2016 Presidential Debate III

The Great Zaganza said:
Trump wants Judges to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Seriously?
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Donald doesn't give a flying **** about abortion (and I would bet he has paid for some himself).

But he has to say that he's against it because he's a Republican. He would have even less of a chance if didn't because lots of his voters would abandon him.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Trump wants Judges to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Seriously?
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No... a very strident and vocal portion of the party he chose to ride to the White House wants to overturn Roe V. Wade.

The Donald has probably never given it much thought in his life (other than paternity suit consequences and the like).


Ninja'd I was. :(
 
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Look, I get defunding Pkanned Parenthood etc., but he basically said that the government must actively prevent a woman from having an abortion: Clinton looked downright Reagan-like when she said that the state should stay out of that decision.
Trump obviously wants to grab women by the pussy to prevent abortions!
 
Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruin

The third and final presidential debate has ended, and it can now be said: Hillary Clinton crushed Donald Trump in the most effective series of debate performances in modern political history.

The polling tells the story. As Nate Silver notes, on the eve of the first presidential debate, Clinton led by 1.5 points. Before the second, she was up by 5.6 points. Before the third, she was winning by 7.1 points. And now, writing after the third debate — a debate in which Trump said he would keep the nation “in suspense” about whether there would be a peaceful transition of power, bragged about not apologizing to his wife, and called Clinton “such a nasty woman” — it’s clear that Trump did himself no favors. Early polls also suggest Clinton won.

And it’s not just the presidential race. Betting markets now predict Democrats will win the Senate. Polls have started showing Democrats in striking distance of the House. The GOP has collapsed into a mid-election civil war, with the party’s presidential nominee openly battling the speaker of the House.

This is not normal. As Andrew Prokop concluded in his review of the political science evidence around presidential debates, “There’s little historical evidence that they’ve ever swung polls by more than a few percentage points.” In this case, they did. And it’s because Clinton executed a risky strategy flawlessly.
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There is evidence that people's response to the debate is influenced by the how the media covers it. And by far the biggest thing they are talking about is Donald refusing to say he will accept the result of the election and how crazy and un American it is.

What a dumbass.
 
marplots said:
He didn't actually say that. What Trump said is that he would decide at the time whether to accept the results or not. Presumably, such a decision would be based on whether he thought there was fraud.

But, despite the spin, Trump didn't say he wouldn't accept a loss. In fact, I think he said something about keeping us in suspense.
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In other words, he's treating the elections like reality TV.
 
At the end of the debate Donald look more dour than a homeless guy who just had his last cigarette stolen and then found out he was going to have to sleep in the rain without a park bench or a newspaper. Hillary on the other hand looked like she was ready to go another 90 mins.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Look, I get defunding Pkanned Parenthood etc., but he basically said that the government must actively prevent a woman from having an abortion: Clinton looked downright Reagan-like when she said that the state should stay out of that decision.
Trump obviously wants to grab women by the pussy to prevent abortions!
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The most intimate and hardest medical decision of a woman's life should not be made for her by a bunch of old men that don't have a clue as to her condition or where she's at. Period.
 
PhantomWolf said:
The most intimate and hardest medical decision of a woman's life should not be made for her by a bunch of old men that don't have a clue as to her condition or where she's at. Period.
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The stupid thing is Trump probably secretly agrees.

The dude is just a slogan
 
Meadmaker said:
Two more thoughts that popped into my head.

Will the right wingers complain about moderator bias this time? I don't think they've got much of a case.



I also note that Donald talked about his famous interactions with women over the years, insisting that his nine accusers were publicity seeking liars that he didn't even know.

The mind boggles at the brazenness of the denial, but watching it, the best part for me was that if there were nine of them to come forward already, there must be quite a few more that could be waiting in the wings, and at least a few of them must have been really ticked off by him yet again denying he did anything, and then insulting his accusers yet again. Will there be another week of "He did it to me, too?"


One thing that might be funny to see is someone come forward and say, "He made an unwanted advance on me. He touched me without permission, but I kind of liked it, and we ended up having some really great sex." At some point, I'm sure it happened. I'd like to see it just because I wonder if his ego could let him insist that he never made the advance if it also didn't allow him to brag about the great looking girl he bedded.
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The "I didn't know these women" is such a bizarre denial. It is trivial to show they (or at least a few of them) did meet with him. Why choose that as your denial?
 
Steven Colbert:

Trump to Clinton:Six billion dollars lost [in Iraq], how do you lose 6 billion dollars?

Colbert: You open six casinos.
 
Abortion like Religion and healthcare are topic on which Trump thinks he knows what his supporters want, but really doesn't.
 
Is anyone else put off by his pointing? It is very rude, IMHO, and he has done it previously.
 
First thing noticed -- Hillary used the number 33,000 females a couple times early in the debate. I thought it was an unfortunate number to harp on. Then I realized "33,000 females" -- "33,000 emails"... Hmm, could someone be trying to affect Google searches?

One thing I was looking for, I was pointed to by none other than Nick the Fox from Zootopia. When publicly asked a difficult question, twist it around to make it another question you like and then answer that one. I saw them both do that several times.

There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmys were rigged against him.

TRUMP: Should have gotten it.

(LAUGHTER)

CLINTON: This is -- this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling.
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I wasn't quite sure I'd heard him say it but there it is in the transcript. I'm sure we'll hear something similar in about three weeks.
 
Puppycow said:
Hasn't that been the official GOP position for a long time (official as in, it's in their platform)?
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It was weird how he didn't want to say that was his goal, even when pressed, but that the judges he would appoint would "automatically" make that happen. Not sure what that was about.
 
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