8 page statement, and it is true and correct, to
the best of my knowledge.


Prince E, Beasley


Witness: Ted L. Gunderson

 

[desmirelle]

One: you do not give a date for Beasley's 'deposition', and since it was witnessed by Gunderson, that tells me Beasley's brain disease was well underway.

Two: you have drugs being smuggled INTO Fayetteville/Ft Bragg and not OUT via the "Vietnam/Bragg pipeline

Do you LOOK for ways to badly present your case?

 

[JTF]

Ignoring The Documented Record

In 1974, Prince Beasley was forced to "retire" from the force after wandering into traffic and behaving in a bizarre fashion. As BYN pointed out, he was subsequently diagnosed with an inorganic brain disorder. Henriboy has been reminded of this issue at least 20 times in the past 10 years, but continues to ignore the documented record. He also knows that Beasley's recollections were first put forth to Gunderson in 1980, six years AFTER he "retired" from law enforcement.

I cringe everytime I read the transcripts of Murtagh cross-examining Beasley at the 1984 oral arguments session. Beasley was clearly conflating events in this case, but he was fortunate that Murtagh took pity on him. Henriboy also conveniently leaves out the fact that by the late 80's, Beasley no longer believed that Stoeckley was involved in these murders. in 1991, Pat Reese wrote a two-part article about Beasley's change of heart.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[desmirelle]

In 1974, Prince Beasley was forced to "retire" from the force after wandering into traffic and behaving in a bizarre fashion. As BYN pointed out, he was subsequently diagnosed with an inorganic brain disorder. Henriboy has been reminded of this issue at least 20 times in the past 10 years, but continues to ignore the documented record. He also knows that Beasley's recollections were first put forth to Gunderson in 1980, six years AFTER he "retired" from law enforcement.

I cringe everytime I read the transcripts of Murtagh cross-examining Beasley at the 1984 oral arguments session. Beasley was clearly conflating events in this case, but he was fortunate that Murtagh took pity on him. Henriboy also conveniently leaves out the fact that by the late 80's, Beasley no longer believed that Stoeckley was involved in these murders. in 1991, Pat Reese wrote a two-part article about Beasley's change of heart.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

Facts, reality, and logic. And the question is: What are three things that have never been used by Henri in forming an opinion?

 

[Henri McPhee]

Henriboy also conveniently leaves out the fact that by the late 80's, Beasley no longer believed that Stoeckley was involved in these murders. in 1991, Pat Reese wrote a two-part article about Beasley's change of heart.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

By 1991 Detective Beasley was suffering from senile dementia among several other serious medical conditions. it was quite easy for that former drug addict journalist Pat Reese to discredit him. Beasley was a bit past caring about Helena Stoeckley by that time. Beasley's daughter thinks that her father was quite close to the atom bomb in Japan in the second world war.

It's true that Detective Beasley had health problems which forced him to retire. He seems to have had a drink problem which is not all that unusual. When he was employed by MacDonald lawyers he once dressed up as a witch when he went to interview a Stoeckley cult member. That ended that business relationship and he seems to have broken off with Fred Bost when the two of them were supposed to originally write the Fatal Justice book.

The point is that Detective Beasley won two awards for being the best police officer in North Carolina. He was no fool. The 4th Circuit judges showed a lack of practical knowledge of routine police work when they disregarded Detective Beasley, and Helena Stoeckley, at the 1985 MacDonald appeal. Beasley had to let the suspects go after the murders because the bungling detectives at the Army CID showed no interest in them, and their documentation later vanished from the police station.

This is some of the silly remarks from the 4th Circuit judges in 1985. They were not extremely competent judges. What would they have done in Beasley's boots?

f it is within the province of this court to pass on the trustworthiness of a witness who proposes to testify ... this court would be constrained to hold Officer Beasley's testimony to be unreliable. It is simply incredible that any self-respecting, competent police officer who really thought that he had a substantial lead toward solving these sensational murders would allow the suspects to go after waiting only an hour for the Army investigators....

 

[Henri McPhee]

Even the biased judges at the 4th Circuit in 1985 were willing to admit that Helena Stoeckely was not the poor befuddled creature craving for attention described by Judge Dupree and Murtagh:

[24] The issue of Stoeckley's credibility was first raised by MacDonald in his motion for new trial when he introduced the affidavit of a psychologist, Dr. Rex Julian Beaber, to show that Stoeckley was a reliable affiant. See Motion for New Trial, Declaration of Rex Julian Beaber, Ph.D.; Addendum II to Reply to Government's Opposition to Motion for New Trial, Declaration of Rex Julian Beaber, Ph.D. Dr. Beaber is of the opinion that Stoeckley "was capable of ordinary perception, recollection and cognition and that-[she] understood the difference between truth and falsity." Addendum II to Reply to Government's Opposition to Motion for New Trial, Affidavit of Rex Julian Beaber, Ph.D. at 2. The opinion of Dr. Beaber, derived from his four-to-six hour examination of Stoeckley on December 7, 1980 is entitled to some weight but the court also recognizes that the government is precluded by Stoeckley's death from having her examined by a psychologist of its choosing.

 

[byn63]

yes by 1991 PEB was beyond ill with his brain disorder. the problem henri is that you don't seem to realize this is NOT a disease that happens over night. PEB was seriously mentally unstable BEFORE inmate went to trial so he WAS NOT a credible witness. Add to the fact that most of the statements he made "pointing the finger at Helena" were made to Gunderson who has been proven to be a lunatic, idiotic, satanic cult seeker who was denied status in courts. calling him to the stand (or to be part of the appeals process) was counterproductive. Why? because it didnt take much to show that he was NOT honest. Prime example of his lack of integrity, the tapes he made of Helena's interviews that he purposely manipulated to try and create a confession that would match the story of inmate or the evidence. the transcripts and the tapes didn't match AND a witness to the interviews reported that Gunderson would turn off the recorder when Helena said anything he didn't want in the confession, and Gunderson's secretary admitting that he'd mark portions and tell her not to transcribe it.....the Courts were not impressed

 

[desmirelle]

It's true that Detective Beasley had health problems which forced him to retire. When he was employed by MacDonald lawyers he once dressed up as a witch when he went to interview a Stoeckley cult member.

Uh, witches dress like everyone else. Normal, everyday street clothes are what they put on in the mornings to go out.

 

[byn63]

Uh, witches dress like everyone else. Normal, everyday street clothes are what they put on in the mornings to go out.

perhaps henri believes that witches dress like Glinda the Good Witch of the North?

 

[desmirelle]

perhaps henri believes that witches dress like Glinda the Good Witch of the North?

Believable hypothesis, given other of his statements.

 

[JTF]

Skip And Dodge

Henriboy can skip and dodge around this issue until the cows come home, but the documented record provides a clear narrative on Beasley's medical issues and the effect it had on his ability to process information.

In 1974, Prince Beasley was forced to "retire" from the force after wandering into traffic and behaving in a bizarre fashion. As BYN pointed out, he was subsequently diagnosed with an inorganic brain disorder. Henriboy has been reminded of this issue at least 20 times in the past 10 years, but continues to ignore the documented record. He also knows that Beasley's recollections were first put forth to Gunderson in 1980, six years AFTER he "retired" from law enforcement.

I cringe everytime I read the transcripts of Murtagh cross-examining Beasley at the 1984 oral arguments session. Beasley was clearly conflating events in this case, but he was fortunate that Murtagh took pity on him. Henriboy also conveniently leaves out the fact that by the late 80's, Beasley no longer believed that Stoeckley was involved in these murders. in 1991, Pat Reese wrote a two-part article about Beasley's change of heart and Beasley wrote Freddy Kassab a letter offering his support for eliminating Stoeckley as a suspect in this case.

http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com

 

[desmirelle]

What I want to know is why Henri believes Helena when she says she did it, but prattles about her being a liar when she says she doesn't remember where she was that night (her first story) or that she and mac were lovers (since he stuck it to any female willing, why not) and that she watched him murder his family?

 

[Henri McPhee]

Detective Beasley's daughter has written in the past that her father knew exactly what happened with regard to the MacDonald murders, and who the real killers were, but he wasn't believed by the bungling detectives in the Army CID and FBI. It used to be a common saying among police court advocates in the UK that what one policeman says is probably true, what two policemen say may be true, but what three policemen say is never true.

Many years ago a lawyer in the UK was shocked to hear a solicitor of wide experience say, not as a matter of comment but as a casual mention of a fact universally recognized, that the main fault of the police was perjury.

Stombaugh of the FBI saying he only said it could be and the same with the threads isn't evidence. The MacDonald case was a gross miscarriage of justice. You decide according to the evidence without fear or favor.

 

[desmirelle]

You decide according to the evidence without fear or favor.

I have. He's guilty of murdering his two daughters, unborn son, and first wife with his own hands and MY OPINION is that he should have been guilty of three counts of first degree murder, not one of first and two of second.

Notice I know what is my opinion and that it is not a fact nor does my opinion negate facts.

 

[byn63]

It is a FACT that inmate was CONVICTED BASED ON THE EVIDENCE. My opinion is he should have gotten convicted of murdering his unborn son as well as his wife and two daughters. It is FACT that whatever PEB's daughter may say is IRRELEVANT. Even PEB did not know what was truth and what he made up (conflated) by the time of the trial and the appellate process. I try very hard to remember to have sympathy for PEB - I HATE liars and PEB was a liar, but since he could not help it (the brain disease caused him to confabulate - which is to insert details to his stories that make sense to HIMSELF) I cannot bring myself to hate him. henri has been told this many times but he just ignores any fact that he doesn't like......

 

[BStrong]

What I want to know is why Henri believes Helena when she says she did it, but prattles about her being a liar when she says she doesn't remember where she was that night (her first story) or that she and mac were lovers (since he stuck it to any female willing, why not) and that she watched him murder his family?

Confirmation bias.

 

[Henri McPhee]

It is a FACT that inmate was CONVICTED BASED ON THE EVIDENCE. My opinion is he should have gotten convicted of murdering his unborn son as well as his wife and two daughters. It is FACT that whatever PEB's daughter may say is IRRELEVANT. Even PEB did not know what was truth and what he made up (conflated) by the time of the trial and the appellate process. I try very hard to remember to have sympathy for PEB - I HATE liars and PEB was a liar, but since he could not help it (the brain disease caused him to confabulate - which is to insert details to his stories that make sense to HIMSELF) I cannot bring myself to hate him. henri has been told this many times but he just ignores any fact that he doesn't like......

I disagree. What one policeman says is probably true. Detective Beasley was very proud of his two awards for being the best police officer in North Carolina.

This is part of Detective Beasley's trial testimony in 1979 before his inorganic brain disorders which Byn keeps harping on about:

I was driving an unmarked car and I was dressed in dungarees and leather jacket. I walked up behind the car and I called her to me, and as I called her she came towards me and the other subjects in the car also came toward me.
She turned around and told them it would be all right to sit down. So I took her to my car and asked her had she heard about this incident at Fort Bragg. She said she had, and I said, "Well, Helena, according to the information we've got, you and these people you are with fit the description that was given out." I said, "Now, I am going to ask you straight out, I know you and you know me. I want to ask you to tell me the truth."
She backed off and hung her head. She says, "In my mind, it seems that I saw this thing happen"; but she says, "I was heavy on mescaline." And she would not commit herself any further.
Q All right; what happened next?
A I got names of the other people that was in the car with her. I called CID at Fort Bragg and told them that I had some suspects in custody that fit the description -- would the police come down?
I believe that was about 2:30 and at 4:30, or almost daylight, nobody had ever come or either returned my call. I released these people and let them go.
Q Did you ever see any of them again, other than Helena Stoeckley?
A Never.
Q Did you ever see Helena Stoeckley again?
A Yes; I did.
Q When did you next see her?
A I can't recall the time, but it wasn't long after that. Later, I went up to her apartment, tried to locate her again, and I believe the last time I saw her there was a bunch of wreaths out in the front yard, and I believe there was also one hanging on the front door.
Q Did you ever talk with Helena about that?
A Yes; I did.
Q What did she say?
A She said that she was in mourning.
Q In mourning?
A Yes, sir.
Q What was she in mourning about?
A In reference to the MacDonald murders.
Q Did she tell you she was in mourning about the MacDonald murders?
A Yes; she did, and she was wearing black, and I might add that she would not -- I was really wanting some information really -- and she would not even talk to me about it.
Q When did you next talk to Helena?
A I can't remember, Mr. Smith. I don't know.
Q Did you ever talk with her out in Nashville?
A Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a year later -- about a year later.
Q Why did you go out to Nashville to see her?
A An agent -- I believe his name was Mr. Mahon -- from Washington, D.C., came around the police station and contacted me; asked me about the situation and, of course, I told him what I know and he asked me would I assist him in locating her and I said, "Sure, be glad to."
Q When you were out in Nashville talking to Helena, did you talk with her any about the MacDonald murders?
A Yes; I did.
Q Do you remember anything she told you out there?
A Basically the same thing she told me in Fayetteville.
Q Now, I take it that during the time you knew Helena in 1969-1970, you knew that she was a drug user?
A Yes, I did.
Q Nevertheless, did you find you could rely upon Helena to tell you the truth?
A Yes, sir.
Q When Helena told you she was going to be somewhere, would she be there?
A She would always be there. She was never late. She was always on time. If anything, she was early.
Q When Helena told you that you could find drugs at a location, did you find the drugs there?
A I found the drugs there.
Q Mr. Beasley, was that always the case?
A Always.
Q Did you feel that Helena was under the influence of drugs at times when she gave you information?
A At times I had suspicions. I didn't know for sure, but I did have suspicions that she might be.
Q Even under those circumstances when you had the feeling she was under the influence of drugs, did you find you could rely upon her --
A (Interposing) Yes, sir.
Q -- to tell you the truth?
A Yes, sir.