Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part V

[acbytesla]

Sure but the list is fascinating. It gives you no pause does it?

No, I use to peruse the list and laugh about just how totally nuts some people get. We live in a world where some people just lose it. My best friend's father was a talented architect and really one of the kindest nicest person you could possibly meet and he turned into a conspiracy theory nutjob. The world and particularly the Internet is full of them.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Oh you mean like Trump raping his wife? That rational to you?

Yes, as a matter of fact, just like Trump raping his wife. In fact, there's more proof for Trump raping his wife than there is for the Clinton Body Count. There was actually a claim made that he raped his wife,.... by that wife. There is absolutely no such legitimate claim or accusation as to the Clintons having killed anyone. You object to the former, because she withdrew the charge (under OMG SECRET settlement, what's in that settlement huh, enquiring minds want to know). You don't object to repeating the latter although you know there is zero proof or evidence.

You want to play smarmy innuendo and then get away with it by "well, I did say, that some people are saying X". That's the game played by the Grand Wizard of the Orange Knights of the Penthouse. "Oh, I didn't say that it was true, but people are saying that....". If my conversational speaking points include articles I've read that were headlined, "Dwarf Rapes Nun, Escapes in UFO", I'd just change my newsfeed. Paleos don't just subscribe to those sites, they relish them, repeat their claims and send them to unsuspecting friends.

 

[Babbylonian]

Oh you mean like Trump raping his wife? That rational to you?

You mean an actual accusation that was made by said wife in a deposition and only softened after the completion of the divorce proceedings?

“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” the Ivana Trump statement said. “[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.” link

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...nald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

Believe me, that's much better evidence than you'll ever be able to dig up to prove anyone murdered Vince Foster.

 

[acbytesla]

Oh you mean like Trump raping his wife? That rational to you?

That's EXACTLY what his wife saId. In a LEGAL DEPOSITION.

This as opposed to the Clinton Body Count where a bunch of nut jobs speculated for example that the Clintons killed more than 50 people despite that there isn't a shred of evidence they were involved in any of them. Some of those people died in a plane crash in Eastern Europe, most died of natural or unknown causes, the one they really went hog wild on was Vince Foster a law partner with Hillary at the Rose Law firm. He committed suicide. Of course the suggestion the right wing nutjobs make is that he was about to tell all the dirt about Hillary and Bill and they had him killed.

I don't know if Trump raped his wife but he sure fits the profile of a rapist to a "T". A raging misogynist who has said that women should not work and stay home. Trump has constantly over the years called women "pigs, slobs, sluts, bitches as well as *****" Trump said that the best way to handle a woman was to treat her like crap. Actual word he use was "****".

 

[Regnad Kcin]

If you have to ask, I'm sure it's no use. I see Trump as a person who has struggled time to time with living life. He's made many of the mistakes normal people make. Hillary on the other hand has been involved with truly evil things, it is clear to see she is not a good person. She simply has a very dark heart, a soulless type of person if you will.

Years ago when I heard how she treated the people who protect her, that to me is just a terrible person. But the worst thing, just as this latest scandal, she gets away with things normal people would be punished for.

Trump on the other hand also seems to get away with saying stupid and unnecessary things, but he doesn't have a dark heart like Hillary.

What a silly little string of words. In a forum dedicated to critical thinking, no less.

 

[Ladewig]

We could find a few reasons so far Hillary should be in jail but got away with it.

If it had been the other way.

If the Republicans nominated Kasich and we knew he lied under oath and that there were rumors of murders. And the Democrats nominated someone who had never been elected to any office and never served in any state or federal position and who knew nothing about any aspect of government. I could be talked into voting Republican.

A criminal is preferable to an incompetitant boob.

A criminal can reform, a 70-year-old boob cannot learn how not to be a boob.

And there is ample evidence of his boobishness. I will cite just one.

This occurred in a deposition.

At one point, he told Trump that the businessman had stated he had "one of the best memories in the world," according to a transcript that includes hundreds of pages of testimony.
"I don't know. Did I use that expression?" Trump asked. When told he had used the phrase, the billionaire asked to see evidence that he had said it, being told there was video of his remark.
"Did I say I have a great memory or one of the best in the world?" Trump asked for clarification, to which he was told he'd said he had "one of the best in the world."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...recall-claim-of-having-worlds-greatest-memory
​

It reads like a Three Stooges routine.

 

[Ladewig]

If you have to ask, I'm sure it's no use. I see Trump as a person who has struggled time to time with living life. He's made many of the mistakes normal people make.

I can stop you right there. Normal people admit to making the normal mistakes that they make. Trump has never publicly admitted to being wrong, therefore comparing him to normal people is unhelpful.

 

[Trebuchet]

This is supposed to be the Trump thread. The Hillary thread is thattaway.

 

[Bob001]

I know, I'm in the building business, I know all about builders who don't pay. I also know contractors who do crappy work, work not done on time or complete and total screw ups. This may surprise you libs who no nothing about business, but non payment is about the only way to get them to correct it

Anybody who's ever had his kitchen remodeled knows that you hold back the final payment until the work is completed satisfactorily. But that's not what Trump has done to people all his life, which helps explain why he has been a party to more than 3500 law suits on one side or the other.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-reports/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Trump has demonstrably lied countless of tines, including under oath. he committed fraud with Trump University and bribed the attorney general to dismiss the case against it.
In short: on the one hand you have the FBI saying that nothing that Clinton did was criminal and on the other hand a number of judges saying what Trump did was.

 

[Bob001]

Trump has demonstrably lied countless of tines, including under oath. he committed fraud with Trump University and bribed the attorney general to dismiss the case against it.
....

A short catalog of Trump's crimes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...sedly-the-corrupt-one/?utm_term=.820fbf2fe047

 

[The Don]

Hey, the Trumpster just said he would show up for all three debates. So nice of him. Wonder if he'll back out like he did with his taxes.

Or like he did with the press conference about Melania's immigration status which was going to be in two weeks about a month ago

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Saw this comment to a Slashdot blurb, US Investigating Potential Covert Russian Plan To Disrupt November Elections:

Clinton hasn't said if she loses the system must be rigged. That's Trump.
Clinton hasn't benefited from Russian hackers. That's Trump.
Clinton isn't particularly approved by people like Putin and David Duke. That's Trump.
Clinton didn't win the lie of the year last year from politifact. That's Trump. In fact if you add up each of their true, mostly true and half of their half true statements, Clinton is at 61% compared to Trump's 22.5%, so Trump tells the truth about a third as often as Clinton does.
Clinton didn't basically ask for foreign espionage to be done on Hillary Clinton to help his campaign. That's Trump.
Clinton didn't call most Mexicans rapists and criminals. That's Trump.
Clinton didn't make up medical problems about her opponent. That's Trump.
Clinton didn't change the core of her key policy proposals so many times that not even her surrogates can keep up. That's Trump.
Clinton didn't do his best to get the Central Park 5 killed, completely bypassing due process. That's Trump. (The turned out to be innocent.)
Clinton isn't the one that paid bribes That's Trump in Florida and texas.
Clinton isn't the one funnelling what money she can back into herself. That's Trump.

Trump hasn't spent her whole life as a public servant, with a long record to show for it. That's Hillary. Trump just has multiple bankruptcies, failed businesses and ruined lives.
Trump isn't the one with a charity that has saved millions that is rated very highly. That is Hillary and Bill.

 

[catsmate]

Beyond that, every presidential candidate since 1972 has released his tax returns, including Pres. Nixon at a time when he was under audit. It is an extraordinary departure from established American practice for Trump to refuse to do so, especially when he himself rebuked Mitt Romney for delaying the release of his returns in 2012. Numerous Republican leaders -- including his buddy Roger Stone and his own VP candidate -- and a majority of Republican voters want to see Trump's returns.

I rather like the Norwegian model.

 

[NoahFence]

Liberalism has a bias toward emotion, the shooting from the hip without information is your clue.

Sure it does kiddo.

Sure it does.

I do note that as is typical you dance around the actual question though.

How are we supposed to know (er... confirm) the truth about Trump without all the information?

 

[NoahFence]

It's not absurd, Trump is an alter boy compared to Clinton. Do you know how many people who have been associated with the Clintons have died? Could be all BS, but it is quite a list.

Uh, no.
Trump is the priest. Everyone in his path is the altar boy.

 

[NoahFence]

Now hold on... You're willing to judge a person based on information you admit could be completely wrong, but you're chastising others here for being suspicious of Trump's financial well-being?

One of the hallmarks of HDS is a tendency toward self-contradictory statements.

 

[NoahFence]

Not for nothing, but you might want to check the people who paid them for "speeches" that donated. Buying influence, is still bad! But hey, I'm a reader!

Not if the money is going to good.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I know it's weird, but I'm less concerned with hundreds of thousands $ received than I am with hundreds of millions $ in debt, especially to foreign interests.

 

[NoahFence]

Yep.
Hey - no problem Vlad. You can have the rest of the Ukraine, all you need to do is forgive my debt.

Sureski!