Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI

[phiwum]

Sure do!

I will wager you $10.00 that the Democrats sweep the 2016 election. My bet is that the Democrats will take the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives.

I hope that is acceptable.

Sure. That's acceptable. I don't think the Democrats will take the House.

And if I'm wrong, I can live with it, even at a $10 loss.

 

[Dr. Keith]

That's the weirdest part of all this. Even rapists will claim "She really wanted it, I could tell." But Trump literally doesn't think he's doing anything wrong when he accosts women against their will. It's as if he said "Whenever I need cash, I just knock over a liquor store. You can do that when you're a star."

Agreed completely. Nice analogy, and not too far off how he treats banks.

 

[Cain]

I watched Rush saying this last night on a YouTube clip. I busted out laughing and agreeing with the blowhard. (That doesn't happen very often) Yes, Rush, that is the point. I don't care about your sexual acts as long as they are consensual. Whatever floats your boat as long as everyone is safe and it is consensual. As long as you're not taking advantage of anyone who can't legitimately give their consent, like a minor or the incapacitated or the mentally deficient.

Your loss. Few things are as hot as non-consensual sex.

What did P.J. O'Rourke observe? "No woman has ever fantasized about someone dressing up as a liberal and ******* her."

 

[Belz...]

Men talk about sex, men brag about sex, men brag about sex with people they could never have sex with, but they brag about the women wanting to have sex, not about forcing the women to have sex.

Sure they do.

 

[varwoche]

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of Lou Dobbs' character deficit:

Lou Dobbs tweets Trump accuser's address and phone number

 

[halleyscomet]

What is odd about all of this is the framing of non-consensual advances as manly or locker room banter.

Men talk about sex, men brag about sex, men brag about sex with people they could never have sex with, but they brag about the women wanting to have sex, not about forcing the women to have sex.

I don't know of any man who would admit to other men that they have to force themselves on women and the women just have to take it. Seriously, that is disturbed.

I knew a guy in college who did things like that. His "dating" advice to a friend whose girlfriend wouldn't "put out" was "Just rape the bitch, put her in her place."

Last I heard he'd managed to lose his virginity his senior year of college by date raping a drunk sorority girl at a frat party. This was a religious school and she was very deep into the "purity" movement. As a result she started dating him because she was "no loner pure."

I learned from one of his frat brothers that he was tolerated as a member because his father had been a member. It was implied there was a strong finical motive to keep him in the frat. He was not allowed to live in the frat house however because, in the words of his alleged best friend, "Nobody wants to live with that creepy mother **********."

I've described him as "The most odious person I've ever met face to face in my entire life," ever since. Thankfully, nobody has taken that crown so far, largely because the strongest contender may have been lying about one of his more vile claims.

 

[Crossbow]

Sure. That's acceptable. I don't think the Democrats will take the House.

And if I'm wrong, I can live with it, even at a $10 loss.

Thanks much.

We will see one way or the other on 08 NOV 2016.

 

[acbytesla]

Your loss. Few things are as hot as non-consensual sex.

Does that include the showers at Penn State or Folsom Prison?

 

[phiwum]

Thanks much.

We will see one way or the other on 08 NOV 2016.

Sure! Wouldn't mind to be on the wrong side of this bet, but I doubt I will.

We'll keep in touch.

 

[trustbutverify]

"They let you do it."

Did I get the quote right? I'm too lazy to look it up again.

Those stuck up sluts should be thanking an alpha like Trump for putting his hands all over them without any hint of permission. Don't they understand it's a compliment?

 

[trustbutverify]

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of Lou Dobbs' character deficit:

Lou Dobbs tweets Trump accuser's address and phone number

Intimidate others from coming forward. SOP for this crew.

 

[Belz...]

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of Lou Dobbs' character deficit:

Lou Dobbs tweets Trump accuser's address and phone number

Despicable.

 

[Belz...]

Those stuck up sluts should be thanking an alpha like Trump for putting his hands all over them without any hint of permission. Don't they understand it's a compliment?

Of course they do. All those accusations are designed to rip him off and ride on his good name for their benefit.

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[Dr. Keith]

Sure they do.

Not in my experience.

A common insult among my friends was that a guy didn't have a chance with a girl unless he brought along ruffies. In other words, guys who used such tactics were beneath contempt. Forcing yourself on someone was loser territory, not something to brag about.

 

[jimbob]

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of Lou Dobbs' character deficit:

Lou Dobbs tweets Trump accuser's address and phone number

It's a pity he isn't in the UK, the CPS has updated its guidelines on using existing legislation to prosecute harassment within the last few weeks.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Exactly.
Cheap Trick got the heart of it with the line: I want you to want me. Not I want you to stay still for a minute.

Wasn't that second one a buzzcocks song?

 

[Darat]

Thanks much.

We will see one way or the other on 028 NOV 2016.

FTFY - Shesh you'd think you would know the date of the election!

 

[jimbob]

FTFY - Shesh you'd think you would know the date of the election!trial

FIFY

 

[halleyscomet]

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of Lou Dobbs' character deficit:

Lou Dobbs tweets Trump accuser's address and phone number

Holy ****.

That's low.

Really, really low.

Even if her claims are false, that's really, really low.

This is a blatant and overtly evil effort to harass her and intimidate other potential victims from coming forward.

 

[jimbob]

From badscience, but again, Liverpoolmiss nails it.

Again, I'll let the autocensor do its work.

Subject: Indecision 2016

I don't know if this is quite what you are saying, but I saw a video of someone saying it should be impossible to vote for someone after they made the comments about grabbing a woman by the vagina. And I have to say I really disagree.

Imagine if this was Bill Clinton against Trump and it was Bill Clinton who had been caught on camera making the grabbing comment, but nonetheless he has the policy positions you'd expect, while Donald trump had run exactly the same campaign as he has but never made horrible sexist comments and wasn't caught on camera making that statement. Who do you vote for?

Or another example, imagine if the president can only act on issues to do with women's rights, including abortion (so triumph couldn't implement his ideas on foreign policy, immigration, security and couldn't introduce any anti-Muslims stuff) and you had to choose between Trump, having made these horrible remarks and demonstrated so many times that he is disgustingly sexist, and Pence. Pence may be a much nicer and more personable man to be around, but I think he would make much nastier legislation that would do a lot more damage to the lives of women. So would you choose him or trump?

I wouldn't say the character stuff is meaningless, especially not when it as extreme as it is with trump, but i think it is less of a problem than the actual hideous policies he has proposed and the kind of actions you can predict he will make if elected.

This post got lost a bit in the fun, but it's an interesting one. I think the following would explain why I'd vote for a sexual assaulter or a crook, if the alternative was someone who would be awful for the wider world.


My top 15 reasons not to vote for Trump:

1) Unstable thin-skinned bully as Commander in Chief and in charge of nuclear weapons


What, how could anyone need more? Well OK then, loads of reasons why he’d be devastating for the world as a whole:

2) Would surrender to Putin on anything and everything, from Ukraine to invasion of the Balts to sanctions, and has continually attacked Nato and America’s Nato allies

3) He would overturn the Paris climate treaty and actively try to wreck the US renewables industry while giving fossil fuel industries anything they want

4) Happy for nuclear proliferation to Saudi etc

5) Eager to start conflict with Iran, make war on Middle East countries to “take all their oil”, has his own childish fantasies about crushing ISIS while ignoring the advice of generals

6) Wants soldiers to commit war crimes, murder terrorists and their families, and torture non-terrorists because they probably deserve it anyway

7) Would wreck the US economy, and with it damage the rest of the world economy, causing poverty and death for unknown numbers in the US and elsewhere. Suggested the US should default on its debt.


Then a whole bunch of reasons why he’ll be a disaster for America:

8. Deportation force to round up immigrants, put them in custody and deport them

9) Direct racist who seeks support from white supremacists and the KKK, wants to discriminate against African Americans and Hispanic Americans, including new police powers, stop and frisk and capital punishment for alleged rapists if they are black, even if later found innocent. Plus a delightful sprinkling of anti-Semitism

10) Direct Islamophobe who wants special surveillance and registers of Muslims, plus random nonsense about banning Muslims entering the country

11) A proven sexist who wants to discriminate against women in the workplace, particularly pregnant women

12) Wants “power of veto” over the media, loosening of libel laws, generally attacks free speech

13) Has called for special prosecutor to override law and the FBI and lock up his political opponent, and generally is obsessed with revenge and wants to use state institutions to pursue personal vendettas. Admires dictators and loves to threaten/encourage violence at his rallies, including hinting that gun nuts should assassinate his opponent. Suggested American civilians could be tried by military commissions at Guantanamo. Wants his thugs to “monitor” polling booths in “certain communities” to ensure “they” don’t rig the election

14) Wants to appoint extreme right wingers to the Supreme Court, including going along with Republican anti-abortion policies

15) Continual liar who is addicted to conspiracy theories, making him dangerously unpredictable


So I’m sorry to say his sexual assaults on women, and his boasting about sexually assaulting women, doesn’t even make the top 15. That’s just damage to individuals, rather active damage to the entire world and destruction of the USA.


A bunch of further reasons that didn’t make my top 15 involving the damage he has done to individuals:

- Sexually assaults women
- Voyeurism against young women, including under 18s
- Attacked the Muslim parents of a dead solider
- Personally insults distinguished public servants, generals, etc
- Mocks veterans and POWs, mocks the disabled, mocks women for their personal appearance, uses racist insults, uses belittling insults


A bunch of reasons that show he’s nearer a fraudster than a successful businessman:

- Cheats on his taxes
- Uses his “charitable” foundation for personal benefit and lies about his charity donations
- Business failures and bankruptcies
- Lies about how much money he’s got and how much his father gave him
- Trump University fraud
- Cheats small businesses out of the money he owes them
- Actively sought illegal immigrants to employ
- Ties to mafia
- Lied about offering child care to his employees
- Financial links to Russia, Colonel Gadhafi, China


A bunch of reasons to do with him being a pathetic individual who’s basically a nasty little ****:

- Obsession with TV ratings, how much applause his speech gets, size of rallies, uses fake polls to claim he’s winning or won debates
- Boasted during a debate about the size of his penis
- Lied about 9/11 and boasted it made his building the tallest
- Congratulated himself over terrorist attacks and again after an African American was murdered
- False boasts about predicting Brexit
- Dodged the draft
- Used pseudonyms to pretend to be his own press spokesman
- When introducing his own running mate, just talked about himself
- Called avoiding STIs his own personal Vietnam
- Lied about opposing Iraq war
- Family and close supporters retweet and spread extreme rightwing memes, lies and abuse, while Trump himself refuses to disown and occasionally join in
- Chose as his first campaign chief someone who got arrested for grabbing a reporter, second had close links to Russia and Ukraine dictator, third makes anti-Semitic comments and has been accused of domestic abuse
- Talks bollocks about a fantasy wall that Mexico will pay for
- Talks bollocks about ISIS and how scary it is
- Urged hacking by Russia of Democrats emails
- Probably fixed his Florida Trump University lawsuit by bribing the state AG


Failing to make any list

- Said the word pussy


I hate to point out that the reason America seems to be rejecting him seem to be the wrong ones. I suspect the awful horrific lewd word “pussy” changed a lot of votes, for ****’s sake you uptight ***** with an obsession with swearing. Then stuff about sexual assault. Then stuff about his taxes.

Too few Americans seem to care about what he would mean for America, let alone the wider world.