General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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Hans said:
So you avoided my question yet again, three times so far, it would seem you are deeply ashamed an unable to address the Nazis killing millions of other people who weren't Jews - why is that?
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Are you going to keep running? lol

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I do have questions like why do the deniers ignore all the non Jews killed by the Nazis?

Soviet civilians: around 7 million (including 1.3 Soviet Jewish civilians, who are included in the 6 million figure for Jews)

Soviet prisoners of war: around 3 million (including about 50,000 Jewish soldiers)

Non-Jewish Polish civilians: around 1.8 million (including between 50,000 and 100,000 members of the Polish elites)

Serb civilians (on the territory of Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina): 312,000

People with disabilities living in institutions: up to 250,000

Roma (Gypsies): 196,000–220,000

Jehovah's Witnesses: Around 1,900

Repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials: at least 70,000

German political opponents and resistance activists in Axis-occupied territory: undetermined

Homosexuals: hundreds, possibly thousands (possibly also counted in part under the 70,000 repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials noted above)

Why do these people not matter to the deniers?

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article...uleId=10008193
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The self-proclaimed denier cannot answer the question THEY asked for....I guess they cannot find someone's answer they can cut and paste in.

Tsk tsk.
 
HDenier said:
What's your point?

Even though Gringuaz believed his bewildering massacres, his statement that I quote is holohoax gold....He exposed the Jews for their exaggerations and ability to blow up small issues to larger ones. His quote is an embarrassment to all you holohoaxters even in context..anytime you have a witness telling their story member Gringuaz quote...what an embarrassment again for you hoaxers.

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Gringauz was a Holocaust survivor who explicitly recounted details of mass murder himself, with his own pen. Your incessant quoting of him is the act of digging your own proverbial grave as far as this incredibly lopsided argument is concerned.
 
HDenier said:
Actually I now know what Majanek is. I watched Eric Hunts great video exposing the lies the propagandist showed when they filmed their version of the myths and lies of Majanek..
Here is a link to his video.

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1010&play=130#watch

I think it is odd that a water well lies right in the middle of this place. Doesn't seem to be a place to put one if people are going to be murdered by the carloads and their body fluids flowing everywhere...
So obviously that tells me Majanek wasn't a death camp as the usual players here want you to believe...
Another holohoax thrown upon the public using staged video production and camera angles that actually hide the true layout of the place....while hiding light coming in from copious window openings and a sink made to save lives and disinfect persons. The holohoaxers did the same thing when they did their laughable Treblinka video. Used darken video and music to get everybody in the kill all the Germans mode after they see the film....Of course now the hoaxters try to show a paper saying people were shot there, OK, they were shot, but they tell don't tell you WHY they were shot but ASSUME why they were shot...Nice science....Nobody has figured out their may be a darn good reason why these people were shot....Then they give the nonsense story they were shot to hide the murders....complete nonsense.But this is what we expect from the holohoaxters....keep it coming and more of us will keep exposing the lies. Eric Hunt does a great job doing it.....

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So what exactly is your opinion of Blessed Roman Archutowski and Blessed Emilian Kowcz?

What was it you were claiming about christians not harming fellow christians?
 
LeoMajor said:
Gringauz was a Holocaust survivor who explicitly recounted details of mass murder himself, with his own pen. Your incessant quoting of him is the act of digging your own proverbial grave as far as this incredibly lopsided argument is concerned.
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They were greatly embarrassed by their failure of research which does occur when you never check sources. They keep trying to recover from that by putting up a brave face and senseless bravado.

However, this just makes their error even more amusing.

Yeah like I said before I do hope they keep using that quote because it's an excellent way to proclaim to the world, 'I don't check sources' and 'ain't no scholar here'.
 
LSSBB said:
Private organizations have no obligation to provide you a platform for your unevidenced claim of a hoax.
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The contract with one provider says they are not to CENSOR...That would mean that my opinions should not be stopped. But these people violate their own rules and CENSOR. I would NEVER CENSOR ANYBODY form their views. If their views are lies then I expose them....You hoaxters seem to like to censor free thought and get a joy out of it. The Bible makes a great point about how evil people censor. It's one thing for one not to read someones views, it is ANOTHER thing to STOP OTHERS from reading your views, that was brought out in the Bible at Luke 11:52. That is the sin of you who want to stop knowledge and free thought. The Jews are on a war path with truth now. They make every attempt to squash ANYTHING that goes contrary to the Jewish view of history. I have experienced it in my town, on Facebook, here in this forum with my local newspaper and on cable TV.. It's just something that goes with the territory. But for you people to gloat over peoples right to free speech being suspended or censored from forums you are really in need to read Luke 11:52...

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HDenier said:
The contract with one provider says they are not to CENSOR...That would mean that my opinions should not be stopped. But these people violate their own rules and CENSOR. I would NEVER CENSOR ANYBODY form their views. If their views are lies then I expose them....You hoaxters seem to like to censor free thought and get a joy out of it. The Bible makes a great point about how evil people censor. It's one thing for one not to read someones views, it is ANOTHER thing to STOP OTHERS from reading your views, that was brought out in the Bible at Luke 11:52. That is the sin of you who want to stop knowledge and free thought. The Jews are on a war path with truth now. They make every attempt to squash ANYTHING that goes contrary to the Jewish view of history. I have experienced it in my town, on Facebook, here in this forum with my local newspaper and on cable TV.. It's just something that goes with the territory. But for you people to gloat over peoples right to free speech being suspended or censored from forums you are really in need to read Luke 11:52...

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The bible is poorly written and primitive fiction. You cannot expect such a basis for argument to be taken seriously.

And since you wheel out contextually bereft bible quotes as some sort of evidence for...something, why are you not skeptical of the bible as a source?
 
LeoMajor said:
Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka were located in the Generalgovernment area of occupied Poland. They were staffed by former T4 personnel and were commissioned for the sole purpose of killing Jews. These are the facts.
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Keep dreaming..

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LeoMajor said:
You have yet to respond to my question on the cremation capacity of Auschwitz II and it`s utter incompatibility with any supposed fear of `epidemics`. Most KL`s that braced for outbreaks of diseases had cremation capacities 29 times lower than that of Auschwitz-II.
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People died at Auschwitz, knowing the capacity proves what again? oh that people died. How about this one, if Auschwitz was a Death camp why did they have urns for the dead? Doesn't make any sense.
https://framgovfreed.onlinegroups.net/groups/framgovfeed/messages/topic/Z4rF63nq6349AWpNUXYVb

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Hans said:
Are you going to keep running? lol

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The self-proclaimed denier cannot answer the question THEY asked for....I guess they cannot find someone's answer they can cut and paste in.

Tsk tsk.
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Just keep adding those zeroes...What's your point? You or I can't prove those figures. That is what they show you. They could be true or like the rest of the holohoax narrative as Gringuaz said:

"preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic *effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks…”

I tend to believe Gringuaz, he's the man.....

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HDenier said:
Actually I now know what Majanek is. I watched Eric Hunts great video exposing the lies the propagandist showed when they filmed their version of the myths and lies of Majanek..
Here is a link to his video.

http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1010&play=130#watch

I think it is odd that a water well lies right in the middle of this place. Doesn't seem to be a place to put one if people are going to be murdered by the carloads and their body fluids flowing everywhere...
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There must not have been much body fluids as the corpses were burned. Furthermore is there any information saying that this water weel was used to provide dinking water ?
 
LeoMajor said:
Gringauz was a Holocaust survivor who explicitly recounted details of mass murder himself, with his own pen. Your incessant quoting of him is the act of digging your own proverbial grave as far as this incredibly lopsided argument is concerned.
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No, not really, his opinions expressed an honest appraisal of how holocaust lies come about when people are too close to the action. His viewpoints are 100% accurate in light of my research done on False Memory.

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abaddon said:
So what exactly is your opinion of Blessed Roman Archutowski and Blessed Emilian Kowcz?

What was it you were claiming about christians not harming fellow christians?
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Something tells me I used the term "true Christians" no? I already told you most of Christianity to me is apostate, wrong so saying "Christian" to me means nothing because their actions and evil are no different that the Jews....

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Hans said:
They were greatly embarrassed by their failure of research which does occur when you never check sources. They keep trying to recover from that by putting up a brave face and senseless bravado.

However, this just makes their error even more amusing.

Yeah like I said before I do hope they keep using that quote because it's an excellent way to proclaim to the world, 'I don't check sources' and 'ain't no scholar here'.
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No actually it says Gringuaz was totally right as to individuals and their viewpoint on supposed evils done to them and you are mad as hell because his words prove my point...

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abaddon said:
The bible is poorly written and primitive fiction. You cannot expect such a basis for argument to be taken seriously.

And since you wheel out contextually bereft bible quotes as some sort of evidence for...something, why are you not skeptical of the bible as a source?
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First of all look at the quote please? It's making a point, the words could have been written by someone else even. you have a right o not agree with me. BUT, you don't have a right to stop others on their free will to agree with me. That's the point....
These forums sometimes gang up and gloat when someone they have a problem with is banned or when other avenues of internet free speech banned some people's opinions. I would NEVER, NEVER, gloat over you being banned from this forum or any forum. That is how much I believe in free thought. If you have something I disagree with I will disprove you. If I wanted you banned then I have lost the power to debate, which seems a lot of you may be heading towards....
When people like Scientology or other cults try to ban books on AMAZON then I know those groups are evil. If you do the same here but to thoughts then you are no better than these cults. So if I was off this list would you gloat, do some hi fives? You probably would.

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HDenier said:
The contract with one provider says they are not to CENSOR...That would mean that my opinions should not be stopped. But these people violate their own rules and CENSOR. I would NEVER CENSOR ANYBODY form their views. If their views are lies then I expose them....You hoaxters seem to like to censor free thought and get a joy out of it. The Bible makes a great point about how evil people censor. It's one thing for one not to read someones views, it is ANOTHER thing to STOP OTHERS from reading your views, that was brought out in the Bible at Luke 11:52. That is the sin of you who want to stop knowledge and free thought. The Jews are on a war path with truth now. They make every attempt to squash ANYTHING that goes contrary to the Jewish view of history. I have experienced it in my town, on Facebook, here in this forum with my local newspaper and on cable TV.. It's just something that goes with the territory. But for you people to gloat over peoples right to free speech being suspended or censored from forums you are really in need to read Luke 11:52...

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Matthew 7:5
 
Degeneve said:
How many German civilians had been killed in May 1940 by the Allied forces? Just curious to know what your figures are, assuming you have some figures to provide...
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A lot....The allies took vengeance on the Germans first. It was known that in the civility of war NO CIVILIANS would be bombed. That didn't happen with the Germans. The allies BOMBED civilians in Germany FIRST. Germany sat back and had a lot of patience and then when enough was enough Germany retaliated. YOU and other misinformed historians ONLY look at the retaliation of Germany and make the whole world think the Germans were the monsters. Nice try....Remember history is told by the ones that won. The Jews declared WAR on Germany on March 24, 1933. Germany had a lot of patience with the Jews, Britain and the other world powers.


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Degeneve said:
Reading that McCarthy had some ethics is probabley one of the weirdest statements I have read in my life.

Assuming the Germans defended by McCarthy were not guilty of the murder in cold blood of more than 70 American POWs, who then was guilty of this.



Joe McCarthy's life is a total failure.



Comparing McCarty to John Adams is an offence to John Adams... McCarthy does by far not compete in the same league.
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The point was McCarthy took a case that would not make him popular because he defended Germans. Some people have a sense of ethics and McCarthy did.
John Adams did also. Obviously your information on McCarthy is very scant, do your homework....I don't want to embarrass you.....
Jim Trafficant was another man of integrity, he defended a man falsy accused of being a German guard that the Jews were out for blood to get. Trafficant basically destroyed his political career because the Jews, as always, came after him viciously....They like to do that. The Jews have no conscience towards being reputable and honorable sometimes. They'll defend murderers like Leo Frank, Jew, or spy's like Jonathan Pollard, scumbags to say the least. The Jews defended these people big time, even making Jonathan Pollard a hero in Israel. Of course he was responsible for probably hundreds of American agents deaths...Thank you Jews... I know I know, Trafficant went to jail...so did the Apostle Paul....

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