Dubai Address hotel fire

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Who did the models? Do they agree with experiment?

Yes.

 

[beachnut]

Failed analogy strikes again

Do you remember TWA 800? They knew the plane crashed, right? Did they stop the investigation after they knew it crashed? No. They found every single piece they could and they put the plane back together the best they could. Only then were they able to determine what really happened. ,,,

lol, what a failed analogy - they did not know why it crashed - we know why the WTC collapse continued, but you can't figure it out after 14 years. Bad analogy, is based on lack of knowledge, or what?
Another failed analogy.
In aircraft accident investigation the plane is only put together to look for the cause. If it was on purpose, we don't put the plane back together, it is a crime and the NTSB does not do crime, they do accidents.

911 was not an accident, we know why the WTC collapse, it was fire.

I can't believe how bad this analogy is, or why you made it; big fail.

You have no clue what NIST's goals were, and it shows.

 

[Spanx]

What you're asking is for someone to explain an engineering report to you.

It would appear that way, but he only wants to hear from some one who is not qualified.

I would say YouTube and AE911 truth would be a good starting point, although judging by what he has said so far I would guess that is where he is at.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Do you remember TWA 800? They knew the plane crashed, right? Did they stop the investigation after they knew it crashed? No. They found every single piece they could and they put the plane back together the best they could. Only then were they able to determine what really happened.

Did they ship the pieces to China to be melted for scrap before the investigation started? No.
Did they test for explosives. Yes.
Did they listen to eyewitness testimony? Yes.

Do you see a difference? I certainly do.

Are you claiming the steel from the WTC buildings wasn't examined before it was scrapped?

Why would they test for explosives when the cause of the collapse was known and the collapse witnessed and there was no other evidence for explosives?

Are all crashed aircraft tested for explosives?

Are you claiming that witnesses weren't questioned as part of the investigations?

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Who did the models? Do they agree with experiment?

An experiment similar to the one I did.
Shear Lag Effects in Steel Tension Members - ResearchGate
ResearchGate › publication › 265225286.

 

[FalseFlag]

Oh, look, another fire.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2016-05/31/c_135402354.htm

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2016-05/31/c_135402460.htm

It didn't collapse. Just sayin'.

 

[ProBonoShill]

Oh, look, another fire.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2016-05/31/c_135402354.htm

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2016-05/31/c_135402460.htm

It didn't collapse. Just sayin'.

And?

 

[Mark F]

Oh, look, another fire.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2016-05/31/c_135402354.htm

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2016-05/31/c_135402460.htm

It didn't collapse. Just sayin'.

Obviously it wasn't hit by a plane.

 

[FalseFlag]

Obviously it wasn't hit by a plane.

...or owned by Larry Silverstein.

 

[ProBonoShill]

...or owned by Larry Silverstein.

or located in New York

or Not fought by firefighters

or weren't hit by a massive jumbo jet

or didn't have their fire suppressant systems compromised.

or weren't damaged by another larger building collapsing around them

or... maybe the lurkers can help me finish, I'm getting bored.

 

[FalseFlag]

or located in New York.

Or brought down by CD.

 

[BStrong]

Oh, look, another fire.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2016-05/31/c_135402354.htm

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2016-05/31/c_135402460.htm

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[DGM]

Or brought down by CD.

wait.............what building was brought down by CD?

There's no evidence any on 9/11 were or reason to think so.

 

[ProBonoShill]

Or brought down by CD.

Or brought down by the invisible unicorn with moonbeams shooting out of his ass.

 

[ozeco41]

Or brought down by the invisible unicorn with moonbeams shooting out of his ass.

Or brought down by Santa's Custard.

Given that my "Santa's Custard Hypothesis":
1) Is supported by far better reasoning than most truther claims; AND
2) It has NEVER been falsified or rebutted.





(And - interesting point - IIRC members of this and other forums determined that the available energy from custard is more than from thermXte.)

 

[ProBonoShill]

Or brought down by Santa's Custard.

Given that my "Santa's Custard Hypothesis":
1) Is supported by far better reasoning than most truther claims; AND
2) It has NEVER been falsified or rebutted.





(And - interesting point - IIRC members of this and other forums determined that the available energy from custard is more than from thermXte.)

 

[FalseFlag]

Have at it. The collapse is well understood by the building and engineering world.

What part of it? The initiation of the collapse or the total collapse? How can people understand the latter if there was never an official investigation into it?

Hmmmmmm?

 

[FalseFlag]

What point? It was outside their mandate and frankly irrelevant to their task.

Why was it irrelevant? Is it because you don't like the implications of what was observed?

 

[FalseFlag]

Who said there wasn't. There's been a couple math models done. All show enough energy for the collapse to continue to completion.

Where? Were they done by NIST? Was the data for these models released? Has anyone done any experiments to prove the models and conclusions are accurate?

 

[FalseFlag]

No Truther would ever trust an expert.

Show me a credible expert, and let's see.