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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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HDenier said:
Apparently that front page news articles that says "Judea declare war on Germany" was a code...lol probably like the sign over Auschwitz, "Work will set you Free" all code words to mean something else to fool all of us who read English....

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You didn't answer my question, how is a boycott a declaration of war?

While you are at it, why don't you tell me how many tanks, airplanes and troops "Judea" had in 1933.
 
HDenier said:
They BUTCHERED THE GERMANS...
http://www.thefuhrerbunker.com/WWII.htm

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Focus on what I am saying:

The link you provided only mentions ethnic Germans killed AFTER the invasion. The Germans invaded Poland on September 1st, 1939. The article only mentions people killed AFTER September 1st. You cannot claim that Hitler invaded Poland to stop the massacres of ethnic Germans if this does happen until after the invasion starts.
You need to provide proof that the Poles murdered ethnic Germans before September 1st in order to say that Hitler invaded Poland to stop the massacre of ethnic Germans.
 
HDenier said:
Ya, you are right, it was made out of bullet proof glass and Kevlar. Stupid me..

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So, apparently you are aware that different types of glass exist, plus there may be reinforced glass. Which type was the glass in question?


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Degeneve said:
This is complete non sense...
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My point, the words written over Auschwitz and in the newspaper meant what they meant. Work sets one free at Auschwitz, people were released, "Judea declared war on Germany" was an economic war. The Jews used others to physically fight their real war....

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Degeneve said:
Only after German provocations took place. Some Germans in Bydgoszcz (probably with help or inspired by agent of a German fith column) got the "brilliant" to open fire on element of the Polish army retreating.

Some of them got killed by the population in retaliation. Goebbels propangada grossly exagerated the number of the victims.

However this happened after the beginning of the invasion of Poland by the nazis and can in no case be regarded as a justification of this invasion, what you have tried to do earlier.
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They again were butchered, stop making excuses....

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Matthew Ellard said:
This is a continuation from here due to the length of the previous thread. As always, all Holocaust-related discussion should be confined to this thread. Thank you.
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Mondail? This article is about the misidentification of the tiles, on screen, in the documentary by one person, Ivar Schute. You are already very aware the tiles were correctly identified prior to this on the Staffordshire University's "preliminary report". Why did you say this proves the old gas chamber isn't the old gas chamber?


Modail? Can you walk us through and specify exactly where in Eric Hunt's propaganda film he calculates 10,000 people transited through Treblinka II. You have been reading Eric's interesting posts on CODOH? No?




Where do you think Eric got his "10,000" figure from? Why can't he explain this to the other holocaust deniers who are now questioning his "adding up"?
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The issue being sidetracked as always is the 750,000 bodies that aren't there. Thus the Treblinka story is nonsense and Gringuaz would be proud....

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LemmyCaution said:
Exactly, and judging from HDenier's last post on this he would like to make an exception for - vigorously applaud? - German war crimes and crimes against humanity in the East, committed against the civilian population of the Soviet Union and countries it had occupied and incorporated, as well as against soldiers from the Soviet Union - on account of the USSR being ruled by Stalinists. This reasoning mirrors that of the Nazi leadership. Here is where the IMT was spot on in finding guilty verdicts against leading perpetrators of these crimes.
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The Nuremberg trials was a farce. It was the lowest part of judicial criminality the world has seen in a long time. I would suggest you all get the FREE e-book "Nuremberg or The Promised land" by Maurice Bardèche, This guy had to fight jail time by the same people that like to ban holocaust free speech. Why must a person go to jail for writing a book? Makes no sense to me unless those he is writing against are truly guilty of hiding criminality and injustice. The Nuremberg trials was all of that and this guy exposed it. Good for him.

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HDenier said:
Apparently your stoy is total fact...not
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Degeneve and I have given you sourced explanations for why what we tell you is the case. Simply saying "not" doesn't refute the evidence we've presented. What is your evidence that we're wrong about the reconstructed gas chamber?
 
HDenier said:
My point, the words written over Auschwitz and in the newspaper meant what they meant. Work sets one free at Auschwitz, people were released, "Judea declared war on Germany" was an economic war. The Jews used others to physically fight their real war....

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Are you aware that many Jews, including the main Jewish organizations in Nazi Germany during 1933-1934, disapproved the boycott, which was supported by both Jewish and non-Jewish groups in some countries? And in those countries, for example, the US, major Jewish organizations agreed with German Jews and tried to stop the boycott?

Given this, how do you get to "The Jews used others to physically fight their real war," especially when the "real war" was initiated not until 6 years later - and by Nazi Germany?
 
HDenier said:
The issue being sidetracked as always is the 750,000 bodies that aren't there. Thus the Treblinka story is nonsense and Gringuaz would be proud....
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You have been told a number of times that the bodies were cremated at the site. You've been given links to a detailed description of how this was done. Yet you continue saying that the bodies "aren't there" without dealing with the information you've been given.
 
HDenier said:
My point, the words written over Auschwitz and in the newspaper meant what they meant. Work sets one free at Auschwitz, people were released, "Judea declared war on Germany" was an economic war. The Jews used others to physically fight their real war....
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Please provide evidence of the Germans releasing any Jewish, Romani, or homosexual prisoners from Auschwitz.
 
HDenier said:
The Nuremberg trials was a farce. It was the lowest part of judicial criminality the world has seen in a long time. I would suggest you all get the FREE e-book "Nuremberg or The Promised land" by Maurice Bardèche, This guy had to fight jail time by the same people that like to ban holocaust free speech. Why must a person go to jail for writing a book? Makes no sense to me unless those he is writing against are truly guilty of hiding criminality and injustice. The Nuremberg trials was all of that and this guy exposed it. Good for him.
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Anti-HD laws and the IMT are unrelated. Your post merely claims that the trial was a farce and low - you explain nothing and provide nothing to substantiate your claim.

But my post was about this: The discussion was about German war crimes, and you had posted that "The Germans were fighting Communism, the ones that killed what, tens of millions in the annals of time. I suppose you were on the side of those Russian butchers?"

My reply is that you are trying to make an exception for German war crimes and crimes against humanity in the East, committed against the civilian population of the Soviet Union and countries it had occupied and incorporated, as well as against soldiers from the Soviet Union - on account of the USSR being ruled by Stalinists. By giving us your views of the IMT, you have avoided discussing these German crimes against civilians and prisoners.
 
HDenier said:
The issue being sidetracked as always is the 750,000 bodies that aren't there. Thus the Treblinka story is nonsense and Gringuaz would be proud.
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No the Treblinka victims were still there. Tell me where the bodies came from, to make this pile of (forensically confirmed) human ash that covered 20,000 square metres, at Treblinka?
 

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HDenier said:
They again were butchered, stop making excuses....

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I do not make excuses, I relate historical facts, which is one thing you are unable to do and try to answer to the questions I raised.

These ethnic Germans where killed after the invasion of Poland by Germany had begun.
 
HDenier said:
The issue being sidetracked as always is the 750,000 bodies that aren't there. Thus the Treblinka story is nonsense and Gringuaz would be proud....

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You know very well why the 750,000 aren't there. They have been burned.
 
HDenier said:
The Nuremberg trials was a farce. It was the lowest part of judicial criminality the world has seen in a long time. I would suggest you all get the FREE e-book "Nuremberg or The Promised land" by Maurice Bardèche, This guy had to fight jail time by the same people that like to ban holocaust free speech. Why must a person go to jail for writing a book? Makes no sense to me unless those he is writing against are truly guilty of hiding criminality and injustice. The Nuremberg trials was all of that and this guy exposed it. Good for him.

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Bardèche was an apologist and hagipographer of the nazi regime. Furthermore his books are full of factual inaccuracies.

This guy has no credit at all outside the deniers circles.
 
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