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Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part V

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Add to the list the tens of thousands of people who congratulated him on foreseeing Orlando. That number includes all the people who woke up on a Sunday to learn that dozens had been killed in Orlando and decided: I need to get a conratulatory letter in Trump's hands within 24 hours.
“I had been receiving tens of thousands of tweets, literally tweets and calls and letters and everything. Because I’ve been the one that predicted it. And I’m the one that said what you should be doing. And I don’t want the credit.”

-Trump on the Monday morning talk programs.​
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I just figured it out. Trump is Pinocchio but instead of his nose growing longer, his hair grows longer.


I don't think much of it is his hair, except maybe in the very technical sense that he paid for it.

And we can't even be very sure that he always uses his own money. It could easily have become a campaign expense.
 
Well, the most rational argument is that he isn't a Democrat
That's not a rational argument.

The rational thing to do is to look at all of the qualities of a candidate... their policies, their personality, and pick the one that you think would best benefit you or the voter. Rejecting a possibly superior candidate just because they belong to the wrong party is not rational, its foolish.

and the second most rational one is that he isn't Hillary.
Another irrational argument. Just being "not hillary" does not make anyone a superior candidate.
The third is that he will crack down on illegal immigration,
Hurray! An actual policy position that can be examined!

Ok, lets consider that policy... Trump wants to "crack down" on illegal immigigration. Part of that will be a wall, which will be extremely expensive and ineffective.

You see, claiming a candidate is good because they will deal with a particular issue is only relevant if what they'll do is actually beneficial. Spending billions on an ineffective wall is not better than doing nothing. Its worse.
It's kind of amazing that proposing something as rational as building a wall on a border where there are a million illegal crossings a year is considered somehow beyond the pale.
The wall may cost ~$25 billion by some estimates, will be largely ineffective (many illegal immigrants arrive on legal visas and overstay, others arrive by air or boat or other ways, and even the ones who cross by land can simply use a rope), and can negatively affect both the environment (affecting migration habits and isolating sub-populations of various species) and the lives of people who live there (the existing wall has subdivided some communities, since it can't follow the border exactly; its unlikely Trump's wall will be any different).

If someone says "lets spend almost $100 for every tax payer for something that doesn't solve the issue its supposed to but will cause widespread problems, I'd say that that's a pretty irrational thing to propose.
 
It is too
Somehow I doubt that you understand the first thing about the casino business or finance in general. Maybe Trump made bad decisions, maybe he got unlucky (followed up by lots of luck), but I doubt you have any idea which it is. I sure don't.
Apparently Trump didn't either considering he declared bankruptcy 5 times on his casino business. Oh BTW Steve Wynn understands the casino business and none of his casino businesses went bankrupt.


:rolleyes:
 
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The third is that he will crack down on illegal immigration, at least more than any other candidate would. It's kind of amazing that proposing something as rational as building a wall on a border where there are a million illegal crossings a year is considered somehow beyond the pale.

The whole "build a wall" business is another Trump scam. For one thing, there already are walls and fences along big sections of the border, including the most populous areas. For another, many illegal immigrants arrive on legal visas and overstay. For still another, illegal immigration has declined dramatically in recent years. Obama has deported far more illegal immigrants, particularly those convicted of other crimes, than his predecessors. Even Trump has acknowledged that.

And there's no magic wand to build a wall. Much of the property along the border is privately owned, and every owner would have to either sell access to his land, which he might not want to do, or be subjected to eminent domain, a lengthy legal process. A wall would have substantial impact on wildlife in the region and would have other environmental consequences. And that's all without mentioning the vast cost -- and the easy availability of ladders and shovels. The border is already perforated by drug dealers' undetectable tunnels; you think there wouldn't be more?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...vironmental-costs_us_57b36eaee4b0b42c38aedf21
http://www.slate.com/articles/healt..._wildlife_and_halt_science_at_the_border.html

The solution to illegal immigration is easy: Require all employers, from the biggest factories to the housewife paying cash to a gardener or nanny, to confirm every potential employee's eligibility for employment with E-verify, with criminal penalties for violators. It doesn't have to be a big penalty; a misdemeanor fine for every violation would be a sufficient disincentive, with bigger fines for repeat offenders. But that will never be imposed because big employers in some industries -- who coincidentally are big campaign contributors -- are the people who benefit most from the ability to hire unlimited, cheap, helpless labor.
 
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I tend to look at parents by how well their children turn out. And while it's clear that Fred Trump was a very successful businessesman ...
I'm not making value judgements, but considering the business environment he operated in and the heavy-duty people involved he must have been a man of considerable presence. In the New York property market of the day the East River was never far away, physically and metaphorically. :cool:

... when I view just how horrible a human being the Donald is, I think he must have neglected the development of his son.
I think he probably saw his role as introducing his son to his world: character would be more a mother's thing, and, of course, something he was paying those expensive schools to provide.

I doubt Fred's connections were nearly as impressed by Donald, and he does seem to have been stitched-up after Fred left the scene.

Trump's abusive treatment of others is unacceptable and disgusting. He's immature, obnoxious and arrogant.
I despise the man, as any decent person would.

These are not traits I would want in my children.
All I've ever asked of my offspring is that they stay hypothetical, and they haven't let me down, I'm glad to say.
 
And there's no magic wand to build a wall. Much of the property along the border is privately owned, and every owner would have to either sell access to his land, which he might not want to do, or be subjected to eminent domain, a lengthy legal process. A wall would have substantial impact on wildlife in the region and would have other environmental consequences. And that's all without mentioning the vast cost -- and the easy availability of ladders and shovels. The border is already perforated by drug dealers' undetectable tunnels; you think there wouldn't be more?

And some is publicly owned, such as a pretty stunning park that would be a bit less stunning with a wall extending through it.
 
It is too perfect because it's an utterly bogus poll. It's every bit as credible as one of the thread polls here.

Right, every poll that looks bad for Junior is bogus. And when he loses. its because of election fraud.

Somehow I doubt that you understand the first thing about the casino business or finance in general.

Apparently, neither does Junior.

Maybe Trump made bad decisions, maybe he got unlucky (followed up by lots of luck), but I doubt you have any idea which it is. I sure don't.

There was a reporter for the Wall Street journal who was writing about it as Junior was making the deals. He made the exact same points as Biscuit, plus he also went over how the specific numbers didn't work out. Junior then threatened to sue the WSJ unless the reporter apologized or was fired. Junior also fired and threatened to sue his publicist for not having the story torpedoed.


More legit than any of the conspiracies Junior or his mouthpieces are pushing



His tax returns won't tell you any of that actually. He's probably not releasing them because he doesn't feel he has to in order to get elected, and if he loses, he's probably going to wish he hadn't released them.





Well, the most rational argument is that he isn't a Democrat, and the second most rational one is that he isn't Hillary.

If that is the best you've got, you're screwed. The GOP managed to somehow put up the one big name in the race that would be even mrope despised than Hillary, and the DNC doesn't even need to invent conspiracy stories about him.

The third is that he will crack down on illegal immigration, at least more than any other candidate would.

How? He either plans to do something that is completely implausible, or he's going to do the same thing he has criticized everyone else for.

It's kind of amazing that proposing something as rational as building a wall on a border where there are a million illegal crossings a year is considered somehow beyond the pale.

Its amazing you think that a person that has crossed deserts, jungles, and mountains, traversed valleys and rivers, and ducked drug cartels, militias, corrupt militaries and cops is somehow going through all that, see a wall and say "nope, can't do it. Lets go back".

Its amazing the alleged party of small government sees no problem with sinking at least $66 billion into a wall that won't even work.
 
I'm not making value judgements, but considering the business environment he operated in and the heavy-duty people involved he must have been a man of considerable presence. In the New York property market of the day the East River was never far away, physically and metaphorically. :cool:

I think he probably saw his role as introducing his son to his world: character would be more a mother's thing, and, of course, something he was paying those expensive schools to provide.
To a certain degree, I agree with you and this really was the custom at the time. However, you don't abdicate the responsibility of raising your children to others not even your wife.

All I've ever asked of my offspring is that they stay hypothetical, and they haven't let me down, I'm glad to say.
By this you mean with empathy?
 
John Baron is back in the news.

Author Jerome Tuccille, who wrote a biography on Trump in the 1980s, had a run in with Baron when conducting research for the book — and told BuzzFeed News he only realized it was Trump when it was revealed this election cycle in press reports.

Tuccille wrote about his interaction with Baron in 1985 book, Trump: The Sage of America’s Most Powerful Real Estate Baron.

“This is John Baron of the Trump Organization, I understand you’ve been calling people all over town harassing them and misrepresenting yourself,” Tuccille recounts Baron saying in the book.

“Nonsense,” replied Tuccille. “I’ve kept Donald informed every step of the way about the book. I still hope to see him.”

Tuccille told BuzzFeed News in a phone interview this week he now realizes that “Holy ****, it was the Donald.”

“It was just a revelation to me,” Tuccille said. “That the man is duplicitous and that’s how he operates. It’s just the way he does business.”
The author said Baron issued a threat, not mentioned in his book, which caused him to shift all of his assets to his wife’s bank account.
 
Someone should tell Donald the Iraq war started in 2003 and not 2004.
 
I love how Donald just assumes that there wouldn't be an Islamic insurgency problem in a country whose oil wealth was being siphoned away by brute force. Moron.
 
Matt Lauer so far did not call Trump on his lie that he was always against the Iraq war.

Trump is claiming the US can hold the oil producing areas of Iraq with our soldiers and keep it.:jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp

Lauer let that slide and went on to ISIS.

Trump is bragging about the 88 generals that endorsed him, he shows the list in his pocket.
 
Clinton is burying Trump in TV ads in Swing States

Clinton is burying Trump in TV ads in September and October in Swing States with one exception.

In Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, New Hampshire Clinton has reserved from 8 to 14 times as much air time in the next two month. In Florida it's a little closer, its only 4 to 1. But Nevada Trump has spent only around $120,000. Hillary is about 80 times that much.

The one exception is Virginia where Clinton isn't spending any money and Trump is spending about 2 million dollars. Seems as if Trump thinks or hopes he can challenge Hillary there despite it being Kaine's home state and Clinton's 9 point lead.

Now Trump can close the gap somewhat by making spot buys, but that will cost him considerably more.
 
Matt Lauer so far did not call Trump on his lie that he was always against the Iraq war.

Trump is claiming the US can hold the oil producing areas of Iraq with our soldiers and keep it.:jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp :jaw-dropp

Lauer let that slide and went on to ISIS.

Trump is bragging about the 88 generals that endorsed him, he shows the list in his pocket.

Lauer doesn't do hard news and has no business doing that kind of interview.
 
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