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Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part IV

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Fine. I am prepared to accept your conditional and choose someone not from the ruling elite. Even then Trump is still a ridiculously awful choice for two reasons.

Even Ladewig knows what the ruling elite are and he's not even a citizen. I'm proud of you Ladewig for being informed!
 
Seriously?

You seriously think Trump is going to have a good working relationship with a man he openly accused of deliberately sending rapists and murderers in the United States and whom he has promised to stick with a 17 to 20 BILLION dollar construction bill?
Yeah seriously, you still refuse to acknowledge the good meeting he had. It's because you don't understand politics.
 
You guys are seriously misinformed if you don't know what the "ruling elite" is.

It is made up of democrats and republicans who are part of the establishment of each respective party.

Trump is part of the business class of elite, not the "ruling elite"

How in the hell do you people not know this?

You know you are not making much sense, given the way the GOP loves the "business elite".
 
Yeah seriously, you still refuse to acknowledge the good meeting he had. It's because you don't understand politics.

Yeah, when the guy you have the meeting with calls you a liar in public the day after that was a really great meeting........

Not everybody hates Hispanics, you know......
 
Another nail in the kinder gentler, more mainstream Donald coffin

It's eye opening the amount of influence Robert Mercer has over Donald's campaign. Bannon, Conway and Bossie are all stooges of his.
 
Even Ladewig knows what the ruling elite are and he's not even a citizen. I'm proud of you Ladewig for being informed!



Actually, I am a second generation American.

I inferred the meaning from your use of the term. That is why when I mentioned G.W.B. I parenthetically noted that he is part of the ruling elite and thus perhaps a bad example to use in my argument.

I was ceding the point to be polite to you. I don't think classifying people in that manner serves much useful purpose.
 
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Actually, I am a second generation American.

I inferred the meaning from your use of the term. That is why when I mentioned G.W.B. I parenthetically noted that he is part of the ruling elite and thus perhaps a bad example to use in my argument.

That there is a huge overlap between the "Business Class Elites" and the "GOP Elites" seems to have passed logger by......
 
It's eye opening the amount of influence Robert Mercer has over Donald's campaign. Bannon, Conway and Bossie are all stooges of his.

It also explains why after attacking Hedge Fund managers early in his campaign as part of his "Anti Wall Street Populist" shtick,Donald has shut up about them.
 
Quite a few of the Trumpetts over at Politico are now threatening HIspanic American Citizens to shut up about Donald and Immigrtation or they will be throw out also....nice.
A Final Solution To the Hispanic Problem......
 
That there is a huge overlap between the "Business Class Elites" and the "GOP Elites" seems to have passed logger by......

Funny, how many libs claim Hillary is cozy with business and Wall Street?

Did that pass you by, looks like it. Question is why is it so hard for you leftists to recognize our ruling elite? It's been the same folks for many years. Trump isn't one, your clue being he is hated by both establishment parties.
 
Quite a few of the Trumpetts over at Politico are now threatening HIspanic American Citizens to shut up about Donald and Immigrtation or they will be throw out also....nice.
A Final Solution To the Hispanic Problem......
Lol

Deporting people who broke our laws is compared to the final solution? Hilarious!
 
Lol

Deporting people who broke our laws is compared to the final solution? Hilarious!

Dudalb was referring to the threat of deportation of American citizens of hispanic origin that don't kowtow to Trump's racist policies. You know, unconstitutional punishment for a crime of opinion.
 
Unauthorized workers are paying an estimated $13 billion a year in social security taxes and only getting around $1 billion back, according to a senior government statistician.

Stephen Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration (SSA), told VICE News that an estimated 7 million people are currently working in the US illegally. Of those, he estimates that about 3.1 million are using fake or expired social security numbers, yet also paying automatic payroll taxes. Goss believes that these workers pay an annual net contribution of $12 billion to the Social Security Trust Fund. Link

Another irony was pointed out by an economist in an article I read some years ago. In fact it might be so far back as to have been during the Bush Administration. Anyway, he was asked, does the money sent back to Mexico and Central American countries by workers in the U.S., many of whom are undocumented, does this outflow harm the U.S. economy. The economist said there was no evidence it had much affect. Then he added an interesting point.

That the U.S. government spends a significant chunk of cash on foreign aid, some of which is granted to poverty-stricken nations for programs to alleviate the worst human suffering due to extreme poverty. He said it is often conceded that a sizeable percentage of the aid dollars are consumed by administrative costs and never reach the intended recipients. Some is undoubtedly siphoned off by crooked local government officials too.

He pointed out that, ironically, what we know about how money sent home by undocumented workers is spent, almost all of it is used for the very things our foreign aid is supposed to accomplish: better housing, better sanitation, electricity, access to health care, aid to children in poverty. That in a sense, allowing undocumented workers to work in the U.S. -- or at least making apprehending and deporting them a low priority -- enables what is essentially a very targeted foreign aid program. That dollars sent home by illegal workers is probably much more effective in battling extreme poverty -- on a family-by-family basis -- than government aid programs.
 
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You guys are seriously misinformed if you don't know what the "ruling elite" is.

It is made up of democrats and republicans who are part of the establishment of each respective party.

Trump is part of the business class of elite, not the "ruling elite"

How in the hell do you people not know this?

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Trump is the Republican party nominee. You couldn't be more a part of the "ruling elite" than that.

I'd support him in a minute if he only had a brain and a modicum of sense. He doesn't treat people with respect. Not women, not minorities, not the poor and not anyone that disagrees with him.

I have asked you multiples of times what criteria did you use to declare that Obama was a failed President. And what makes Trump good? And I have heard crickets. Tell us specifically, if you can.
 
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