The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

[fuelair]

All the links I gave you explain examples of other frequencies. Read them; I have no duty to do your homework for you.



The electric universe fellow. Be careful who you associate with. Electric Universe people are NOT your friends.


Make your mind up, Bjarne: Is gravitational lensing a fact or not? You can't have it both ways.



SO, it's OK for YOU to link youtube stuff, but not for me to link to scientific articles? ... Get your act together man! You are a disgrace!

Hans

As to the greened and embiggend, I must disagree!! I am perfectly certain that Bjarne and the EU persons are quite alike in mind and skillsets!!!

 

[Daylightstar]

As to the greened and embiggend, I must disagree!! I am perfectly certain that Bjarne and the EU persons are quite alike in mind and skillsets!!!

Your honorable fellow skeptic, I, unfortunately, must respectfully disagree with your stated similarity in skill set, in that the presentation of the former indicates there to be no skill set whatsoever, apart from pushing buttons on a keyboard .... albeit in a disorderly fashion.

 

[MRC_Hans]

As to the greened and embiggend, I must disagree!! I am perfectly certain that Bjarne and the EU persons are quite alike in mind and skillsets!!!

Nevertheless, their delusions differ fundamentally, so for Bjarne to draw on their arguments is another failure.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

It does, but not discovered because satellits is set on auto pilot, based on measured orbits, not based on calculated orbits

It affects the orbits, now? Not just the time dilation? Welll, the plot thickens...

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

All the links I gave you explain examples of other frequencies. Read them; I have no duty to do your homework for you.

Crap

Make your mind up, Bjarne: Is gravitational lensing a fact or not? You can't have it both ways.

Stretching space will off course have a magnifying effect, but as I said, - extreme bended light or light vanishing into black holes are nothing but superstition and brainwashed obsession.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Crap



Stretching space will off course have a magnifying effect, but as I said, - extreme bended light or light vanishing into black holes are nothing but superstition and brainwashed obsession.

Does gravitational lensing exist, yes or no? Does gravity bend light, yes or no?

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

It affects the orbits, now? Not just the time dilation? Welll, the plot thickens...

Hans

The orbit of ISS is very weak effected, - and I think very unlikely possible to measure, - but time dilation will show significant unexpected anomalies. No doubt about it.

 

[Bjarne]

The orbit of ISS is very weak effected, - and I think very unlikely possible to measure, - but time dilation will show significant unexpected anomalies. No doubt about it.

We have had that discussion many time, my point of view is still the same.

Stretching space will off course have a magnifying effect, but as I said, - extreme bended light or light vanishing into black holes are nothing but superstition and brainwashed obsession..

Whether light really bends I am not sure, it should not surprise me. But it is also possible that it at least in some cases is a vey local and therefore optical transformation phenomena's only.

I mean look at the Sun through a magnifying glass, is the light bended ?
Yes, - BUT only inside the glass, nowhere else. That’s a option too comrade.

I have no reason to believe that former NASA astrophysicist Edward Dowdye not is telling the truth and only the truth,
http://osnetdaily.com/2016/07/former-nasa-physicist-disputes-einsteins-relativity-theory/

A good advise to you, always keep you mind open, if not the risk that you have to look back on your self as a silly naive BW person exist.

 

[The Man]

The orbit of ISS is very weak effected, - and I think very unlikely possible to measure, - but time dilation will show significant unexpected anomalies. No doubt about it.

Once again your claimed effected would be ready apparent in muon observations.


http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/muon.html

http://web.mit.edu/lululiu/Public/pixx/not-pixx/muons.pdf

http://www.hep.ucl.ac.uk/~kordosky/crdet/

http://www.bellarmine.edu/faculty/amahmood/Muon-Poster-NEW-URW2.pdf


http://www.geosci-instrum-method-data-syst.net/1/185/2012/gi-1-185-2012.pdf


Time for you to actually get to work.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: The ignorant citation of a news article as if it were scientific literature

Former NASA Physicist Disputes Einstein’s Relativity Theory.

A case of the blind leading the blind, Bjarne.
6 September 2016 Bjarne: The ignorant citation of a news article as if it were scientific literature.

6 September 2016 Bjarne: The inability to recognize an deluded, relativity denying, creationist: Dr. Edward Dowdye Jr. Dowdye has a rival delusional theory that would say that Bjarne's RR/dark low delusion is wrong !

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Replies to the physics of the real world with BW gibberish

BW

6 September 2016 Bjarne: Replies to the physics of the real world with BW gibberish.

5 September 2016 Bjarne: The delusion that a "overall perspective" exists in the real universe!

It is common in SR examples to have 3 observers, e.g. Alice, Bob and Charles.
Alice will measure that her ruler and clock are invariant.
Bob will measure that his ruler and clock are invariant.
Charles measure that his ruler and clock are invariant.
They will measure that each others rulers and clocks are length contracted and time dilated.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: A "Lie" lie that denies the real world

Lie

6 September 2016 Bjarne: A "Lie" lie that denies the real world.
5 September 2016 Bjarne: Two delusional assertions about observer C - infinitely far away = no measurements possible!; "at rest" = no relativistic effects !

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: Repeats the link to a deluded, ignorant creationist who has a rival delusion

Former NASA Physicist Disputes Einstein’s Relativity Theory

6 September 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the link to a deluded, ignorant creationist who has a rival delusion to the RR/dark flow delusion!

It is still a lie about "no gravitational lensing" because it has been observed .
5 September 2016 Bjarne: A lie about "no gravitational lensing" when gravitational lensing has been observed exactly as predicted by GR: bending of light by the Sun, Einstein rings, etc.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: The delusion that gravitational lensing is "nothing but optical disturbances"

Nothing but speculation, and photos that are nothing but optical disturbances.
No lensing is found in other frequencies.

Nothing but a delusion and ignorance as usual, Bjarne.
6 September 2016 Bjarne: The delusion that gravitational lensing is "nothing but optical disturbances"
Take a gravitational lensed galaxy that looks like a smeared out arc. Apply GR to reverse the lensing and we get an image of a galaxy !
GR predicts that there can be multiple images of galaxies from gravitational lensing. Look at the spectrums of "smeared out arcs" caused by a gravitational lens and the spectrum are identical .

6 September 2016 Bjarne: Gravitational lensing is seen in optical, infrared, radio and x-ray frequencies.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: The abysmal delusion that scientific literature is "BS / BW links"

Try instead to quote one single postulate saying that gravitational lensing is found at other frequencies as visible light... Instead of a load of BS / BW links..

6 September 2016 Bjarne: The abysmal delusion that scientific literature is "BS / BW links" !
General relativity states that all light regardless of frequency is gravitationally lensed. This is really basic - curved spacetime means that all light follows the same path. Even with a delusion of "stretched" spacetime you should agree that gravitational lensing exists and acts the same on the observed infrared, optical, radio and x-ray lenses or those observations are evidence against the RR/dark flow delusion.

A rational person would look at the cited scientific literature and read

• astronomers expect gravitational lensing effects on gamma-ray bursts .
• the six gravitational lenses in the Jodrell Bank-VLA Astrometric Survey sample of 2500 flat-spectrum radio sources brighter than 200 mJy at 5 GHz.
• "We have discovered a new gravitational lens in the Cosmic Lens All-Sky Survey (CLASS)"

6 September 2016 Bjarne: Gravitational lensing is seen in optical, infrared, radio and x-ray frequencies.

The delusions of the former electrical/laser engineer, anti-relativity, electric universe nut and creationist Edward Dowdye are not science.
6 September 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the link to a deluded, ignorant creationist who has a rival delusion to the RR/dark flow delusion!
6 September 2016 Bjarne: The inability to recognize an deluded, relativity denying, creationist: Dr. Edward Dowdye Jr. Dowdye has a rival delusional theory that would say that Bjarne's RR/dark low delusion is wrong !

 

[Reality Check]

I have no reason to believe that former NASA astrophysicist Edward Dowdye not is telling the truth and only the truth,

There is no good reason for you to emphasize your inability to find out how deluded your sources are or to lie about them, Bjarne.
3 August 2016 Bjarne: Cannot understand that a video from a deluded person is not valid science published in the scientific literature!
4 August 2016 Bjarne: The biography of Dr. Edward Henry Dowdye, Jr. at his web site sceinceinthebible as given to you on 1 August 2016!
4 August 2016 Bjarne: An overt lie of no bending for 2R and 3R in Edward Dowdye's YouTube video.
4 August 2016 Bjarne: An implied lie of "1.75 arcsec" at R in Edward Dowdye's YouTube video.
4 August 2016 Bjarne: In 2012, Dowdye was ignorant of measurements of the deflection of the Sun published in 1973 and even the 1919 expedition results!
6 September 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the link to a deluded, ignorant creationist who has a rival delusion to the RR/dark flow delusion!
6 September 2016 Bjarne: The inability to recognize an deluded, relativity denying, creationist: Dr. Edward Dowdye Jr. Dowdye has a rival delusional theory that would say that Bjarne's RR/dark low delusion is wrong !

Edward Dowdye was never a astrophysicist at NASA - he was an electrical engineer according to him !
Edward Dowdye has never punished anything but his own crank book on general relativity so his web page lies - he is a obscure crank talking about "General and Special Relativity, Electromagnetism and Gravitation" with expertise only in electromagnetism.
Edward Dowdye has been stupid enough to speak at least one Electric Universe conference. These are people that even you will agree are real nuts because they believe that Venus erupted out of Jupiter, whizzed around the solar system to explain Biblical myths of the Earth's spin stopping (destroying most life on Earth within recorded history!) and manna from heaven, comets are rocks blasted out of Earth recently, the Grand Canyon was created by electrical discharges, SR is wrong, GR is wrong, stellar physics is wrong, cosmology is wrong, etc. etc. Note the highlights, the SR denial includes what you rely on - the EU nuts think that the Lorentz transformation does not even exist!

 

[Daylightstar]

...
I mean look at the Sun through a magnifying glass, is the light bended ?
Yes, - BUT only inside the glass, nowhere else. That’s a option too comrade.
...

It appears you have no clue whatsoever why gravitational lensing is called that way

Energy density (matter) can curve spacetime in it's vicinity, which' curved spacetime acts similarly to a concave lens, though not in exactly the same way.
Curved spacetime is the lens.

Next time you look through a lens, you will think of curved spacetime

 

[halleyscomet]

The orbit of ISS is very weak effected, - and I think very unlikely possible to measure, - but time dilation will show significant unexpected anomalies. No doubt about it.

Not possible. Any such variances would have impacted the GPS satellite system years ago. Why are you so determined to ignore all the technology that relies upon the theories you think you can challenge?

 

[halleyscomet]

The orbit of ISS is very weak effected, - and I think very unlikely possible to measure, - but time dilation will show significant unexpected anomalies. No doubt about it.

So you have no idea what gravitational lensing is yet you insist it doesn't exist.

Wow.

That's hilarious and kinda sad.

 

[Reality Check]

I mean look at the Sun through a magnifying glass, is the light bended ?

Firstly that is a very bad idea, Bjarne, since you will probably burn your retinas.
Secondly that is lensing, not gravitational lensing ! What knowledgeable people learn is the existence of the bending of light by the Sun which passes by, not through, the Sun, etc.