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Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

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DavidJames said:
Here are the facts supporting her claim.

Oh, she was being kind.
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Great sources you have. The poll in question also asked people if they had a higher opinion of Trump than:

Hemorrhoids, Cockroaches, Nickelback, Used Car Salesmen, and Lice.

Sounds like a real credible poll. :rolleyes: In addition, there is the well known effect with such polls that when crazy questions start getting asked, the serious people hangup, and only demented people or trolls continue answering. Thus, the selection bias towards crazy answers is very strong.

Putting that aside, I hardly think that believing Obama is a Muslim or that he was not born in the US, let alone saying that you believe it, makes somebody "deplorable," "irredeemable," or "un-American." Hell, one of Hillary's cronies - the governor of Virginia - just reinstated the right to vote for felons. Do you think she would argue that the felons who vote for her (and they are expected to in overwhelming numbers) are "deplorable?" Which is worse - being a felon or believing Obama is a Muslim?
 
Knee Jerk reaction #1: More evidence of her frailty.

Knee Jerk reaction #2: Nothing to see here...move along.

Appropriate critical thinking reaction: Let's wait and see what really happened before jumping to any conclusions.
 
pgwenthold said:
Saw someone point out yesterday, isn't it odd that now Trump supporters are whining that Clinton wasn't sufficiently politically correct?

The problem Trump supporters have with her comment is that she called them deplorable. They don't deny the racist and xenophopia, only her characterization that it is deplorable.
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Considering what they say about Hillary at every single Trump rally, I thought she was being generous.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Knee Jerk reaction #1: More evidence of her frailty.

Knee Jerk reaction #2: Nothing to see here...move along.

Appropriate critical thinking reaction: Let's wait and see what really happened before jumping to any conclusions.
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I think Knee Jerk reaction #1 is perfectly rational. It clearly does represent more evidence of her frailty. How strong that evidence may be remains to be seen, but it's still more evidence. Remember also that these episodes (the coughing, the extremely low energy speech, with a weird affect, this "overheating" in mild weather) are happening at a time when her campaign is very sensitive to questions about her health. They're probably trying their best to make her seem peppy. For example, giving her lots of rest, hydrating her, giving her various cold medicines, etc. There are things you can do to present at your best. If this is the best she can do, then it's likely there are serious problems.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Great sources you have. The poll in question also asked people if they had a higher opinion of Trump than:

Hemorrhoids, Cockroaches, Nickelback, Used Car Salesmen, and Lice.
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I have a higher opinion of all of the above than Trump. Also, that's not actually a good reason to doubt the results of a poll.

Putting that aside, I hardly think that believing Obama is a Muslim or that he was not born in the US, let alone saying that you believe it, makes somebody "deplorable," "irredeemable," or "un-American."
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I'd consider both to be strong indicators of racism (and really, birtherism is pure "blacks aren't Americans" racism straight out of slavery days), so yes, those are "deplorable".

Hell, one of Hillary's cronies - the governor of Virginia - just reinstated the right to vote for felons.
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Well, he's been trying, and I certainly support it - people who have been released should be allowed to fully reenter society, unless there's a compelling reason to continue to restrict them in a particular way (child molestors do not get to work in day cares, as an obvious example). Reinstating the vote should certainly be included in this.

Do you think she would argue that the felons who vote for her (and they are expected to in overwhelming numbers) are "deplorable?" Which is worse - being a felon or believing Obama is a Muslim?
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Depends on the felony, now doesn't it?
 
sunmaster14 said:
I think Knee Jerk reaction #1 is perfectly rational. It clearly does represent more evidence of her frailty. How strong that evidence may be remains to be seen, but it's still more evidence. Remember also that these episodes (the coughing, the extremely low energy speech, with a weird affect, this "overheating" in mild weather) are happening at a time when her campaign is very sensitive to questions about her health. They're probably trying their best to make her seem peppy. For example, giving her lots of rest, hydrating her, giving her various cold medicines, etc. There are things you can do to present at your best. If this is the best she can do, then it's likely there are serious problems.
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Wouldn't it be nice of that orange faced fascist you support would release his health information and tax information so we can have the information on both candidates?
 
*cough*

Stacko said:
Clinton campaign says Hillary Clinton felt overheated so she departed to Chelsea's apartment & is feeling much better.

ETA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-ill-during-911-memorial-service-in-new-york/
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pre$$titutes said:
"During the ceremony, she felt overheated, so departed to go to her daughter's apartment and is feeling much better."

Shortly before noon, Clinton was seen leaving daughter Chelsea's apartment. She hugged a child, waved and departed in her motorcade.
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Too bad there's video cameras everywhere these days:

https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200
 
Fudbucker said:
It was 84 out when she got "overheated". That doesn't happen to a healthy person.
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And you would know this how? What medical school did you attend? 84 is plenty warm to get overheated. There are other factors including hydration, direct or indirect sunlight , the amount of electrolytes in your system, etc. There are lots of factors that could allow a very healthy person to become acutely "overheated". And the ONLY way to know if there is a chronic condition is to perform a physical.

So unless you have the results of a physical, I would come to the conclusion that you are just another person raving on the Internet with nothing of value to offer.
 
eeyore1954 said:
I don't think she did anything wrong there. But getting a few hundred thousand from a trust and a loan in excess of a million dollars from a friend is not very common in the US.

But can you admit this was a completely out of touch statement.
"You have no reason to remember, but we came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt," Clinton said. "We had no money when we got there, and we struggled to piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for Chelsea's education. It was not easy.

They also purchased a home for over 2 1/2 million in DC when they left the White House. I suspect it was easy. They made a down payment of $850,000 on that home.
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Perspective, what's the actual list now:
She made a stupid statement about her finances.
She made a stupid statement about not wanting two devices (but it does turn out the want of her familiar blackberry was tangentially related).
She was loose with her feelings about the crowd of racists backing Trump.

Wow, what an awful person. :rolleyes:
 
acbytesla said:
And you would know this how? What medical school did you attend? 84 is plenty warm to get overheated. There are other factors including hydration, direct or indirect sunlight , the amount of electrolytes in your system, etc. There are lots of factors that could allow a very healthy person to become acutely "overheated". And the ONLY way to know if there is a chronic condition is to perform a physical.

So unless you have the results of a physical, I would come to the conclusion that you are just another person raving on the Internet with nothing of value to offer.
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Of course. Everyone needs to be aware of the dangers of hyperthermia when it's 84 out and 46% humidity. People keel over left and right in those conditions.

Why, if it happened to me, and I wanted to go the doctor, I would just be overreacting, right?
 
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