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CNN is reporting that Trump wants Bannon as chief of staff, according to unnamed sources.

This is seriously demented.
 
Cain said:
In all fairness, there's a gap between what any politician says they're going to do and what they actually get done. Probably more so with a guy like Trump. One of the worst things about this elections is the reminder that we reside in the United States of Amnesia. People don't remember what the last aggressively uninformed, anti-intellectual candidate did to the country? Eternal vigilance.

Trump will be all smiles through his brief honeymoon period. It's more difficult to see what's going to happen when he's faced with some adversity.
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Like a fraud trial?
 
Emily's Cat said:
It was a surprisingly good speech.

there have been a few moments during this campaign that have made me step back and wonder a bit. Trump is a showman - he always has been. He knows how to play an audience, he knows how to negotiate. From the perspective of an average person, it's pretty ruthless negotiation... but it's also successful. I end up wondering if his campaign has been mostly show and bluster because that's the anchor point he needs to weaken his opponent's position. I have on occasion wondered if he might be a bit more Machiavellian that I give him credit for.
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I would say he knows how to sell but that isn't the same as negotiating. Given the many business failures and the resultant messes he embroiled himself in (for example having to live on a doled out stipend paid by his banks) I really don't think there is a lot of evidence of him being a good negotiator.
 
Emily's Cat said:
I'd actually rather see the approach used in NE and Maine. Apportion the votes based on the outcomes in the congressional districts, with the additional 2 going to whoever has the most. It would also allow for an even split in some states.

The approach of "popular vote winner gets all the votes" runs the risk of one small locale with an intense preference drown out everyone else's voice. In particular, California and New York will end up with HUGE sway, and the entire rest of the country will get ignored. Might as well not even vote, I guess.
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Yes,highly populated areas would have more sway, but they should have. It's not about the land, it's about the people. A voter in New York shouldn't have any less power than a voter in Montana, just because he lives there.
 
Emily's Cat said:
I don't know enough about the parliamentary system.
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Most people who live with them don't either. But they still get to vote and even get elected. I often wonder what that's all about.

I agree that it's the politics that are the problem. Actually, it's not even that - it's fptp that's the problem. It forces an ever-widening platform for the parties, regardless of the actual wants, needs, and concerns of the citizenry. We just need to scrap the current voting structure and allow either a multiple vote system or a ranked voting system.
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It's just as well politics isn't the problem, because you get way more of that in a proportional sytem. Which is quite possibly a good thing.

I think a two-party sytem is a problem, which a proportional sytem acts against, but having too many parties creates a one-party reality. A system of two reasonably fragile alliances seems to work best, for sensible values of "reasonable".
 
NoahFence said:
Is English your second language?

The article detailed conflicts of interest. These were all common knowledge.

It's too late to educate the population on that. They already said they don't care.
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English is indeed my second language.I was raised in Oklahoma.

That said, it is clear that the Post's article remains newsworthy. In fact, I'd wager that a large majority of their readers did not vote for Trump, and some non-negligible part of their readers care about this issue.

Your view is simply bizarre.
 
Cain said:
In all fairness, there's a gap between what any politician says they're going to do and what they actually get done. Probably more so with a guy like Trump.
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Trump's supporters are expecting a much less so from their man, so there's a prospect of tension there.

One of the worst things about this elections is the reminder that we reside in the United States of Amnesia.
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With regard to Trump's people, they've been made short-term promises that they can easily be reminded of.

People don't remember what the last aggressively uninformed, anti-intellectual candidate did to the country? Eternal vigilance.
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A deeply flawed analogy, to my mind. You're referring to Bush, but I always think of the Cheney-Rove administration, with Rumsfeld yapping alongside. The Trump administration will not be anything like that.

Trump will be all smiles through his brief honeymoon period. It's more difficult to see what's going to happen when he's faced with some adversity.
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Indeed. It's his reactions to events which will be most telling. And there will, inevitably, be events.
 
CapelDodger said:
Trump's tax policy favours the rich and their families, so that promise will surely be kept. Scrapping the Affordable Care Act and the Paris Climate accord likewise.

I think the real test of a President is in their reaction to events rather than their deliberate actions. I don't have much confidence in Trump in that regard.
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Yeah his tax policy is going to favour the rich, no surprise there. Scrapping the ACA would be a really bad idea, see also rescinding Obamas executive orders.

I am not so sure he will be able to tear up the Paris Climate Accord.

I recall watching a video some time back presented by high up (presumably retired high up) US military person where they accepted that it was definitely a thing and were making contingency plans based on it.

There are almost certainly some very sobering realities that a POTUS learns about that are kept quiet from Joe Public, and I'd bet that Climate Change and how far advanced it is is one of those.

Also I read today that the rest of the nations signed up are saying that they will all press full steam ahead without the US anyway, and the the process to extricate a country from the Paris deal takes 4 years, so I think he will find that, at least, harder to do than he imagines.

I am quietly hoping that the next 4 years will pass uneventfully and Trump won't have to react to anything on the scale of 9/11, I suspect that is somewhat forlorn.
 
Darat said:
And?

Seriously why would he be bothered about that?
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Trump might not want to antagonise the party so early on. Or, of course, he might want to assert his authority right from the start.

I'm not convinced the party would push back, given the latter possibility and Bannion's lack of experience.
 
dudalb said:
At least in the good old days when the Kings had mistresses,they did with some class.
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I'm not going to pick on his wife under ANY circumstances. I don't care about the nude pictures. I kind of hate that they are now being published. I despise Trump, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm going to leave his family alone unless THEY do something to bring it on. And I wouldn't care if she was a pro in her past. Trump is a far bigger sleaze than she could ever be.
 
acbytesla said:
I'm not going to pick on his wife under ANY circumstances. I don't care about the nude pictures. I kind of hate that they are now being published. I despise Trump, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm going to leave his family alone unless THEY do something to bring it on. And I wouldn't care if she was a pro in her past. Trump is a far bigger sleaze than she could ever be.
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Melania was a professional model, that's what they do. In my opinion she should be proud of her work, and own it both morally and legally. She has nothing to be ashamed of.

Donald, on the other hand, probably groped and forced himself on dozens of models before he found her.
 
Ambrosia said:
Yeah his tax policy is going to favour the rich, no surprise there. Scrapping the ACA would be a really bad idea, see also rescinding Obamas executive orders.

I am not so sure he will be able to tear up the Paris Climate Accord.

I recall watching a video some time back presented by high up (presumably retired high up) US military person where they accepted that it was definitely a thing and were making contingency plans based on it.

There are almost certainly some very sobering realities that a POTUS learns about that are kept quiet from Joe Public, and I'd bet that Climate Change and how far advanced it is is one of those.

Also I read today that the rest of the nations signed up are saying that they will all press full steam ahead without the US anyway, and the the process to extricate a country from the Paris deal takes 4 years, so I think he will find that, at least, harder to do than he imagines.

I am quietly hoping that the next 4 years will pass uneventfully and Trump won't have to react to anything on the scale of 9/11, I suspect that is somewhat forlorn.
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Tearing up the Paris accord wouldn't bother me, but scrapping Obamacare is a different matter. 22 million people will be disenfranchised, including myself. I'm not poor, but I am self-employed, and have a pre-existing condition (diabetes) so I will go back to uninsured status shortly.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
Melania was a professional model, that's what they do. In my opinion she should be proud of her work, and own it both morally and legally. She has nothing to be ashamed of.

Donald, on the other hand, probably groped and forced himself on dozens of models before he found her.
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I don't have a problem with the pictures per se, but why they are being published now. It's like say your friend marries the girl everyone slept with. You DON'T say a word. There are things people with class do or don't do. That part of Melania's life was a long time ago. They aren't publishing them now because the pics are good. They are publishing them because she will be the first lady.
 
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