Are all Trump supporters racists?

[Foolmewunz]

The answer to the OP is, of course, "No." I'm still of the opinion that an educated voter who supports/ed Trump is an enabler because I think his racism, xenophobia and misogyny are pretty obvious. But that's me.

We have to accept that there are a very large number of people in the USA who if not directly of the Alt-Right white power faction are willing to give the man a pass on his participation with that element. Does that make them racists?

I think that part of what we have to come to grips with is the "just don't care" faction. In many of those locked-in largely rural Red States the minority population is such a minority that the lowest on the voters' list of priorities is going to be Race Relations/Equal Opportunity.

 

[Hercules56]

Why would you lie in the OP? Why would the moderators let you get away with slandering other members of the ISF? There are some questions we may never know the answer to.

How did I lie?

Why are you accusing people of lying? (two so far)

 

[Travis]

Far be it for me to defend Trump supporters, but I flat out don't believe this. Do you have evidence that these supposed events occurred? Like, did this happen here on the forum?

I don't have the emotional fortitude to go back and dig up the facebook comments in question.

But here is a sampling from another website I frequent.

http://wonkette.com/608547/deleted-comments-trumps-not-racist-and-youre-going-to-the-ovens

Others existed in Rawstory comments sections only briefly before going to Disqus heaven.

 

[Ian Osborne]

The answer is: We don't know.

It appears, however, that Trump supporters don't care if Trump himself appears to be racist or espouses racist (and sexist) philosophy.

Bingo. Not all Trump supporters are racist or misogynist, but racism and misogyny weren't a deal breaker for them.

 

[Belz...]

In-group preference / out-group mistrust is built into us at a genetic level.

So is reproduction, but not all of us are sex maniacs.

You are using a basic characteristic of humans as justification for an extreme application of it. It doesn't work, Tank. You are skipping an important step.

 

[Ian Osborne]

No, not all Trump supporters are racist. But for every last one of them, Trump's racism was not a deal-breaker.

I should've scrolled this far before replying to 3Point14's post.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I'm from the South so a lot of my family are Trump supporters.

There is a weird mentality I get from a lot of them. It's always in the margins, never outright solidified or stated but it's there. They voted for Trump because they are worried about the economic and social state of rural America.

It's not that they don't care about the social issues; some of them do, some of them don't, it's that they don't see that as the President's job.

At the very least the paranoid fantasy that a lot of my progressive friends are living in where half the country whipped off their clothes to reveal Klan robes is a bit much.

 

[JoeMorgue]

So is reproduction, but not all of us are sex maniacs.

You are using a basic characteristic of humans as justification for an extreme application of it. It doesn't work, Tank. You are skipping an important step.

Hunger is a natural driving force, therefore it is silly to try and stop people from being cannibals.

 

[marplots]

In-group preference / out-group mistrust is built into us at a genetic level.

Babies show a preference for looking at images of people from their own racial group...

These claims didn't sound right to me...

Here's the abstract from a 2005 paper on it:
Adults are sensitive to the physical differences that define ethnic groups. However, the age at which we become sensitive to ethnic differences is currently unclear. Our study aimed to clarify this by testing newborns and young infants for sensitivity to ethnicity using a visual preference (VP) paradigm. While newborn infants demonstrated no spontaneous preference for faces from either their own- or other-ethnic groups, 3-month-old infants demonstrated a significant preference for faces from their own-ethnic group. These results suggest that preferential selectivity based on ethnic differences is not present in the first days of life, but is learned within the first 3 months of life. The findings imply that adults' perceptions of ethnic differences are learned and derived from differences in exposure to own- versus other-race faces during early development. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/)

Sounds like it's learned.

 

[turingtest]

These claims didn't sound right to me...

Here's the abstract from a 2005 paper on it:
Adults are sensitive to the physical differences that define ethnic groups. However, the age at which we become sensitive to ethnic differences is currently unclear. Our study aimed to clarify this by testing newborns and young infants for sensitivity to ethnicity using a visual preference (VP) paradigm. While newborn infants demonstrated no spontaneous preference for faces from either their own- or other-ethnic groups, 3-month-old infants demonstrated a significant preference for faces from their own-ethnic group. These results suggest that preferential selectivity based on ethnic differences is not present in the first days of life, but is learned within the first 3 months of life. The findings imply that adults' perceptions of ethnic differences are learned and derived from differences in exposure to own- versus other-race faces during early development. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566511/)

Sounds like it's learned.

Even if it was the way ST needs it, I'm not sure I understand the virtue in an argument that says we should continue acting like babies for all our lives.

 

[NoahFence]

I'm from the South so a lot of my family are Trump supporters.

There is a weird mentality I get from a lot of them. It's always in the margins, never outright solidified or stated but it's there. They voted for Trump because they are worried about the economic and social state of rural America.

It's not that they don't care about the social issues; some of them do, some of them don't, it's that they don't see that as the President's job.

At the very least the paranoid fantasy that a lot of my progressive friends are living in where half the country whipped off their clothes to reveal Klan robes is a bit much.

Did you remind them that Trump doesn't give 2 ***** about them?

 

[sunmaster14]

How did I lie?

You claimed that every Trump supporter you have encountered on the internet is a racist and bigot. And yet you have encountered many here at ISF who are not. Frankly, I thought your OP was a breach of the MA, but the moderators apparently didn't think so.

Why are you accusing people of lying? (two so far)

When I see a lie, and it annoys me, I point it out. If I have the time, that is. I had the time yesterday.

 

[Belz...]

I'm from the South so a lot of my family are Trump supporters.

There is a weird mentality I get from a lot of them. It's always in the margins, never outright solidified or stated but it's there. They voted for Trump because they are worried about the economic and social state of rural America.

As others have noted, they apparently didn't let themselves be bothered too much by the racist and violent rhetoric.

 

[NoahFence]

You claimed that every Trump supporter you have encountered on the internet is a racist and bigot. And yet you have encountered many here at ISF who are not. Frankly, I thought your OP was a breach of the MA, but the moderators apparently didn't think so.



When I see a lie, and it annoys me, I point it out. If I have the time, that is. I had the time yesterday.

So Trump's many, many, many lies don't annoy you?

Funny that.

 

[phiwum]

As others have noted, they apparently didn't let themselves be bothered too much by the racist and violent rhetoric.

My family believes that Hillary is a crook and will do whatever to enrich herself. They believe that an racist incompetent will cause less harm to the nation than a conniving thief.

Obviously, I think that their view of Clinton is a gross exaggeration, but this is why they voted for Trump. I also imagine that they simply ignored Trump's more overtly racist comments.

 

[uke2se]

My family believes that Hillary is a crook and will do whatever to enrich herself. They believe that an racist incompetent will cause less harm to the nation than a conniving thief.

Obviously, I think that their view of Clinton is a gross exaggeration, but this is why they voted for Trump. I also imagine that they simply ignored Trump's more overtly racist comments.

Ironic that in order to prevent a crook who would do anything to enrich herself from becoming president, they voted for a crook who would do anything to enrich himself and who is a flaming racist as well.

 

[sunmaster14]

So Trump's many, many, many lies don't annoy you?

Funny that.

Lies that have been pointed out and recognized by others don't annoy me. I get annoyed when people deny those lies, however.

 

[Belz...]

Ironic that in order to prevent a crook who would do anything to enrich herself from becoming president, they voted for a crook who would do anything to enrich himself and who is a flaming racist as well.

Yeah, it boggles the mind that they would choose a corrupt businessman to root out corruption, a habitual liar to show up the liars, a racist to demonstrate their exhasperation with identity politics, and a rich man to represent the common folk against rich men.

 

[uke2se]

Yeah, it boggles the mind that they would choose a corrupt businessman to root out corruption, a habitual liar to show up the liars, a racist to demonstrate their exhasperation with identity politics, and a rich man to represent the common folk against rich men.

It boggles the mind so much I half suspect it to be a convenient excuse.

 

[Belz...]

It boggles the mind so much I half suspect it to be a convenient excuse.

It's entirely possible. It's also possible that they simply aren't smart or educated enough to notice the discrepancy.