Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI

[CapelDodger]

I recommend reading this whole piece on bunkered up Donald but debate prep was tossed to the wind in favor of attempted damage control.

Is anyone keeping a cap on his comfort-food consumption, I wonder? That stuff's notoriously unhealthy, and can even lead to seizures.

(oh please oh please oh please ...)

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Also, it is the Republicans' fault for stabbing him in the back. LOL

I believe the preferred term among Trump supporters is Dolchstoßlegende

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I love the false equivocation of consensual sex with sexual assault but it's not a defense of Donald.

Trumped bragged about assaults and was oblivious to the fact they were assaults.

Clinton was accused of groping, coming on to women who weren't necessarily willing and in one case a date-rape/rape depending on your POV. He never admitted to assaultive behavior and political motivations for some of the accusations could not be ruled out. Broderick's accusations remain troubling.

Different but equally problematic.

But, the attempt to smear Hillary for comments supporting her husband, considering he was most certainly lying to her and she would have wanted to believe him, just doesn't carry the same weight as Trump would no doubt like it to.

 

[Myron Proudfoot]

Any bets that there is even worse to come? It'd seem good politics to keep ramping it up and not to reveal the worst of it a month before the election..

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Clinton is a serial seducer but he doesn't do it by backing women against a wall and forcing his hand up their skirts. He's a charmer, not a thug. There's no equivalence.

That ignores a couple accusations like groping Kathleen Wiley and Broderick's rape that may not have been politically motivated.

 

[CapelDodger]

I can just imagine about a year from now Trump looking right at an interviewer and with a straight face claiming he never ran for President.

So can I now. You should bookmark that : you may be the first to have come up with it.

 

[Tony Stark]

Any bets that there is even worse to come? It'd seem good politics to keep ramping it up and not to reveal the worst of it a month before the election..

I would be surprised if there isn't something worse.

 

[JoeMorgue]

You see this is why I dislike dynasties in politics, it brings too much baggage in with it and we wind up acting like we're considering electing people again when we're talking about electing their relatives.

Bill Clinton isn't running so even if you could make a 1:1 comparison between him and Trump, which you can't but whatever, it wouldn't matter.

 

[Minoosh]

It's worth noting that "they" does not only mean Democrats. "They" includes the Bush clan at the very least.

Well Bush was the gossip reporter ...

 

[CapelDodger]

He has the morality of a bull elephant during the rutting season.

Sorry to nitpick the metaphor (it's in my nature, what can I say?) but bull elephants can't rut until they're mature, and Trump is far from that.

 

[Minoosh]

Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio says that he will be voting for Mike Pence for president???

How does that work given that Pence is running for Vice President? Does that still count as a vote for the Trump/Pence ticket?

I can only think of one way.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Since when is walking into a dressing room sexual assault? At worst, it's some version of voyeurism, although I can't imagine what he did would be illegal in any state since he was presumably authorized to go to any room in the building.

Please just stop.

 

[Cain]

That ignores a couple accusations like groping Kathleen Wiley and Broderick's rape that may not have been politically motivated.

A lot of doubt has been raised about those cases.

What's amusing about all of the desperate shrieks "Bill Clinton is a rapist" is that the alt-right has been notorious for claiming there are way too many false rape accusations in our society, yet many of them are willing to accept this one on faith.

 

[CapelDodger]

Well Bush was the gossip reporter ...

I know, and "the conversation was private"! There's simply no limit to Trump's idiocy. Someone should give him a fork and a toaster and tell him there's a dollar stuck inside. Then zap! and blame it on a dodgy mike ...

 

[Grizzly Bear]

You see this is why I dislike dynasties in politics, it brings too much baggage in with it and we wind up acting like we're considering electing people again when we're talking about electing their relatives.

Bill Clinton isn't running so even if you could make a 1:1 comparison between him and Trump, which you can't but whatever, it wouldn't matter.

Yet again... the Bill Clinton analogy has nothing to do with whether he is running right now. He' a case study precedent of someone who got elected into office... and committed such vulgarities while there. Yet the argument as it is right now is that we shouldnt elect someone who speaks of women this way. Thats the double standard.

It doesnt make what Trump said back then right. It doesn't make what he said "smart". I refuse to defend what je he said because I too find it offensive. At the end of the day however you are basically arguing that such behavior is unbecoming for a prospective future POTUS..... after having already elected one.

Hillary Clinton is not responsible for what Bill Clinton did during his time in office. But i would not be surprised if her staying with Bill was for her future political prospects

 

[CapelDodger]

That ignores a couple accusations like groping Kathleen Wiley and Broderick's rape that may not have been politically motivated.

I'm open to persuasion, but it doesn't seem to be a pattern of behaviour, which I would generally expect to see in such cases.

 

[CapelDodger]

I can only think of one way.

Will you plead the 5th Amendment if you're asked what it is?

 

[JoeMorgue]

Yet again... the Bill Clinton analogy has nothing to do with whether he is running right now. He' a case study precedent of someone who got elected into office... and committed such vulgarities while there. Yet the argument as it is right now is that we shouldnt elect someone who speaks of women this way. Thats the double standard

Some of us are more concerned about doing what's best for our country then making sure both sides have equal tick marks on their score cards.

Hypocrisy in politics can be an issue to be sure, but it's not the end all be all factor.

I'd rather back a hypocrite than a sexual assaulter.

 

[dasmiller]

Will you plead the 5th Amendment if you're asked what it is?

If only there was a way that someone could simply write down the name of the person they wanted to vote for, rather than picking one of the names already on the ballot.

 

[sunmaster14]

A lot of doubt has been raised about those cases.

What's amusing about all of the desperate shrieks "Bill Clinton is a rapist" is that the alt-right has been notorious for claiming there are way too many false rape accusations in our society, yet many of them are willing to accept this one on faith.

In both the Willey case and the Broaddrick case, there is quite a bit of contemporaneous corroborating evidence. Broaddrick apparently told five friends about the rape immediately afterwards, and she had the wounds to show that she had been attacked. Furthermore, Bill Clinton himself has never denied the attack happened. The only official denial that has ever been made is through his lawyer.