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Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

kookbreaker said:
Be funny if it just turns out to be an extended version of That Mitchel & Webb sketch.
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It has to include some of it as they DID fire a whole bunch of bloody big rockets off into the sky, so did the Soviets.
 
This post just appeared on a board I am on, someone has written a book claiming to have 'proof' that the Soviets bankrolled the Moon Hoax movement.

This I find very hard to believe, after all stating that they were never in the race at all turned out to be a very effective tactic for destroying the US manned program, not that they ever fully realized that's what they'd done...

German Spaceflight expert Bernd Leitenberger was ask by a German translator to check 26 page about Moon Hoax in 2015 the former KGB officer Sergej Bukowski publish his memories in Russia. In 700 page book are 26 page about the Moon Race and his program to discredit it !
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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/for...HPSESSID=uelritgpbve5h5ak3kc6c06v40#msg287957
 
What affect on the real world did the Moon Hoax believers actually have?
 
Trebuchet said:
In addition to the awesome Aldrin punch, it's given JayUtah something to do with his free time for quite a while now.
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That's true. However, I suspect that beside providing humor to many, irritation to sensitive scientists and provide a hobby for debunkers it in fact had no real impact on anything?
 
Hans said:
That's true. However, I suspect that beside providing humor to many, irritation to sensitive scientists and provide a hobby for debunkers it in fact had no real impact on anything?
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Unquestionably correct.

About 25 years ago, I actually bothered to have a look at the claims made by hoaxers and they required a level of stupidity to buy any one piece of "evidence" that I figured it was all a piss-take.

Nobody with any authority in any area of human existence would buy a bar of it. It's a joke, or toy for trolls. Flat earthers only.
 
The Atheist said:
Unquestionably correct.

About 25 years ago, I actually bothered to have a look at the claims made by hoaxers and they required a level of stupidity to buy any one piece of "evidence" that I figured it was all a piss-take.

Nobody with any authority in any area of human existence would buy a bar of it. It's a joke, or toy for trolls. Flat earthers only.
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Ironically, flat-earthers are becoming more and more common among the Apollo hoax crowd, much to the consternation of those CTs who think that they're being scientific. But from what I've seen, most of the hard-core hoax-nuts are driven by a narcissistic need to believe that they know some great secret that most everyone else is too stupid to see. That's why they often get so hostile when you point out their errors. Their self-esteem is largely dependent on that belief and to them you're attacking their egos directly. Their claims are a way of saying "you're stupid and I'm smart". When people say to them, "that's not true", they hear, " you're stupid".
 
Foster Zygote said:
But from what I've seen, most of the hard-core hoax-nuts are driven by a narcissistic need to believe that they know some great secret that most everyone else is too stupid to see.
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I'm pretty sure that applies to all CT, as well as religion.

It makes them feel special.
 
Argumemnon said:
Never been on an airplane at 40,000ft have they? Or on a boat at sea?
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Let me see...

The windows on aircraft are intentionally designed to be a form of fisheye lens.

Ships seeming to pass over the horizon is an optical illusion.

If one is prepared to indulge the irrational, then it is simply another irrational notion to pile on the heap.

Personally, I am convinced that most flat earthers don't actually believe a word of it, it simply garners them attention.
 
Personally, what I get out of the Apollo Hoax nonsense is some amazing trivia about the details of how things worked.

It's almost as much fun as talking to a museum docent who flew the plane you're looking at.
 
abaddon said:
Let me see...

The windows on aircraft are intentionally designed to be a form of fisheye lens.

Ships seeming to pass over the horizon is an optical illusion.

If one is prepared to indulge the irrational, then it is simply another irrational notion to pile on the heap.

Personally, I am convinced that most flat earthers don't actually believe a word of it, it simply garners them attention.
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I generally lose them when I bring up celestial navigation or great circle routes. They all seem to work off the same prepared script.
 
LSSBB said:
I generally lose them when I bring up celestial navigation or great circle routes. They all seem to work off the same prepared script.
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I always like the part about being able to see a slightly different view of the Moon from way south verses way north.
 
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