General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

[LemmyCaution]

Who is the we? You got a little conspiracy going on here?

I've got the ability to read the thread - and I've noticed a lot of people besides me posting evidence of the German massacres of Jews: thus, "we."

People agreeing with one another is hardly "a little conspiracy,"

Your aim is always defending the Holocaust narrative.

Which Holocaust narrative? There are many different narratives of these events.

 

[LeoMajor]

Who are the us then?

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Everyone here.

 

[LemmyCaution]

. . . Churchill, Eisenhower, and de Gaulle never spoke about it, either, how odd. . . .

It had to happen.

 

[LeoMajor]

Obviously you have the wrong opinion about why the camps created. They were supposed to be for rehabilitation. People actually could leave the camps and it's on record that people did so for you to say that people were murdered on an industrial scale is just nonsense propaganda Jewish propaganda.

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LOL. You do realize that there is a difference between the KL's and the Death Camps right??

One question:

Who was Odilo Globocnik?

 

[Hans]

None are so blind as those who refuse to see none are as hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free none are so deaf as those who refuse to hear
The truth that refutes their dogma and the lies that they hold so dear none are so craven as those who hide from the truth and nothing is worse than a coward who teaches propaganda and lies to our youth

I would recommend that you follow your own advice.

 

[LeoMajor]

It had to happen.

This is 80's denier crap. I feel like rolling up to the thread in a Trans Am blasting "Cherry Pie" by Warrant wearing a denim jacket.

 

[LemmyCaution]

No, bombing the hell out of these areas had nothing to do with people's health.....oh please

None are so blind as those who refuse to see none are as hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free none are so deaf as those who refuse to hear
The truth that refutes their dogma and the lies that they hold so dear none are so craven as those who hide from the truth and nothing is worse than a coward who teaches propaganda and lies to our youth


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Your comprehension of what is posted in this forum is negligible.

Your caps lock is stuck. You might want to take a look at it.

 

[LeoMajor]

No, bombing the hell out of these areas had nothing to do with people's health.....oh please

None are so blind as those who refuse to see none are as hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free none are so deaf as those who refuse to hear
The truth that refutes their dogma and the lies that they hold so dear none are so craven as those who hide from the truth and nothing is worse than a coward who teaches propaganda and lies to our youth


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I think you know the truth now and merely refuse to see it....

 

[LemmyCaution]

I replied to it. Apparently bombing these areas to hell didn't cause any problems in people's health...what nonsense.

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LOL, yeah . . . now. Repeating the same answer in two consecutive posts doesn't turn silliness into something useful.

 

[HDenier]

More holohoax lies being exposed..Revisionist don't sell lies, the holohoax people do it all the time

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/nazi-soap-contains-no-human-remains-1.968045






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[LemmyCaution]

. . . if you don t like my answer then too bad....

Ok . . . but you didn't answer my question, just dodged it again.

The gas chamber story has been debunked here.

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/FaurisArch/RF981020.html

"The reason for this lack of any mention is that, after investigation, the Allies reckoned, from 1943 onwards, that there existed no satisfactory evidence to substantiate public claims that execution gas chambers did indeed exist:*"There is insufficient evidence to justify the statement regarding execution in gas chambers*(1)".

There goes your holohoax.

Sorry, nothing was "debunked" here; you simply quoted an unsupported claim.

“Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust”

Anyone posting in this forum, for example, may in fact question whatever he or she wishes to question, including about the Holocaust. This is basically hyperbolic nonsense.

 

[HDenier]

LOL, yeah . . . now. Repeating the same answer in two consecutive posts doesn't turn silliness into something useful.

The bombings didn't cause any problems for these camps or the people in them Lemmy? Yes or no?

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[Ivanesca]

. . . Churchill, Eisenhower, and de Gaulle never spoke about it, either, how odd. . . .]It had to happen.

It had to happen.

Churchill and Eisenhower did speak about it. Eisenhower gave a very famous and oft quoted speech at Ohrdruf IIRC. HDenier doesn't know history.

 

[HDenier]

Ok . . . I don't really think you even answered.



Sorry, nothing was "debunked" here; you simply quoted an unsupported claim.


Anyone posting in this forum, for example, may in fact question whatever he or she wishes to question, including about the Holocaust. This is basically hyperbolic nonsense.

Do you question any part of the holocaust narrative Lemmy?, if not then why are you on this skeptics list?

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[LemmyCaution]

The bombings didn't cause any problems for these camps or the people in them Lemmy? Yes or no?

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Let me repeat: you do not understand what you read. Nor do you seem to understand chronology. I see you want to change the topic from feeding methods at liberation. What I replied to was this: "A good example of this is when the Americans came into these concentration camps they inadvertently fed all these people and what happened is the people's bodies couldn't absorb the food and a lot of these people died within days."

Let's deal with food first. In the light of these death toll statistics for the case of Bergen-Belsen:

Deaths in all of 1943-1944: 3,100
Deaths in January 1945: around 1,200
Deaths in February 1945: around 6,400 (typhus epidemic)
Deaths in March 1945: at least 18,168
Deaths in April 1945: around 10,000

You do know when the camp was liberated, don't you?

 

[LemmyCaution]

Churchill and Eisenhower did speak about it. Eisenhower gave a very famous and oft quoted speech at Ohrdruf IIRC. HDenier doesn't know history.

Churchill too, of course. HDenier can't even quote denier dishonesty correctly.

 

[Hans]

Do you question any part of the holocaust narrative Lemmy?, if not then why are you on this skeptics list?

What do you question?....

I do have questions like why do the deniers ignore all the non Jews killed by the Nazis?

Soviet civilians: around 7 million (including 1.3 Soviet Jewish civilians, who are included in the 6 million figure for Jews)

Soviet prisoners of war: around 3 million (including about 50,000 Jewish soldiers)

Non-Jewish Polish civilians: around 1.8 million (including between 50,000 and 100,000 members of the Polish elites)

Serb civilians (on the territory of Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina): 312,000

People with disabilities living in institutions: up to 250,000

Roma (Gypsies): 196,000–220,000

Jehovah's Witnesses: Around 1,900

Repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials: at least 70,000

German political opponents and resistance activists in Axis-occupied territory: undetermined

Homosexuals: hundreds, possibly thousands (possibly also counted in part under the 70,000 repeat criminal offenders and so-called asocials noted above)

Why do these people not matter to the deniers?

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10008193

 

[Jeffk 1970]

Do you question any part of the holocaust narrative Lemmy?, if not then why are you on this skeptics list?

What do you question?....

You have an agenda and that is to protect the Jewish Holocaust hoax narrative. ALL OF IT DOWN TO MOLECULES..
Just admit it. You are a shill...you're not a skeptic...... you're just here to bury the lies and you doing a great job

Some great quotes here for you Lemmy....enjoy....send the link to your Israeli handelers..

http://12bytes.org/articles/history...ndex/rescuing-israel-the-holocaust-the-quotes

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HD, I wrote this today at the Skeptics Forum:


"So, I came back to my original thought. How could something like the Holocaust be faked?

Well, first of all you needed the compliance and agreement of the major powers of the Second World War, the US, Great Britain and the Soviet Union. Not only that you needed the compliance of secondary powers like France and Poland. Poland is particularly important because the deportations of the Jews there was hardly a secret. This agreement needed to be iron clad to the point it could survive any shifts in the political landscape.

Next, you needed to fake thousands of documents with corresponding copies available on both sides of the Iron Curtain. This also included making or altering records of both civilian and military authorities so that they matched and corroborated each other. This meant that any original German documents contradicting these fakes needed to be tracked down and destroyed or altered in their turn to avoid future historians from discovering the truth. <snip>

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I can't get any of the "revisionist" residents to discuss this with me. What are your thoughts?

 

[LemmyCaution]

Do you question any part of the holocaust narrative Lemmy?, if not then why are you on this skeptics list?

Of course I have questioned parts of some narratives of the Holocaust. I reject a number of them. Why do you imagine otherwise?

You have an agenda and that is to protect the Jewish Holocaust hoax narrative.

I don't even know what "the Jewish Holocaust hoax narrative" is. You would have to tell me and then I can tell you if I agree with it.

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[Jeffk 1970]

I'd like to share something from the link that HD gave us:

“I was in the big concentration camps in Germany. I must truthfully state that in no camp have I ever seen anything that might have resembled gas chambers.” — Dr. Benedikt Kautsky, Jewish prisoner of Auschwitz from 1938-1945, Did Six Million Really Die? p. 382"

Here's the fascinating bit:
"Jewish prisoner of Auschwitz from 1938-1945"

I believe that we have true historical revisionism here. I did not know that the Poles opened Auschwitz in 1938.