Are all Trump supporters racists?

sunmaster14 said:
Whoever said it was disqualifying? What disqualifies Hillary is that she didn't win 270 electoral votes. There were many factors going into that, although I suspect the main one was that most people wanted a change.
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My goodness.

Ignorant of basic facts? Didn't see that coming. :rolleyes:
 
Distracted1 said:
Most people?
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I think so. Many of them didn't want the kind of change that Trump represented, and still voted for Hillary or didn't vote at all, but I think most people are kind of sick of the status quo. This was a change election. The only reason the Democrats still had a decent chance of winning was that the Republicans ended up with the wackiest nominee in modern history.
 
sunmaster14 said:
I think so. Many of them didn't want the kind of change that Trump represented, and still voted for Hillary or didn't vote at all, but I think most people are kind of sick of the status quo. This was a change election. The only reason the Democrats still had a decent chance of winning was that the Republicans ended up with the wackiest nominee in modern history.
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The only people we can objectively say had an opinion one way or the other were the ones who actually voted, and fewer of them voted for Dirty Don than for Crooked Hillary.

As for the use of "wackiest" when describing Trump...Okay, why not. I guess Mussolini was "a hoot"?
 
Distracted1 said:
The only people we can objectively say had an opinion one way or the other were the ones who actually voted, and fewer of them voted for Dirty Don than for Crooked Hillary.

As for the use of "wackiest" when describing Trump...Okay, why not. I guess Mussolini was "a hoot"?
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It's a bit early to compare Trump favorably with Mussolini, don't you think? Even the Nobel Prize committee waited 9 months into Obama's Presidency before giving him the Peace Prize.
 
phiwum said:
That doesn't surprise me at all. You are highly partisan and so it's not surprising that you don't care about scandals coming from your team.
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I would if it was a real scandal. Using a private server that may have been less secure and may have led to inadvertently disclosing secrets is not a big deal to me.

Actually purposefully selling secrets? That I would care about.
 
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Aridas said:
Root of racism and bigotry? Hardly. In the past, they were the party that was far more strongly associated with racism and bigotry, yes, though. These days, they are not, however. The Republican Party, on the other hand, has been trending a path in somewhat the opposite direction, though, since they decided to increasingly court Christian supremacy groups and anti-science groups.
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In truth, the GOP basically walked away from a serious commitment to equality in 1877, which led to the collapse of Reconstruction and a move to Jim Crow and terrorism. By around 1900, the lily-white movement had become a force in the GOP, which is exactly what the name says. This is part of why Black Americans were ready to support FDR when he put together the New Deal, despite the fact that even that was largely (but not entirely) crafted to keep them out as well. But the notion that either party is historically "the" party of racism is laughable.
 
Travis said:
It would be fair to say that I sure didn't care about it at all.



Which has what to do with NAFTA? Those jobs moved because people in other country can do the same job for far less. NAFTA did not create that situation simple supply and demand did.



Again, NAFTA had nothing to do with this. Free trade existed before NAFTA and will exist after. If Mexico had been an industrialized nation in the 50's you can bet that GM and Ford would have relocated there sooner.



Of course this overlooks that Liberals have proposed and tried to implement other solutions. Like retraining programs and making universities more affordable. Things that the Republicans have opposed at every turn.



Except that they are not being oppressed. They are in a very unfortunate situation. One with few answers. The government cannot directly create jobs there and until the population gains new skills they will continue to not be very employable in a global economy.



Well alrighty. I'll say that it isn't racist. Detroit was an economic time bomb. Too large a city built around one industry with too many workers that were all under skilled for other jobs. It was bound to be a disaster from its inception.
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Travis, I knew you would mention the Republican connection with NAFTA. I will just point out the all important final negotiations were completed by Democrats during the Bill Clinton Administration. As an example of the differences that were applied, simply look to the latest scam attempt called TPP. Democrats are all for it, yet Republicans are not. There's a reason for this.

Now, to look upon NAFTA favorably is foolish for the US citizen. Of course free trade is a good thing, however trade imbalance is not. Manipulating your Country's currency value is not. This is exactly why factories across the US, about 70,000 of them, have shut down and relocated outside the USA. NAFTA is the "Globalist" answer to redistribution of wealth. The idea is to take jobs and industry from one Country and give them to another that has been less fortunate. 70,000 factories. That's a lot of Americans out of work. So this has not been the best thing for the US. Let's combat poverty sure, but not at the cost of creating it here within the US as a result. NAFTA has been disastrous for the US and nothing short of a miracle for Mexico and China. However, enough is enough. NAFTA must go or be renegotiated completely. That's the only answer that will work.

Democrats were and are responsible for the final draft and approval of NAFTA.
If you're in the US, you have witnessed the results, unless you have been shielded in one of the West Coast states. Our industrial middle "rust belt" has been all but destroyed. To deny this is beyond ignorance. To deny that Democrats tend to group minorities within large cities likewise. To deny Democrats have purposely left an entire group of people out of the American dream is outrageous. I only hope these same people find relief during the Trump admin.


Chris B.
 
Mumbles said:
In truth, the GOP basically walked away from a serious commitment to equality in 1877, which led to the collapse of Reconstruction and a move to Jim Crow and terrorism. By around 1900, the lily-white movement had become a force in the GOP, which is exactly what the name says. This is part of why Black Americans were ready to support FDR when he put together the New Deal, despite the fact that even that was largely (but not entirely) crafted to keep them out as well. But the notion that either party is historically "the" party of racism is laughable.
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Laughable from a certain point of view that is. I have two words for you.
"Robert Byrd" Chris B.
 
Travis said:
I would if it was a real scandal. Using a private server that may have been less secure and may have led to inadvertently disclosing secrets is not a big deal to me.

Actually purposefully selling secrets? That I would care about.
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If it violated explicit rules, then it was a real scandal. If she was not altogether honest, it was again a real scandal. I think both of these things are true, but I'm not too well informed on the issues.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Laughable from a certain point of view that is. I have two words for you.
"Robert Byrd" Chris B.
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You're new around here? Been camping out with the boyz through the last ten years. "Oh, yeah!? Robert Byrd!" gives me Coulter Alt-History Bingo! I win with five across diagonally!

(The premise being that Republican bigotry apologists will pull out certain cards in any discussion. You've got most of them, but "Oh, yeah?! Robert Byrd!" was the middle box.)

So three words for you "Two Thousand Sixteen". What Beauregard P. Entwhistle III did back in '47 doesn't interest us. The fact that Lincoln freed the slaves has nothing to do with voter oppression in the 20teens. The Dixiecrats be dead, bro! The Klan votes GOP. The neo-nazis vote GOP. The alt-right is bragging that they won the election for the GOP. The bigots in the country, regardless of how high one pegs the number, if they vote, vote GOP.

You are welcome to agree with their programs but don't try to sell us on that Coulter Crap... that the Republicans are the REAL party of the black voter. If you do, at least gin up your game. "Nyah nyah, you're the party of the Klan and bigotry" winds up biting you in the ass.
 
phiwum said:
With due respect, the fact that Hillary violated rules by having her own email server, very likely to avoid FOIA requests, is troublesome for anyone who prefers transparency. That she seemed to prevaricate about the presence of classified information is also troublesome.

I think she would've been a decent president. I also think that her (more or less understandable) tendency for privacy was troubling, especially when it leads to apparent violations of rules. We might wonder whether transparency is appropriate for a Secretary of State, but that's another matter.

The email thing bothered me, not because a private server can't be secure or because the gov't does security better, but because it seemed intended to avoid transparency rules.
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Perhaps, but transparency doesn't seem to be a factor when it comes to Trump, who's financial and current dealings are opaque.
 
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